250w HPS Club And Help Guide

hi all! subscribed. placing an order for a 250w HPS after the weekend. so happy to have found thi thread! it could help me in my final choice of what light to buy and from where.
i ofcoure do not want to over spend, but also dont want a piece of chit. i am going to build a DIY cool tube like in this link http://www.gardenscure.com/420/lighting/80835-vernonsupremes-cool-tube-construction.html it is basicly a glass Bake-a-Round pyrex tube with the light inside it. anybody running this? if so what 250w hps did you buy to run this way?
my grow space is small, 30"x16"x 52".
here is the light and ballast i was looking at http://www.insidesun.com/1f59614e9a5c9ca3451f877b573ad87d.item its cheap, i know but is it insufficiant? i see a bunch of bulbs 2 choose from is there a particular bulb i should be looking to get?
hope i didnt lay 2 many quetions at once. any suggestionss would be awesome.
have a great fourth ery1

zechbro said:

alterewd that looks sicks... there so devaloped for 5 weeks... when do you think they will be done? is it soil or hydro?

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Subcool, the breeder of these beauties, says they'll be done in 7 weeks. When I was browsing hempdepot the Third Dimension really stood out to me so I got them. That was a while back when I first started, I did three bagseed grows for practice and then started 3 third dimension. All 3 turned out to be female. I vegged them for 8 weeks, at 7 weeks I took clones of all three, named the original three 3d1, 3d2, and 3d3. The 3d1 is by far the best cloner with a 100% success rate with 3d2 running close behind with about 90%. 3d3, the tallest and most indica dominant, didnt fair so well with only a 50% success rate cloning. So after 8 weeks of veg under 8 26w blue spectrum cfls and 5 weeks and 4 days of flower under a 250w hps with homemade reflector, two 45w led panels, three blue to one red bulb ratio, and two 10.0 uvb 20w flouro tubes, this is where I'm at. Its a soil grow using miracle grow organic choice soil with lime and extra perlite in 1 gallon pots for veg and when I trasnplanted into 4 gallon pots I used miracle grow african violet soil ane added lime, perlite, bloodmeal, and epsom salt. For veg I used miracle grow all purpose liquid concentrate at 1/4 strength of what the instructions said, I'll probably make it slightly stronger next time. For flower I've been using african violet water soluble plant food. I'll be honest, I plucked a lil nasty bud and let it dry for three days. That was three days ago, today I blazed that shit in a bowl. I stayed stoned right nicely for about three hours and then started gettin sleepy so I took out the rest. I'm feelin good.

MostlyCrazy said:

Altered, Those are some dank buds! Was looking at that strain too and you're one hell of a ginnea pig! LOL!

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Thanks crazy. I didnt know it at the time I bought them since I was just starting to learn about growing but this third dimension is something that only subcool himself seems to know about. Nobody else I've heard from on this site has heard of these little gems. Check this out https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/189763-alphabetical-cannabis-thread-3.html . I kept bugging subcool to give me more info on 3d and finally he posted this. I'm definitely gonna get some of his jacks cleaner. I really dont mind being the one to experiment with this one, ya know?

AlteredBeast said:

Thanks crazy. I didnt know it at the time I bought them since I was just starting to learn about growing but this third dimension is something that only subcool himself seems to know about. Nobody else I've heard from on this site has heard of these little gems. Check this out https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/189763-alphabetical-cannabis-thread-3.html . I kept bugging subcool to give me more info on 3d and finally he posted this. I'm definitely gonna get some of his jacks cleaner. I really dont mind being the one to experiment with this one, ya know?

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Hempdepot for more info on TGA beans lol, at least that's where I go , but I'll definitely check that link out. Subcool is definitely a good grower and his cow Bogart is the cutest ever.

MostlyCraZy
Ya know i thought I may have a bug problem too both the issue of; inside cupboard lighting (Out doors – in a shed) and back out into natural sunlight as well as lights on out doors but what I do there is combine bug light & 25w mini florescent bulbs. Just enough light to keep it from flowering. I switch off and put 2 directional reflector florescent 100w bulbs and they love it! Pretty low tech growing and lots of testing of theory going on here …. Well ok “I’m killin’ lots of stuff over there but I’m havin’ some pretty dumb luck over there with that technique” Kind of growing I guess.
“If I can’t learn something, it’s not worth doing!” No ya can’t use that....

