20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

collective gardener

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The Laughganis were getting way too crowded in the veg room floor. Since it will be over a week until they go into bloom, I decided to take the breeders advice and do a major thin down od the outside of the plant. The breeder of this strain advises to remove all fan leaves extending outside the shoots approx 1 week before bloom. This enables you to get more plants into a given area, and gives the growing shoots 1 last blast of veg light prior to blooming. He says that while removing all these leaves may slightly affect yield, the additional plants that can be put in the same area more than makes up for this...therefore increasing overall density of buds in a given area. Since I'm new to this strain, and the breeder has 10 years experience with her, I chose to listen to him and do some major trimming.

It took 2 hours, but I'm very happy with the results. Prior to trimming, the plants were very crowded and light was only hitting the top canopy. Now, you'll see nice clean rows with light hitting all the way down the outside of the plants. I know some people NEVER remove healthy fan leaves, but I've done so with good results over the last several years. Anyways, here's the results:

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Before trimming

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After Trimming

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Pretty fat stock for a 2 foot tall plant

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Trimmed plants allow for nice bucket spacing. You can see some light on the floor, telling me that the sides of the plant are getting some nice pre-bloom light.

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The Bubba on the right was going to be our mother. At second thought, we decided we really don't need a dedicated mother. We can just take a couple cuts from the plants before they go into bloom. So, I assigned Helper D the awful task of killing her today. The room she takes up can veg 4 Laughganis. I called him an hour ago and he hadn't done the deed yet. I don't know if he's got the stomach for such a mission. If not, I'll do it tomorrow. I wish I had an outdoor space to plant her in. What can I say; she's doing more harm thatn good. There's no room in the bloom room and we need the space for the plants coming off of the table.
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2 more DWC Bubbas. The one on the left is Rodan (Godzilla fans will recognize the name), and the one on the right is Little Rico.

So, there's the veg room floor. Helper D is transplanting all of these Laughganis to 10 gallon pots today and tomorrow. Then 7 - 10 more days in veg and off to the bloom room. They seemed to have maxed out in the 5 gallon buckets they are in. I saw the rootball on one as I was leaving today. I've never seen so many roots from a 2 foot plant not topped or trained in a 5 gallon bucket. If we end up trying for 4 foot plants, I believe we will have to go into 15 or maybe 20 gallon pots.
 

collective gardener

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I uploaded premature. That hasn't happened since I was a teenager. Here's round 2.
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The larger plants are about 4.5 weeks into bloom. They vegged 10 days longer than the ones almost done, and are in 10 gallon pots, rather than 5's. That 10 days and bigger pots looks to be the difference between a 4 oz plants and an 8 oz plant. All future plants will spend at least 7 days in a 10+ gallon pot prior to blooming. The plants in the 5's really should be watered twice per day. Sometimes we can't get to them and the pot is very light when we water. We're hoping that going to minimum 10 gallons and switching from Sumshine #4 to pure coco will give us enough water retention for once daily watering. If we need to go to 15 gallon pots, we will. In the past, I've mixed in 20% rockwool croutons into Sunshine to hold more water. This is also an option. With 1000 watt lights and 40% - 50% RH, the amount of water used is amazing. This is with the Bubbas. The Laughganis in veg use more water than the Bubbas, so when they go in we'll really have to watch them. I believe that the 5 gallon pots were too small for crop 1 and cost us some yield. It's just all a part of getting this big plant thing figured out.
 

ENDLSCYCLE

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So what brand are these gonna be?????...been looking around now and have seen a couple companies offering some pretty sweet looking lights for a decent price.
 

collective gardener

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Here's some pics of our 2 special plants. Godzilla is our Bubba DWC test. She's been in bloom about 5 days and there is a problem. We put in fresh nutes about 1000ppm, and 3 days later it was 300ppm. The 4 gallons in the bucket just isn't enough to feed this thirsty girl. May have to go the interconnected buckets with a res route.

