TimBar
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Democrat, republican, independent...just get Dangerous Donny out....
72% of Democrats Say Opposing Trump Isn't Enough, Want Congressional Candidates to Push Progressive
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Padawanbater2
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And he still would have lost
Padawanbater2
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More independents support Sanders than Pelosi, and more independents support pushing a progressive message than a moderate one to win
tangerinegreen555
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And you say that based on what?
Certainly not facts. He wouldn't have won Pa. He was never popular here.
tangerinegreen555
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And what % of independents support Trump?
Your progressive dreams are shit if you can't get some R votes. And from what I see, they still yell 'communist' a lot.
Doesn't matter if they're right or wrong, only how they vote.
Padawanbater2
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Based on poll numbers prior to the election. Sanders polled consistently ~10% above Trump. Clinton polled within the margin of error.
Sanders has only increased in popularity since then
Padawanbater2
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Not interested in entertaining speculation. More independents support Sanders than Clinton, that's for sure.
Next post present verifiable facts absent opinions
tangerinegreen555
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Sanders wasn't running. JFK would beat Trump too. So would FDR, Reagan, LincoIn, Washington, pretty much anybody in a silly poll.
Hillary had 3 million more votes, remember.
Your polls don't seat a president.
tangerinegreen555
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Your polls are opinions, fast brain.
travisw
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That's not even close to being true.
As a stay at home polling expert, you'd think you'd know, Biden is the guy polling well these days.
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/joe-biden-favorable-rating
Joe Biden: So hot right now
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/22/politics/biden-poll-analysis/index.html
Joe Biden more popular than Oprah Winfrey and other Democrat candidates for 2020 election, poll shows
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...20-us-election-white-house-poll-a8154991.html
tangerinegreen555
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That's not even close to being true.
As a stay at home polling expert, you'd think you'd know, Biden is the guy polling well these days.
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/joe-biden-favorable-rating
Joe Biden: So hot right now
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/22/politics/biden-poll-analysis/index.html
Joe Biden more popular than Oprah Winfrey and other Democrat candidates for 2020 election, poll shows
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...20-us-election-white-house-poll-a8154991.html
Biden if far more likable, appealing and electable.
Padawanbater2
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You believe that because you're not actually a progressive, you're a moderate
That's the same reason you oppose Sanders policy positions
You guys are pretending to be progressives while supporting moderates even though the evidence shows holding a moderate position loses elections. Can't really figure it out, maybe you can help?
Why pretend to be progressive while supporting moderate candidates and moderate positions? Why support moderate positions when they lost more than 1,000 seats across the country under Obama?
tangerinegreen555
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Fuck your terminology.
I'm a progressive.
You're a member of the Bernie Babies Lunatic Fringe. Get that straight already you lunatic bunch of word thieves.
Padawanbater2
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You're not a progressive if you support moderate policies for the sake of compromise with an insane, corrupt party
That's the opposite of progressive
tangerinegreen555
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That's your distorted opinion. The opposite of progressives is Trump.
And you do a lot to add defacto support..
You ever consider a job on a Russian troll farm? They sew turmoil as well as your crew of crybabies.
Padawanbater2
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No, that's actually a fact. You can't be a progressive while supporting moderate policy positions.
Why are you so ashamed to support moderate values over progressive ones? It seems like both you and Fogdog like to claim to be actual progressives while espousing moderate policy positions and supporting moderate candidates over progressives ones citing that conservative voters would be more open to voting for Republican light Democratic candidates than actual left wing ones. While at the same time condemning progressives for trying to reach common ground with conservatives.
Just stop pretending. You guys are Democratic moderates who support moderate positions and compromising with insane Republicans for the sake of compromise.
We can all see right through it and it makes you look weak
tangerinegreen555
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Bullshit.
Bernie wouldn't get one fucking thing through congress and You know it.
You must literally love polarization.
Go ask about that job at the Russian troll farm. Right up your alley.
And we all know what makes you look weak. You think You could ever run for public office with those pics in your history? Doubt it. Women vote too.
UncleBuck
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sanders is running in third place with 13% right now
Fogdog
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Nope
The Senators from my state are all rated as reliable progressives. Merkely is rated with a higher score than Saint Sanders. Peter DeFazio, my rep is also a reliable progressive.
https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=crucial-lifetime&order=down&party=
Of the 48 Senators who are Democrats, only 14 are rated with a C or lower score according to how they voted.
That's VOTED progressive issues more than 80% of the time. VOTED, not what you believe. 34 out of 48 Senators are rated as reliably voting for issues important to progressives.
Oh, and Nancy Pelosi? On crucial progressive issues, in her time in the House, she's voted progressive 93% of the time.
Feinstein, on crucial progressive issues, she's voted progressive 79% lifetime and 88% last year.
Republicans? Every single God Damn one of them are rated F.
Congressional record doesn't lie. You talk out your ass.
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Sir Napsalot
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That's some pretty puffed-up shit coming from the likes of you
