Abortion is now illegal in the United States

canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
I wouldn't be much of a punching bag cause I'm not against abortion, just don't want to be forced to pay for it.
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No, you are not as much fun as you could be here. Tell you what - I don't have to pay for religious icons in public places, I don't have to pay for religious books or prayer in school or religious indoctrination like creationism and you don't have to pay for abortions - deal?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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would a miscarriage be involuntary manslaughter?

I see how well prohibition works and think we'd go back to the days of coat hangers and back alley abortions. It wouldn't stop very many but would definitely cause a HUGE increase in risk.

I hate abortion and would never consider it for myself but I feel I understand human nature enough to realize prohibition of abortion would be deadly for some. The ones that bother me most are the women that have had 5 to 10 abortions, using it like birth control. I'd actually be for a mandatory IUD or that birth control arm insertion that lasts 5 years. If you had to wait 5 years before having another pregnancy abortions would go way down and everyone wins.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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canndo said:
No, you are not as much fun as you could be here. Tell you what - I don't have to pay for religious icons in public places, I don't have to pay for religious books or prayer in school or religious indoctrination like creationism and you don't have to pay for abortions - deal?
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so you will give up forcing me to pay for abortions, and you will continue to not pay for the banned prayers in public schools, the prohibited religious works in school libraries (except the koran, bagvad gita, and other "good" non christian non jew religious texts) and you dont have to pay for the illegal teaching of creationism/intelligent design/jeebus did it "theories"

sounds like a compromise designed by a liberal. you get everything you want, all religions are still illegal in public discourse (unless they are the "good" religions like mohammedanism then they need defending), and you just need to find a new source of funding for free abortions on demand, perhaps some "sosh-security" money that might be wasted on old people who tend to vote for republicans anyway.
 
canndo

canndo

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ginwilly said:
would a miscarriage be involuntary manslaughter?

I see how well prohibition works and think we'd go back to the days of coat hangers and back alley abortions. It wouldn't stop very many but would definitely cause a HUGE increase in risk.

I hate abortion and would never consider it for myself but I feel I understand human nature enough to realize prohibition of abortion would be deadly for some. The ones that bother me most are the women that have had 5 to 10 abortions, using it like birth control. I'd actually be for a mandatory IUD or that birth control arm insertion that lasts 5 years. If you had to wait 5 years before having another pregnancy abortions would go way down and everyone wins.
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I don't think that miscarriage would be considered involunary manslaughter unless it could be proven that the mother was negligent. But of course each and every case would have to be proven. Abortions constitute a significant number of all conceptions and so women would have to be watched or monitored in one way or another. All miscarriages, due to the number of abotions presently being performed" would be suspect.
 
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ChesusRice

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I got a better scenario
Romney gets elected
All you water carrying right wingers get hurt

Too late
your fucked
But they dont care becuase Romney and his cronys got theirs
LOL
you fucked up!!
 
canndo

canndo

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Of course there will be a percentage of all those born that the mother will keep. Another percentage will can be put up for adoption but what about that? The mother may not have the resources to keep the child, and so will need some sort of aid. If she does not get that aid she may well be unable to care for the child in a suitable way, and that child will be placed in a foster home. I have done the figures and they don't look too good but unless someone challenges me, lets be real round with the numbers. Let's say that there is no program to help the mother but a 100,000 per year need no further assistance. We now have a half a million unwanted babies each year. The rest, even if they are put up for adoption may have to stay in either foster homes or orphan homes. A percentage of them will be adopted each year from those homes but as the child grows older the percentage drops, so we can say that these services collect 400,000 new children each year. Now extend that out for 18 years, after which the first of them are adults and can make their way on their own. On the 18th year you have 7.2 million children under government care, perpetualy so for so long as women do not change their evil ways.

Even if they do, that figure will persist for many years. Most often it is those who least like big government programs that are for personhood. Yet this would be the biggest single government welfare program there is, instituted by those who believe they have a moral obligation to assure that each embryo be treated as a person.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
I got a better scenario
Romney gets elected
All you water carrying right wingers get hurt

Too late
your fucked
But they dont care becuase Romney and his cronys got theirs
LOL
you fucked up!!
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OR:

Obama re-elected.
he continues to support waterboarding of prisoners
guantanamo bay prison stays open for business
afghanistan war continues indefinately
economy continues to shrink
unemployment continues to rise
more drone strikes
drones used to spy on american citizens
all wires are tapped so no wire taps are needed any more
all states must submit to the controlled substances act
all pot farmers arrested
a doobie now gets you 25-life
more special interests in washington
more lobbyists in the whitehouse
bloomberg appointed food czar
soylent green the new official sanctioned food source
Soma use becomes mandatory for all citizens
we adopt china's 1 child policiy (to fight global warming of course)
mandatory abortions
progressives finally realize they are living in a george orwell novel.
progressives finally realize george orwell was warning against the progressives own agenda.
progressives now become conservatives
all opposition parties and dissent banned by new president rahm emanuel
rahm emanuel declared president for life in nearly unanimous vote
all no voters are liquidated
 
