Obamacare punishes smokers...

UncleBuck

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This will be the biggest tax increase on the poor known to man..................imo..............nitro...
your opinion is for shit, dingbat.

healthcare is subsidized up to 400% of poverty. that means a single person making $50k a year is about the cutoff for subsidies.

you should actually read the thing, or at least a summary.
 

UncleBuck

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So I have a question to those who are not working, under employed.. cant afford private insurance work p.t .. from my understand they will be "given" free health care, is this correct? and if so.. since they will be getting Federal Government mandated ins will they test for drug use tobacco and alcohol use?

(not attempting to swing this topic either way )
you're only going to get "free" health care (medicaid) up to about 150% of poverty (or 125%, something like that).

above that on up to 400% of poverty, you are subsidized to the point that your health care insurance can not cost more than X% of your income, X being something like 2-5%. in the end, you will pay less.

no drug testing, either. despite the protestations of certain whiney pussies and sad little fucks like the OP.
 

ASMALLVOICE

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No jailings and the fines will not happen until next year.

Anyone on medicare and food stamps and wica are exempt, so the ones that are freeloaders will not be disturbed one iota.

Sad but True

Peace

Asmallvoice
 

UncleBuck

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Regulation and punishment over freedom.. And you are getting off on it. Twisted isnt it?
the freedom you describe in this case is the freedom of other people to push their costs onto you. costs they incur, mind you, through an expensive and willfully destructive habit.

your right to swing your rusty lawnmower ends at my finely manicured lawn, ya sad little fuck.
 

NLXSK1

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the freedom you describe in this case is the freedom of other people to push their costs onto you. costs they incur, mind you, through an expensive and willfully destructive habit.

your right to swing your rusty lawnmower ends at my finely manicured lawn, ya sad little fuck.
Healthcare is not a right. The government has chosen to confiscate money from me to subsidize healthcare for other people on top of the taxes I already pay for emergency room coverage.

Now they use the excuse that healthcare is universal to compel me to pay fines if I dont choose to do exactly what they want me to do. Smokers are only one of the examples there will be many more to come.
 

ASMALLVOICE

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go ahead and please point out where in the bill this is legislated for. go right ahead. i'll be right here waiting, chicken little.
Dude, chill out, I wasn't making an insidious remark, I was stating what my tax lady showed me on the computer while I had my taxes done last night.

If you are on medicare, or any government assistance like food stamps, wica, you are exempt from fines from not having health insurance. Basically anyone who is in that category. No jailings ever, comprehension UB, comprehension.

Chill UB or I am going to have to punk you out in front of all your adoring fans yet again.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 

UncleBuck

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Healthcare is not a right. The government has chosen to confiscate money from me to subsidize healthcare for other people on top of the taxes I already pay for emergency room coverage.

Now they use the excuse that healthcare is universal to compel me to pay fines if I dont choose to do exactly what they want me to do. Smokers are only one of the examples there will be many more to come.
well, since the PPACA is going to be wildly popular once implemented and will never go away now that obama has his second term, you have a couple of choices.

bitch about it on a pot forum like the sad little fuck you are, or move to canada in protest like all the other dumbasses are threatening to do.

wasn't rush limbaugh supposed to be gone by now?

you sad little fucks remind me of little yapping dogs.
 

UncleBuck

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Dude, chill out, I wasn't making an insidious remark, I was stating what my tax lady showed me on the computer while I had my taxes done last night.

If you are on medicare, or any government assistance like food stamps, wica, you are exempt from fines from not having health insurance. Basically anyone who is in that category.

Chill UB or I am going to have to punk you out in front of all your adoring fans yet again.

Peace

Asmallvoice
show me where it says jail times for not paying the fines, ya little punk bitch.
 

SnakeByte

Active Member
You don't think that private insurance companies haven't been doing this for some time now?
Private companies do worse. You can spend your whole life giving to them and then need them once, and just because they don't want to give the money, they will jump through hoops to do anything they can in order to not write a cheque.

"Sir we know you have cancer treatments to pay for BUT we see here, there is this hospital bill for stitches from an apparent cooking accident that you did not notify us about. Sorry to inform you that this nullifies your coverage (even though you still paid into it AFTER that incident).... Have a nice day, hope we at Loser Insurance have been of great help."

It's sickening.

At least with health care (in Canada at least) It's guaranteed help if you get lung cancer and are a smoker. I pay into it, I better get help when I need it. Otherwise I might as well just keep my goddamn money and open a high interest saving account with low penalty withdrawls.
 

Rob Roy

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the freedom you describe in this case is the freedom of other people to push their costs onto you. costs they incur, mind you, through an expensive and willfully destructive habit.

your right to swing your rusty lawnmower ends at my finely manicured lawn, ya sad little fuck.
...so if a person that swings a rusty lawnmower gets a laceration, other people are responsible for paying to fix the laceration ? Who swings lawn mowers anyway?
 

ASMALLVOICE

Well-Known Member
show me where it says jail times for not paying the fines, ya little punk bitch.
No you ignorant dweeb, I said No jailings (as in ever) and the fines will not start until next year, and that is a fact.

Learn to read and comprehend before ya fall apart.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 

UncleBuck

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No you ignorant dweeb, I said No jailings (as in ever) and the fines will not start until next year, and that is a fact.

Learn to read and comprehend before ya fall apart.

Peace

Asmallvoice
alrighty then.

i was allowing for bad grammar, as i so often see from you.

you might want to tell some of your other righty friends like nitro that there won't be any jail time. they are simply inconsolable.
 

nitro harley

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your opinion is for shit, dingbat.

healthcare is subsidized up to 400% of poverty. that means a single person making $50k a year is about the cutoff for subsidies.

you should actually read the thing, or at least a summary.
Buck I read every word the state sent me....I posted the pic's with the prices.........and there wasn't one word about anything you are talking about in the paper work that I got in the mail......

Maybe you could post a link for the info you talk about..........I would like to read up on free health care...............nitro..
 

UncleBuck

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...so if a person that swings a rusty lawnmower gets a laceration, other people are responsible for paying to fix the laceration ? Who swings lawn mowers anyway?
it happens either way that we pay for these fucks, the PPACA simply dictates that those who can afford to pay for themselves, do. and not pass it onto everyone else.

as far as who swings lawn mowers: LOOK, RANDY! I'M MOWING THE AIR!

 

ASMALLVOICE

Well-Known Member
alrighty then.

i was allowing for bad grammar, as i so often see from you.

you might want to tell some of your other righty friends like nitro that there won't be any jail time. they are simply inconsolable.
No bad grammer, just an epic fail in comprehension on your end, but I forgive you this once, don't let it happen again. Learn from your mistakes.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
well, since the PPACA is going to be wildly popular once implemented and will never go away now that obama has his second term, you have a couple of choices.

bitch about it on a pot forum like the sad little fuck you are, or move to canada in protest like all the other dumbasses are threatening to do.

wasn't rush limbaugh supposed to be gone by now?

you sad little fucks remind me of little yapping dogs.
Is Alex Baldwin living in Canada now?
 
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