The other plant is our test Lavander cross we put into bloom about 2.5 weeks ago. The plant is incredible. The density is outstanding. The bud sites are just stacked on top of eachother. The small is kind of a bitter fruity smell. Not the sweet dank of the Kush. It's very powerful for under 3 weeks in bloom. As you walk up to it, you can smell it through the Bubba's quite clearly. The breeder warned us about the smell. I can't even imagine what it will be like in another couple weeks.

We added another 1000 watt light in the bloom room and took out 1 - 600 watt light. I'm in the process of ducting fresh air into the lights to avoid an odor problem. Right now they get supplied from the room and the exhaust goes un-filtered. We are starting to notice odor in the main warehouse area.

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DWC Godzilla a couple days into bloom
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Godzilla

The following are the Lavander cross 2.5 weeks into bloom. We have very high hopes for this strain out yielding the Bubba 2 to 1.
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We added some lights to the bloom room to the area that was originally supposed to be our walkway. Every grow I've done has had this happen.
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Helper D wanted me to show you guys his soil mixing tub. He's so proud.
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That's it for now. The inductive light should be here tomorrow and we'll begin the test on Wed. He sent me the price list and they are way affordable. I'm dying to try the 400 watt version. They clain it has the same growing power of 1800 watts of HID. The paperwork also states that the spectrum is suitable for both veg and bloom. The spectrum graph, if it is true, is the best I've ever seen in a light.
 

Gopedxr

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Pics look amazing man!! What do you think about obama bringing on the heat with the DEA though? Only those with out lawers worry?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
i try not to watch the news it just pisses me off to no end, but whats up with this dea thing?
they turning up the heat?
 

NDO

Member
Agreed, those raids in Montana were absolute garbage...

Been watching the grow for awhile now CG, looks amazing, finally figured out how to subscribe, keep up the amazing job...I know we all really appreciate it...
 

collective gardener

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Pics look amazing man!! What do you think about obama bringing on the heat with the DEA though? Only those with out lawers worry?
That so harshes my mellow. I have 2 lawyers and I worry my ass off. So much so that I sometimes can't even smoke my favorite sativa for fear of some paranoia kicking in.

I grew all my life underground till this grow. At least now there is some protection from the Man. We all have a big bull's eye on our back. The good news is we're a herd of hundreds and the hunter only has one bullet. (relatively). Every single person I know who got busted made a fundamental mistake somewhere down the line. My attorney has stories upon stories of how stupid his clients that got busted were. I have paid him $300/hr on more than one occasion to hear these stories. They make me feel safe.

As far as Montana, running a storefront op is way too dangerous for me. They know where you are. All they have to do is make a case. I figure, with a private collective grow op, first they have to find you, then they still have to make their case.
 

collective gardener

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So, Helper D and I took a drive down to a dispensary to check out their Bubba and Og. Helper D picked up a gram of each one for $28 per gram! I bought Helper D an 1/8th of Super Silver Haze cause he's never tried a Haze. First off, the Bubba is about 5 steps below ours. I was thrilled. This was a fact finding mission and the fact is we were very VERY lucky to have generous commercial growing friends willing to donate their best strains to our collective. Then...this is great...Helper D fires up a bowl of the OG and there's 2 big fuckin ants in the bud! We dig through all the stash and find a dog hair, 3 more ants, and a dash of PM I confirmed with the 60X scope. And, no readily visable crystals. So, this is the competition. I was going to bring them a sample of our Bubba, but now don't even want our stash associated with the place. BTW, this is no Ghetto pot shop...this was in Malibu! $28/gram!
 

dlively11

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I dont know how I missed this but GREAT JOB !!! Man what I would do to have a nice workspace like that !!

8K for vegging wow that is a lot. I have 11K for bloom right now and only 1-600 watt, 15 -55 watt T5s, 2- 35 watt CFL and 2- 50 watt floros. So 12.6 K total. I am doing smaller plants in SOG though so mine dont get over 10-12 inches in veg. FYI epxect to start using about 10K Kilawatt hours per month. Gets expensive really quick ! I havent looked through this much yet but so far but I love what you have done. You did it right from the start.
 
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