Are you for or against gun control?

Doer said:
Wake up. That was 3/5 better than ANYONE else. The Brits dumped slaves into the Colonies. There was a world wide British Slave Trade until 1803. Then the Navy turned on it's own traders.

We rebelled, fought and got rid of Slavery, but, unlike the British we never transported. We rebelled to straighten that Crown bullshit once and for all, for us.
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dude they didn't have to transport because they made the children of slave's slaves. Yes some did fight against slavery, but we also had others who fought for it. Lazy no good evil fuckers
 
NoDrama said:
Jesus never said a bad word about slavery either. I wonder if he was raping any of them?

The bible tells slaves to be obedient to their masters.

The Catholic church not only condoned slavery, but owned a number of slaves.

I wonder if the priests were raping the altar boys on Sundays and raping the slaves on Saturdays?
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The very reason why I choose to be agnostic. The shit they try to teach is bullshit. The bible is only a tool for slavery and controlling the masses.
 
londonfog said:
The very reason why I choose to be agnostic. The shit they try to teach is bullshit. The bible is only a tool for slavery and controlling the masses.
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??? You certainly jump to extremes fast.

Yes the bible can be used as a tool. Does that make the bible inherently bad? Or the people who are weilding it?
 
Dodging your own point. You said the founders were fucked up because Jefferson wanted slaves to have 3/5 of a vote.

I said that was 3/5 more than women. You blame the Founders for slaves and it was only the British to blame.
 
Flaming Pie said:
??? You certainly jump to extremes fast.

Yes the bible can be used as a tool. Does that make the bible inherently bad? Or the people who are weilding it?
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the bible is nothing but a tool of conquest

And Jesus, if he existed, was not said to say much.
23 parable or something and then about 20 one liners that don't seem in place with the rest of the lessons of the later Church.

I and my father are one
in his house, many mansion
etc

Almost all of the new T, is what was said about this supposed fellow.

All the gushing from the later Church, is from John and Paul and Peter.

For god so loved the world....John hozannaed.
 
If anything the founders were leaning towards more equality for ALL men with the 3/5 count to votes. It was a bold move.

It takes time to change the thinking of men.
 
I think it is ironic, that in a thread about gun control ( a tool ) people can judge an inanimate object as evil. Instead of the person who weilds it.
 
Doer said:
Dodging your own point. You said the founders were fucked up because Jefferson wanted slaves to have 3/5 of a vote.

I said that was 3/5 more than women. You blame the Founders for slaves and it was only the British to blame.
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I say the founders are frauds because they wanted freedom to live free, but could not let others do the same. If you can't include all of mankind in your quest for true freedom then FUCK YOU !!!!
 
You really need to try to put yourself in the times. They were doing more for slaves than any other country at the time.

It isn't all or nothing. One step at a time.
 
londonfog said:
I say the founders are frauds because they wanted freedom to live free, but could not let others do the same. If you can't include all of mankind in your quest for true freedom then FUCK YOU !!!!
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No you do the best for your time, and though you are in a real minority on this, in other countries you can't even know or say.

The founders were extremely far sighted for the time an the main thing is they set up a system that evolves and grows but is managed by US>


If the Founders were frauds then system is a fraud and you could move to Canada on those grounds.
 
Flaming Pie said:
You really need to try to put yourself in the times. They were doing more for slaves than any other country at the time.

It isn't all or nothing. One step at a time.
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dude are you crazy ??? How can you do more for people by making them slaves ??? I guess you one of those
 
Doer said:
No you do the best for your time, and though you are in a real minority on this, in other countries you can't even know or say.

The founders were extremely far sighted for the time an the main thing is they set up a system that evolves and grows but is managed by US>


If the Founders were frauds then system is a fraud and you could move to Canada on those grounds.
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Or I can stay and make it better, which we are doing in today's time. A lot of shit those bullshitting founders did we are now changing... hence the word "amendments"
 
londonfog said:
dude are you crazy ??? How can you do more for people by making them slaves ??? I guess you one of those
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Now you are lost. The British are slavers. But, the making of slaves was an Arab conquest thing in Africa. Brits bought them and brought them here.

You are a Canadian Subject, right? Just spoofing us? No. Then stop acting that way?
 
Doer said:
the bible is nothing but a tool of conquest

And Jesus, if he existed, was not said to say much.
23 parable or something and then about 20 one liners that don't seem in place with the rest of the lessons of the later Church.

I and my father are one
in his house, many mansion
etc

Almost all of the new T, is what was said about this supposed fellow.

All the gushing from the later Church, is from John and Paul and Peter.

For god so loved the world....John hozannaed.
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I'm not really sure what you are trying to say.

The bible can be used for good or evil things. Depending on the heart of the man weilding it.
 
londonfog said:
Or I can stay and make it better, which we are doing in today's time. A lot of shit those bullshitting founders did we are now changing... hence the word "amendments"
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Almost all those amendments were included in the Founding. Get some civics, please.
 
Wow. Are you raging on roids or something? Did you not take history in school?

How can you not know it was the founders who put the amendment system in place? That is just straight up stupid.
 
Doer said:
Now you are lost. The British are slavers. But, the making of slaves was an Arab conquest thing in Africa. Brits bought them and brought them here.

You are a Canadian Subject, right? Just spoofing us+ No. Then stop acting that way.
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Dude now I'm really think you are full of shit. Brits prohibited the international slave trade in 1808. The America south took that shit to a whole new level. Britain also passedthe Slavery Abolition Act of 1833whilst the American south was kicking it into high gear.
 
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