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ChesusRice

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Dr Kynes said:
OR:

Obama re-elected.
he continues to support waterboarding of prisoners
Who has been waterboarded since he came into office
guantanamo bay prison stays open for business
he tried to close it
afghanistan war continues indefinately
Timetable for withdrawal alread in action
economy continues to shrink
Its expanding dont be a dunce or worse dishonest
unemployment continues to rise
Show me a graph for the last 3 years that supports your claim
more drone strikes
yeah I support that
drones used to spy on american citizens
Not like the camera networks already in place
all wires are tapped so no wire taps are needed any more
Dont worry if you dont deal drugs or are a terrorist
all states must submit to the controlled substances act
They already do
all pot farmers arrested
Tell that to all the collectives that open every month
a doobie now gets you 25-life
Thats why most place are decriminalizing
more special interests in washington
more lobbyists in the whitehouse
bloomberg appointed food czar
soylent green the new official sanctioned food source
Soma use becomes mandatory for all citizens
we adopt china's 1 child policiy (to fight global warming of course)
mandatory abortions
progressives finally realize they are living in a george orwell novel.
progressives finally realize george orwell was warning against the progressives own agenda.
progressives now become conservatives
all opposition parties and dissent banned by new president rahm emanuel
rahm emanuel declared president for life in nearly unanimous vote
all no voters are liquidated
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I got bored of replying I just got home from a full day of work and didnt feel like responding to more bullshit
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
OR:

Obama re-elected.
he continues to support waterboarding of prisoners
guantanamo bay prison stays open for business
afghanistan war continues indefinately
economy continues to shrink
unemployment continues to rise
more drone strikes
drones used to spy on american citizens
all wires are tapped so no wire taps are needed any more
all states must submit to the controlled substances act
all pot farmers arrested
a doobie now gets you 25-life
more special interests in washington
more lobbyists in the whitehouse
bloomberg appointed food czar
soylent green the new official sanctioned food source
Soma use becomes mandatory for all citizens
we adopt china's 1 child policiy (to fight global warming of course)
mandatory abortions
progressives finally realize they are living in a george orwell novel.
progressives finally realize george orwell was warning against the progressives own agenda.
progressives now become conservatives
all opposition parties and dissent banned by new president rahm emanuel
rahm emanuel declared president for life in nearly unanimous vote
all no voters are liquidated
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Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
I got bored of replying I just got home from a full day of work and didnt feel like responding to more bullshit
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if we are going to embrace absurd notions of what will happen when romney becomes el presidente por vivo then why not embrace the crazy if obama become il duce for a second term?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
if we are going to embrace absurd notions of what will happen when romney becomes el presidente por vivo then why not embrace the crazy if obama become il duce for a second term?
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except with the senate, personhood is entirely possible. remember, romney picks scotus too.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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UncleBuck said:
except with the senate, personhood is entirely possible. remember, romney picks scotus too.
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and the senate has to approve them. you think any really nutty fucker will squeeze past Harry "The Littlest Marxist" Reid? fuck you lefties have the american bar association operating as a secret unelected unappointed unconstitutional 4th branch of government passing judgement on every candidate before they can even come up for senate confirmation.

all the lefty cries of the coming apocalypse should romney become president and appoint somebody who opposes abortion to the court is just crazy fearmoingering, and yet my commnets on the dire nature of our country's fiscal mismanaagement by BOTH sides propts you to post images of chicken little.

that is hypocrisy
 
desert dude

desert dude

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Dr Kynes said:
because poor people are always criminals?

dont be a douche.
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No, because there is a pretty good correlation between abortion rates and the plunging crime rates, hence it seems likely that the inverse would also be correlated. Watch, or read, Freakonomics.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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UncleBuck said:
lol, desert dude tried using "code". busted.
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Almost, we have had this "code talk" discussion before. Why do all of you progressives quiver like an antenna in a windstorm and reach for your very own secret decoder rings in every discussion?

I said exactly what I meant, no double-secret thesaurus necessary.
 
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ChesusRice

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desert dude said:
Almost, we have had this "code talk" discussion before. Why do all of you progressives quiver like an antenna in a windstorm and reach for your very own secret decoder rings in every discussion?

I said exactly what I meant, no double-secret thesaurus necessary.
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Ok then
Why is being a "community organizer" used by you as a term of derision?
 
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