Unconventional Organics

Snafu1236 said:
The roots don't absorb the CO2 from the carbonated water...roots breathe O2..however, a disturbance at the root level by way of the carbonation creates a positive effect on the plant...my own theory is it has a positive effect on the physical environment of the roots...but I do not know what that is!

All I know is my plants love it from time to time!

Ps. You can foliar with carbonated water for a minimal CO2 uptake...but I have not seen a great effect by this method.
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A Little hydrogen peroxide will add the O2
 
Digger Dave said:
A Little hydrogen peroxide will add the O2
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Not the best advice for organics I don't think....H2O2 + microbeasties = chaos. The aerobic bacteria may love the extra oxygen boost, but any of the "good" anaerobic bacteria in your soil will be immediately fried...and these are harder to replace than the aerobic bacteria (just water with a nice AACT and you can replenish your aerobic population almost instantly, not necessarily the case with anaerobic).

For an O2 boost I would just say grow in airpots or smartpots...that will give your roots all the oxygen they could ever need :mrgreen:
 
Digger Dave said:
A Little hydrogen peroxide will add the O2
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Yikes! Never would I ever use Hydrogen Peroxide for ANYTHING in my garden, EVER!

You dump that on your plant, your plant dies. No two ways about that.

Please do not give advice for knowledge you do not know, you could seriously hurt someones garden on here with advice like that.

-Snafu
 
Couldn't agree more...I was just trying to say it a bit more subtly haha. Good to keep him in check tho...after that post I went around reading a bunch of his other posts and they were similarly misinformative...gotta watch out for those folks on RIU...its like 90% of the people on here lol.
 
Cann said:
Couldn't agree more...I was just trying to say it a bit more subtly haha. Good to keep him in check tho...after that post I went around reading a bunch of his other posts and they were similarly misinformative...gotta watch out for those folks on RIU...its like 90% of the people on here lol.
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Well I guess I'm just a dumbass dirt farmer, will never post again, but why do I have very good smoke?You know all Cann!
 
pics? and no I do not claim to know all...but I also dont go around telling people things that have no scientific foundation...

you can probably still grow decent flowers using h2o2 in soil, just like you can grow decent flowers using synthetic nutes in soil, but if you want to be truly "organic" you would never put h202 in your soil....ever. please do some research before you tell people things like that though...there are people on here who will take anyones advice as true, and you could've just cost someone their crop
 
Peroxide has however done WORK on any cut that I can remember my mom tending to haha! Killed ALL THE BACTERIA!

Get an exhale C02 bag, hang it up and leave it there...That's gotta be uncontentional...Some say it don't do anything...Some swear by it..I'm on the swearing side just loking at my plants mmm.
It's doing work for me...<$40 for 6 months C02? So easy a cave man could do it
 
does the exhale bag really claim to work for 6 months? That seems a bit farfetched to me...wont the mycelium run out of food before then? Do you have a ppm meter in your room to monitor the CO2 levels?
 
Cann said:
does the exhale bag really claim to work for 6 months? That seems a bit farfetched to me...wont the mycelium run out of food before then? Do you have a ppm meter in your room to monitor the CO2 levels?
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No ppm meter. Just DEEP green plants in my closet. Can't attribute it to anything else really.
I know I have a pretty good soil mix and a okay routine so that helps some too..But I'm still in a closet.
The only thing cooling my 12 CFLs and 2 150w HPS lamps is a small oscillating fan.
I keep the apt. temp around 65 and the closet temp is doesn't get but a few degrees warmer.
Ventilation is what it is. I hung up light blocking curtains on both sides of the door, and a sheet in between so that the door remains wide open, but totally black when I need it to be.
The temperature is an afterthought.

I'm not really worried about if lasts 6 months or not. Their advertising six months says more than enough for the plants life cycle.
If for any reason anyone can't do the tanks, I would suggest you start here because its done the do for me
I'll be buying another one soon. I'd say it was $35 well spent again and again and again and....... :joint:
 
Exhale bags work for 3 months, then die, if it is a fresh bag.

Done a TON of tests on them, as well as Green Pads.

Both work good. Exhale Bag is better and more efficient and cost effective than the greenpads though.

And, I acknowledge your gracefulness, Cann, in your approach. I typically take much the same.

However, when people consistently spread misinformation it should be quickly and swiftly uprooted.

And Digger Dave is just inexperienced, ignorant and a tinge of arrogant for ripping on you, Cann. Anyone who tells me that they have grown quality smoke from using Hydrogen Perozxide dumps as a watering or feeding method is either a liar or a complete f____ing idiot.

I say they are a liar, because Hydrogen Peroxide has done nothing but ruined my grows in the past.

-Snafu
 
And if anyone cares to 'call me out' on anything, please read all of my posts, every single one that I either commented on or created. After you read what I have put here on RIU, then we can have a conversation if you feel I am wrong somewhere in my methods.

And PLEASE, at the very least, read my grow through and through in the signature below before you want to begin attacking my knowledge and experience base; You would be hard pressed to find a more expertly detailed, efficicent all-organic grow on one of the trickiest/pickiest strains available, DJ Short's Blueberry anywhere on the internet. Bold claim? Maybe, but the specific reason why I created that thread was there was not a decent DJ Short Blueberry Journal anywhere to be found.

-Snafu
 
And it's all good bro.
I'm not dumb enough to believe that any one person on here knows the best way to do everything. That's not logical.
You're speaking from your POV like EVERYONE ELSE HERE.