Later

AB,

Very good info on the third dimension. It just swung to the top of "to get" list. Gotta love subcools info and technique. It make me envious. It also keeps my driv alive to learn more and start breeding after I get some experience with a variety of strains. So far the LSD is defiietly on my list and I have high hopes for some RP Purple Wreck. A little skunk, a little trainwreck, some urkel and subcools stuffs sound like a good goal at this point.

70's.

Glad to hear it's working out! Low tech is ok and sometimes works better. Maybe you just keep moving it so much the bugs don't have time to find it! Poor liitle scout bug goes out and finds your stuff and goes back to tell the others and they come and call him a liar! Then he finds it again and goes back to tell them and they follow him again and it's not there again. Little bug gets demoted to worker bug and it's all your fault!

MostlyCrazy said:

AB,




Maybe you just keep moving it so much the bugs don't have time to find it! Poor liitle scout bug goes out and finds your stuff and goes back to tell the others and they come and call him a liar! Then he finds it again and goes back to tell them and they follow him again and it's not there again. Little bug gets demoted to worker bug and it's all your fault!

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Now there is a good imagination. LMAO.

ight fellas ive had my babys in flowering for 6 days, seems to be doin ok, still no cam. tho...the tips on the blades of the leaves are curling up though, what you think the prob. may be, i know its hard to tell witout a picture...also the leaves are starting to get a lil bit crystal lookin like possible trics.? how much should i water?

anyone have a power cord for a digital ballast from HTGsupply. they sent me the light without one. i havent called them about it untill now 3 months later so they might not give me one idk.

shit i would call em, if they sent it witout one they did, they try to give u shit just tell em ur sendin it back an want ur money back then they will prob. say how bout we just send u a cord lol..more then likely theyll send u one...but g'luck..

Cyproz said:

anyone have a power cord for a digital ballast from HTGsupply. they sent me the light without one. i havent called them about it untill now 3 months later so they might not give me one idk.

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You might be able to get away with buying a cord for a Desktop PC power supply, depending on what the input looks like on the digital ballast, I'm pretty sure they use the same type of cord.

Skryptz said:

ight fellas ive had my babys in flowering for 6 days, seems to be doin ok, still no cam. tho...the tips on the blades of the leaves are curling up though, what you think the prob. may be, i know its hard to tell witout a picture...also the leaves are starting to get a lil bit crystal lookin like possible trics.? how much should i water?

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Lol and ladies....

Heat stress will do that to leaves as well as nutrient burn. If the leaves don't look burned and brown and crispy then it's probably heat stress. What are your temps in your grow area?

If it's the leaves closer to the flowers those are more than likely trichomes.

I don't know how the watering schedule is for hydro, but I know for soil you check weight, or dig about an inch or so down from top soil, if it's dry more than likely you have to water, I also check the holes on the bottom sides to make sure that soil is somewhat dry.

Hope this helps.

Sorry doob i should say that because the ladies been the most help so far lol!!..my light was a lil to low i think, it was about 6 inchs above the top of the plants. i raised it to about 12-13 inchs above ladies, i have no clue, but room temp. i keep at 70-72, u def. feel a heat diff. stickin ur hand in..since raisin the light its cooled a lil bit but still need to build my box because of aroma ..i have a house fan which has 2 fans on it in there blowin, i stik my finger in an its damp, i give about a half a gallon every time i waterif its a lil brown on top of the soil, if i start with MG Bloom Booster Nuts. then switch to foxfarm nuts. when i get them which is about 3 weeks, should i just stick with MG? or flush an start with foxfarm? im gettn the tiger bloom trio pack...sry so long....also growin in soil..

Any pix of your harvest Grazzmon?

Hope all the clubbers had a safe 4th
Just smoked a nug of the White Berry
And now i cant get off the couch

was great..fireworks on the beach! i wish i had a big fat bud i just ran out of shiskaberry from my dealer ...question tho....with my 250 watt in my closet it has mayb 1/16 light leak around the edges..think that hurt me?

Skryptz said:

was great..fireworks on the beach! i wish i had a big fat bud i just ran out of shiskaberry from my dealer ...question tho....with my 250 watt in my closet it has mayb 1/16 light leak around the edges..think that hurt me?

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I do not think that will be a issue

Get some weather stripping and seal up the leak... It is real easy and you will have less of a chance of hermie

word is it the light leakage out when the lights are on or the light leakage in when the lights are off that hurts it?

Skryptz said:

word is it the light leakage out when the lights are on or the light leakage in when the lights are off that hurts it?

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I would think that light leaking out could be a security issue, and light leaking in can cause hermies so thats an issue too. I'd just fix the leak.