LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

jsamuel24

Active Member
jsam: When you get clones, place in a bag, and dust them in DE. Remove and put stems in water. After 15 minutes, shake off the DE and submerge them in 3% H2O2 for like 5-10 minutes. That should kill damn near anything, and totally non-toxic.
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I am not gonna take clones. I can get this strain again if I need from the same person (in seed form next time.) I will start from seed next go round. I have about 7 diff strains of seeds right now. Am thinkiong of doing some blue cheese next. Thank you for the advice though.
 

jsamuel24

Active Member
Hello fellow PAR/PUR folks. Today is the great day of the 12/12 flip on my Fire OG girls. Have been dealing with a spider mite issue for a few days. Anyways, this is the transition food that I am using. Following the constant feeding cycle of it with a water flush every 3rd feeding. Flowering Day 1 008.jpg

Here is a shot up at the lights, allthough at the angle you cant see the 6th light lol.
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And here are the girls. Going to keep feeding through the scrog for the next week or so. After the dark period today its time to start tucking again.
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As allways comments and sugestions are allways and greatly appreciated. Only my second grow and I wouldnt even call my first grow a grow. It was pathetic. I think I will start up a grow journal since I am planing on doing a timelapse of its growth, but I will still post my weeklies up here. Thanks for all the assistance so far. Coming to RIU has completly changed my grow from the last one to this one and it has been mostly due to this thread.
 

novice11

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Hi pr0fesseur just saw the entry about your custom bulbs made in USA. I tried to PM you but got:

pr0fesseur has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

Please make some room for my PM! Thanks
 

kpmarine

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Hi pr0fesseur just saw the entry about your custom bulbs made in USA. I tried to PM you but got:

pr0fesseur has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

Please make some room for my PM! Thanks
He's been absent for quite some time. Hopefully getting these bulbs to happen.
 

BigBuddahCheese

New Member
Sorry to everyone!!! I had some of my belongings removed by the authorities! however remember to have something available to prove your innocence i suggest TRUECRYPT ROFL!! so cops took my laptop and found my tent but nothing was in it THANK GOD! i had killed them due to a Mite issue i was having. Everything is up and running and i am posting new pics today! The shorter plant is sharks breath and the taller plant is Kandy Kush... I bought fem seeds and am testing the strains for my setup as you can see Kandy Kush is my new winner! i also have some fem super lemon haze !! I tested 3 varieties one didnt germ after 2 seeds so its out! debating on making a mother.. BTW Kandy Kush is a great topper and sharks breath... i have a BUNCH of tops as you can see.. If anyone asks whats my yeild ... im really not after a yeild.. sounds crazy im trying to test out topping, LST and grooming.. my last plants as you can see were all LST trained! i use a pinch method and the stems bend on their own.. and every day ill push the branches down gently to promote central growth on all nodes!
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You sound like a smart individual, the cops raid you find nothing yet you start back up few days later in same spot? Umm.. I am beginning to doubt your intelligence on this and any other matter if you are lacking common sense.
 

AltarNation

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You sound like a smart individual, the cops raid you find nothing yet you start back up few days later in same spot? Umm.. I am beginning to doubt your intelligence on this and any other matter if you are lacking common sense.
Valid point, but you are making an assumption as he did not say he started back up in the same spot... just that things were up and running again...

Then again, we haven't heard from pr0f recently and I certainly hope he's alright!
 

hyroot

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Seems to suggest using molasses during mid flower is worth experimenting

I use molasses all through veg, flower, and flushing, except for last watering. I also feed only guano / compost teas every watering. So I have to use molasses to feed the bacteria. Its also carbs for the plant. Has small amounts of nutes. Iron, potassium, calcium magnesium. Some have trace amounts of nitrogen. It's all completely organic. It brings out great smell, flavor, trichome production and its a chelating agent too.

You can make some dank cookies with it too.
 

infinitalus

Active Member
Id still love to see the SPD (or planned spd) for the new 660. Just to see how wide the spike is. RedSuns cover something like 622-640 or so, Itd be nice to have a really wide peak for the 660s. A peak from 625-670 would be Tits AND Ass. That bulb would replace RedSuns all together IMO.
Hey guys, been trolling this forum for a while and I thought it was time to say hi :)

I definitely agree with this statement, but the spectral graph will be the determining factor for sure.

I first purchased my T5 set up at the beginning of February, and it literally took just under 2 months for the back-ordered Red Suns to get here. I also had a couple of defective lamps and then a set of broken lamps through Aquarium Specialty, but their customer service is top-notch. Kelly, Scott, and Kristen are all excellent people to work with on their team. I will be doing business with them again in the future.