Like I'd be damned to believe that the exhale bag is done after 3 months...I'm 3 months in and the mycium is still growing, so it's still working so far. Got it in October actually, and it says on the bag to throw away in April.
And I also don't know how you'd come across and old bag. The note within said that they "activated" it when shipped.

But I will say it makes you no better than whoever you called an ignorant and arrogant. You don't know him/her/it.
I did learn not to pass judgement no matter who your dealing with. Learned that early
 
Sincerely420 said:
And it's all good bro.
I'm not dumb enough to believe that any one person on here knows the best way to do everything. That's not logical.
You're speaking from your POV like EVERYONE ELSE HERE.

Like I'd be damned to believe that the exhale bag is done after 3 months...I'm 3 months in and the mycium is still growing, so it's still working so far. Got it in October actually, and it says on the bag to throw away in April.
And I also don't know how you'd come across and old bag. The note within said that they "activated" it when shipped.

But I will say it makes you no better than whoever you called an ignorant and arrogant. You don't know him/her/it.
I did learn not to pass judgement no matter who your dealing with. Learned that early
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I only pass judgement on people who tell me to do stupid things that will hurt me, my friends, my family or the things I care for.

And I will gladly and happily call out their wrongs for the whole world to see their fallacy, in the hopes that their misguidance will not hurt others.

For I am not in this for myself, but in this to help spread the truth and knowledge about this beautiful plant!

Truth rules.

-Snafu
 
Sincerely420 said:
And it's all good bro.


Like I'd be damned to believe that the exhale bag is done after 3 months...I'm 3 months in and the mycium is still growing, so it's still working so far. Got it in October actually, and it says on the bag to throw away in April.
And I also don't know how you'd come across and old bag. The note within said that they "activated" it when shipped.
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Oh yeah...I feel this warrants a response since you seemingly think this is a contentious issue with me(its not).

Great! You're mycelium rocks! Have you checked you PPm meter? Because you hit that mark and your CO2 drops. It is as simple as having a meter and reading its levels actively for the entire duration you have your bag, and then for three months after that.

But, going out on a limb here---you do not have a Co2 meter. But.....

The honest company who I never met before said they 'activated' it! They even wrote it on a card!

'Nuf said.

P.S. When was the last time you ever 'activated' a living organism? Life happens whether we want it to or not.


Chaos.


-Snafu
 
No questions asked in regards to the product. I bought it for what it was advertised as an it's done the job.
I don't care how it works or what it's composed of, or what the "honest" company says about it. It works. You've already acknowledged that.

Do I need a ppm meter to grow cannabis with? Is it a necessity? And nah I'm not gonna buy one. I'm not pressed.

I'm glad I don't live in a world where I'm questioning the contents of a decomposing bag..I'm not pressed. It just doesn't matter.


"The honest company who I never met before said they 'activated' it! They even wrote it on a card!"
-How do you get an old bag of exhale? How do you know the bags you got where brand new?...How do you know when the contents were bagged?

All those questions are rhetorical. They don't require an answer.

And it don't matter when or how you pass judgement...You don't know everything. If you did, we wouldn't be having this convo.
But you speak like you do. It's not a fact that after 3months all exhale bags die but yet you say it without a problem...
Its not a fact the buddy is ignorant...That's your opinion...

Calling out wrongs but doing none...I wish i was you :joint:
 
Sincerely420 said:
No questions asked in regards to the product. I bought it for what it was advertised as an it's done the job.
I don't care how it works or what it's composed of, or what the "honest" company says about it. It works. You've already acknowledged that.

Do I need a ppm meter to grow cannabis with? Is it a necessity? And nah I'm not gonna buy one. I'm not pressed.

I'm glad I don't live in a world where I'm questioning the contents of a decomposing bag..I'm not pressed. It just doesn't matter.


"The honest company who I never met before said they 'activated' it! They even wrote it on a card!"
-How do you get an old bag of exhale? How do you know the bags you got where brand new?...How do you know when the contents were bagged?

All those questions are rhetorical. They don't require an answer.

And it don't matter when or how you pass judgement...You don't know everything. If you did, we wouldn't be having this convo.
But you speak like you do. It's not a fact that after 3months all exhale bags die but yet you say it without a problem...
Its not a fact the buddy is ignorant...That's your opinion...

Calling out wrongs but doing none...I wish i was you :joint:
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Hehe, trust me, I am probably one of the worst growers on here, as I make quite a few of mistakes, over and over again it seems sometimes:)

But alas, I do agree with you on the Exhale bags, they are great. Its jt in my own experience they do not last as long as the company has advertised. I dont have a PPM meter anymore myself....but, when I was running tests on Co2 components, I was actively using a PPM meter to gauge results for accurate findings. And there is no way of telling if a company is true...but IME it is hard to put specific constraints and limits on a living and breathing entity...there are too many other factors involved (I sell organic flowers and produce and would never say how long they will last for or live for to my customers...too many variables when it leaves the store and I run the risk of compromise).

But either way, happy growing man! Enjoy your Sunday!

-Snafu
 
... back to unconventional organics. Anyone using insect frass? If so how; in your mix or in the AACT regimen?



I will be giving it a go. I got half a bag from a friend who swears he noticed an almost instant immune response that boosted his ladies.

I mixed some globally into my mix and it is cooking, I will also try it in my AACT and see what I notice...

http://www.onfrass.com/what.html this is what I'm trying out, their site is very informative.
 
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