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You're missing the point. A shitty grower and the best grower alike will still get increased yield more efficiently with better tools. The cobs are not much more expensive and easy to upgrade as you go. We get you are pretty excited about your 3.3 ounce yield with your mars. You coulda done it...

The cob is actually only 54 watts and spreads as well as the 300w Mars/vipar but with better penetration and increased grams per watt. And your 300w is actually only a 100 true watt.

Where did someone say you cant grow good weed with these products ? What we did say is for not much more $$ you can buy a light that will yield you way more. www.cobshop.net $125 , not sure the price on the optic 1 in U.S dollars but I'm sure it's cheap as well. As I do own...

Maybe get a big power bill ?

3 plants came down, 2 I used just plain PH water and 1 I kept feeding Mollasses . Tough to stay if the Mollasses made any difference in size. The one did in fact weigh more. Not sure about the smoke yet as they are still drying/curing. Was sorta an experiment in flushing keeping using the...

I'm not using the optic yet, but I am using a pretty comparable cob from www.cobshop.net. I can tell you that my one 54 wat cob produces double the flower of my 300w(125 actual watt) viparspectra. The cob's cover 1 plant. But that is all your are getting out of a viparspectra 300 as well. I...

I own 2 vipars, a 900 and a 300. I couldn't agree more with the above posts. I've already upgraded to an autocob from cobshop.net and I am eyeballing the optic one that was mentioned earlier for my next light.

Here is updated pics of them 10 days later for anyone else struggling when to chop. I think I am giving her 5 more days and into the paper bags they go to dry.

From what I've seen for options posted in this tread I would still roll with 4 autocobs from cobshop.net or build your own. You wont fill you 4x4 up this grow but you wont have to replace anything for your next grow and can add another cob after harvest or when you can afford. It puts you right...

Fair enough. I knew when I said 6 plants per 4x4 someone was going to bite me in the ass a lil for that one. BUT !! :D From what I have learned so far more plants don't = more weight. Would you say its fair that you could have got the same weight in that 3x3 with 2 plants in a regular grow...

One of us is out to lunch lol .. I've been following a lot of cob grows and the girls don't seem to like more than 1 cob per plant. In a 4x4 I think you are maxing out at 6 plants in 5 gal pots without over crowding. I concede however I may be off with 6 plants. But I think that would be a...

Maybe I'm confused , but 18 cobs for a 4x4 ? I think you are underestimating cob power. I would think 6, 54 watt cobs in a 4x4 would be maximum plants could handle.

wonder if fullscan19 is confused as hell to how his thread got turned into a civil light discussion :) As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever seen one before.

Do you need to purchase a driver for it still ?

yea thanks onegreenthumb, I was thinking that too. I was advised instead of checking the leaf for trichomes to check the Calyx, No ambers yet.

Yea, that was sort of the point I was trying to make. I was happy to grow great weed and all, but a little part of me wanted to cry on weigh in day . I am a few weeks out on completing my 2nd grow under the autocob and I am sure I will get 2+ zips again. I know I can do better but I think it's...

That would make a pretty awesome set up for under 500 beans .

2 288's I think would smash that and so would 4 autocobs. I think it would take at minimal 4 viparspectra's to cover that as well. A viperspectra 300 will flower 1 plant. My Vs 900 Doesn't even cover my 3x3 effectively. 4 autocobs from www.cobshop.net will run you at that $480 mark. And you...

So from a fairly new grower , this is my take on it. My vipars have grown me some of the best bud I have smoked. (not a VS hater really) Under my V3 300 at $65 US and 120w power I produced It ended up being 1 0z. (new grower remember) Under my 900 at $260 US with 3 plants (week 8 not...

No you are correct. I guess cause I've been fixated lately on collecting cobs. it's just easy for me to calculate 1 plant per cob. And in Canada I'm now going to just be growing 4 plants. And I don't really trust a lot of Sq ft that light co's put out. Edit: just an example, my VS 900 says...