My lighting setup is an 8 bulb grosite fixture with lamps targeted for the flowering spectrum. My current set up goes like this: UVL454/KZFijiPurple/RedSun/FijiPurple/RedSun/KZFijiPurple/KZFijiPurple/ATICoralPlus. I know I need more red, and I have been working with Jeff at UVL. Since I had to wait so long for the Red Suns, he is sending me one of the 660nm engineering samples that he just got in to see how the results go. I spoke with him today, he says that he is supposed to have the spectral graph data live on their website by the end of the week. He will be shipping 2 super actinics with that 660. I want to switch out the Coral Plus for a Super Actinic. Once I receive my shipment of lamps, my setup will be like this: SuperActinic/FijiPurple/660/FijiPurple/RedSun/FijiPurple/454/RedSun

I believe this is the absolute best PAR lighting setup available on the market. (or if the 660 spectral graph boasts better results than the already rare RedSun lamps, swap them out) However, I have a feeling there may be enough of an imbalance between the wavelength output between the RedSuns and the 660's which will cause the need for both. Looking at the blue side of the spectrum, it takes three different lamps to effectively target the 420-460nm range in force. The 454, SuperActinic, and the Fiji are a rock solid combination for the blue and the small amount of green that is needed. The RedSun has a REALLY strong 620-630 spike, and tiny spikes which barely compliments the rest of the spectrum. I am REALLY excited to see the 660 data and to put it to the test. I will be sure to share the first-hand results with the community here as well.

I learned a lot of things from this place while I was trolling on the internet for useful information on my first grow. This single topic really saved my hide when making a decision as to whether or not I wanted to continue growing after my first run. The results were varied for multiple reasons but the biggest issue was heat output from HPS lighting. My temps went from 85F-88F to 72F-78F depending on the day after having a full fixture of T5 lamps running for several hours. Problem solved. My next biggest issue was grow space itself. I was getting tired of having to constantly adjust my grow space and equipment and setting it up took several hours to 2 or 3 days depending on the project. After doing research, I bought a 4'x8' mylar lined growtent with military grade zippers, multiple ported slots for venting (I dont really use the vent slots though, I utilize CO2) which can also remain lightproof if properly sealed. The hollowed steel bars for structural support can hold up to 120lbs on the top crossbars to hold lighting. Cost: $190 shipped. Effort: 2 hours of labor with a couple of buddies and a 30 rack of PBR. The 4x8 space is perfect for 12 plants, and can fit 2 of these lighting fixtures to accommodate 6 plants on either side of the tent. Simply put, I LOVE this tent. I will be buying more in the future for sure. Since I am my own caregiver in Michigan, I am only entitled 12 plants (including clones and seedlings) unless I have registered patients. I am staying within State law. I don't really want to go to jail. I've never been arrested and dont want to be, let alone have some assholes smash my equipment and destroy my hard work.

I am finishing up my second grow attempt. The *assumed* genetics I have are Blueberry yum yum, Big Bud, Himalayan Gold, and I found a single seed in a REALLY tasty AK Variant bud that I got from another person. According to him, he had 8oz of it and didnt find a single seed. I popped it into some dirt on 09/11/2011 and it sprouted. Some time later, it was a presexing female. It grew quite symmetrically, but due to faulty equipment and poor conditions the end result was less than anything considerable. I successfully took some clones before inducing flowering and I am giving them a second chance. If I can get the end result to be anywhere near as good as the bud it came from, I will be really pleased. I will be eliminating the rest of the genes and purchasing feminized seeds from attitude seed bank in the near future. I want them on hand when I begin harvesting in about 2 or 3 months.

With targeting every single aspect that a plant can benefit from with the enhancement of science and growing methods along with a cautious and competent caretaker, the yield and the quality should be superior if not elite compared to commercial methods and greenhouses. PAR lighting, LST, CO2 enrichment, nutrient feeding, and environment control is the way to go.

I only recently came up with an efficient and effective system for myself to log data on plants, and will be implementing this system on my next grow which will be after I move in or around July. I am not using the system now since Im already so far into the grow. Once I get things going again, Ill be keeping a detailed and organized journal.

My first grow produced about 7.5oz dry out of 12 plants. This grow I want to see atleast 12 oz, considering I am experimenting with LST on only 2 of my 12 plants. My next grow, I want to be able to expand with enough equipment to have a patient under my wing with equipment and material to support it. Thats a $3,000 investment though after doing all of the math, heh. If I am running 12 plants next run, I want to see atleast 25 ounces by effectively utilizing LST. If I have that patient, I want to see atleast 50.

Ill be following and trolling this thread as always :)
 

AltarNation

Well-Known Member
Guys, I've been in contact with Jeff at UVL and he says he will have a SPD chart and time tables for proper usage by the end of the week.

Oops, didn't read Infinatulus' post before i posted this! Great minds think alike. That's a confirmation, we should have charts by the end of the week. :)
 

Lucius Vorenus

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BTW if we don't get at least 24z out of the 18 plants we will have a bunch of Bad Boy fixtures and bulbs for sale soon for you guys with more time to waste ;)
 
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