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    Intolerance is the real evil

    the problem with making blanket statements like "intolerance is the real evil" is that they inevitably leads to such idiocy as the idea we should be intolerant of intolerance. i'm sure that sounded better in the poster's mind, but its ridiculous nature becomes obvious when it is broken down...
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    Modern Human Evolution and the Gene Pool...

    many other species strive to keep their weaker members alive. any species where there is a bond between parent and offspring holds this potential. the biggest difference between us and those other species is that many of our societies actually force their stronger, faster and wiser members to...
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    How am I supposed to know

    we all lie to ourselves. the only alternative is a short and bitter life.
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    How am I supposed to know

    we choose our beliefs based on our own experiences, on our likes and dislikes. if there is a truth you must find it for yourself and asking others is a sure fire way to be led astray. if there is no truth then it really doesn't matter which path you choose and you might as well just do what...
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    Unprecedented Move! Norway Abolishes State Church

    but the means by which we achieve our ends are as important as the ends themselves. take for instance two societies, both with healthy, well fed, well housed and productive populations. if one people had been free to choose how they got to that state and the other had been forced to that point...
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    Unprecedented Move! Norway Abolishes State Church

    the difference is that one is based on the traditions of the people themselves and the other is a matter of laws enforced by the state. that "formal acknowledgement" makes all the difference in the world. no matter how close we may get, the people and the state are not the same thing. "the...
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    Unprecedented Move! Norway Abolishes State Church

    do we need a lesson in the basics of any society? look back to the origins of this nation and you will find predominantly christian ideology. nearly 80% of this country identifies itself as christian. is it any wonder that the natural bias should be toward christianity? what should also be...
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    Unprecedented Move! Norway Abolishes State Church

    by the very definition, everything is a conspiracy. only our most private personal moments can be considered to be completely devoid of interaction with others and even those may be subject to outside influences. now let's separate the conspiracies of individuals from those of organizations...
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    You ever notice...

    of course it is, as is each instance where you insist on equating religious faith with ignorance. religion, like politics and so much of our social interaction, attempts to give each man what he desires. it gives the ignorant man an excuse for his ignorance, the vengeful man a target for his...
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    Unprecedented Move! Norway Abolishes State Church

    the ego of some people is amazing. they see only what they want and insist that anything that doesn't go along with their narrow view of the world must be conspiracy. de facto state sponsored religion? since when has the u.s. government actually sponsored any religion? the favoritism shown...
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    You ever notice...

    considering the ignorance shown in the OP, are we supposed to see atheism as requiring ignorance? a vast segment of the world's population revels in its ignorance and stupidity and a majority of our population embraces some religion, that a huge number of the religious should be ignorant...
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    You ever notice...

    it's so nice to see that pad is still peddling his same line of crap in my absence. we all get it, pad. religion is an abomination and its followers are all idiots. only enlightened people like you could possibly enjoy the sort of intellect needed to succeed in the modern world. what is...
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    compassionate progressive puts uppity clerk in her place

    i came back to see what reactions there might be in this thread and, to be quite honest, i could only stomach a couple of pages. it's the same old thing, liberal twits finding any excuse to justify the crude behavior of their kind and always attempting to paint the opposition in the worst...
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    compassionate progressive puts uppity clerk in her place

    though i seldom post here any more, i saw this and had a small chuckle and i knew i had to post something. i've kind of missed these board. the above quote represents one of the primary components of the progressive ideology. that the writer felt fully justified in publicly cussing out...
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    OMG Elizabeth Warren is such a socialist

    it seems rather funny that "the rest of us" paid to educate the workers, build the roads and protect society, but there's no mention in there of the simple fact that the successful businessman has also paid in on all those things already. all he has done is taken the advantages that we have all...
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    Can't we all get along?

    is it really so difficult to understand that not everyone sees things in the same way? despite all the rhetoric to the contrary, no one wants to see people starving or enslaved to corporate or governmental masters. these things are merely possible outcomes of living in our free society. the...
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    Can't we all get along?

    of course we can't get along. we can be forced to appear to get along, but even that is only temporary. i thought everyone would have figured this out by now. somebody always wants what someone else has, there's always someone who feels their way of doing things is better than the other guy...
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    Big Brother Gives Infraction For Believing Homosexuality Is Wrong

    you couldn't be more wrong. i see no "nobility" in either position. in fact, i make no moral judgement on homosexuality at all. what is at least a bit noble is standing behind your beliefs and advocating them, no matter how outrageously authority or society may wish to punish you for them...
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    Big Brother Gives Infraction For Believing Homosexuality Is Wrong

    i would rather he simply taught the language and the general culture, without indoctrinating them one way or the other. the proper response to this student would have been to simply agree to disagree or, better still, to have ignored the comment altogether, but that sort of thing just isn't...
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    Big Brother Gives Infraction For Believing Homosexuality Is Wrong

    how often is too often? just how many times should we allow the authority of our public school system to tromp on the most basic rights of our children before we acknowledge that there is a problem? we bend over backward to accommodate their peculiarities and we celebrate their differences...
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