Dont listen to this bullshit.. because thats exactly what it is.

Illumination

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You are not smoking your Daddy's cannabis... weed of the 60's doesn't even compare with weed today, we are told that time and time again in the media. With all of the genetics and crossing that have been done to tweak strains, I don't think the weed of the 60's and 70's can touch the buzz of 2010's... I can go Google and paste studies and other data, but I'm not about paste pages and pages of data, as it will only encourage further pasting. This argument has a taken a thread about Nirvana and totally took it off topic.

Express, nice try, but you are going to type til you are blue in the face. You stated a page ago that BT gave up..... I lol'ed at your naivety. BT don't give up, he drones on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on until others give up... Don't you realize EVERY conversation BT gets into here has to be a competition in his mind. He'll keep at it until you are both told to knock it off or until you quit. I really believe he gets self satisfaction out of the confrontations he finds himself in on this board.

This is so and as such I will re-iterate that Nirvana will never get another nickel from me for their crap....not saying anything other than personal experience...too many real good genetics out there to waste time and money on bs that has shown itself to me to be crap Wally World beans

Namaste':leaf:
 

Serapis

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That's funny, because Nirvana will continue to be my provider of quality genetics for the foreseeable future. More for me i guess, thanks! :)

This is so and as such I will re-iterate that Nirvana will never get another nickel from me for their crap....not saying anything other than personal experience...too many real good genetics out there to waste time and money on bs that has shown itself to me to be crap Wally World beans

Namaste':leaf:
 

Brick Top

New Member
That's funny, because Nirvana will continue to be my provider of quality genetics for the foreseeable future. More for me i guess, thanks! :)
Where will Nirvana be purchasing the quality genetics they provide you with from, because they certainly do not have any of their own?
 

theexpress

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I know you do not realize it but you just admitted that you do not have the slightest clue about how testing for percentages of THC was changed from the 60's and 70's to how it has been tested since the era of the modern breeder. If you knew you would never have said what you said. Never.

You have proven that you are clueless about the changes that were made and how they altered things.
oo must be going blind old man.... cuzz they didnt test thc % forreal untill the 70's........ lol seems more intelligent people agree with me then you..... peeons support you while smart people who can think for themselves and know better are backing me........ i dont understand why you keep bringing up the point of different testing procedures cuzz there still are untouched sativas that freaks like you like to grow till this day and we can do gas/crom on them too and we will find out that those pure landrace tropical/subtropical sativas wont compare to what we got nowadays.... what your growin is simply "fools gold" not columbian gold
 

KlosetKing

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BT and i haven never seen eye to eye on Nirvana, but we are damn close. The bottom line is for a newbie grower, i found that Nirvana was a great company to start with. But, iv also used them twice now, gotten some more experience, and definitely know that im going with someone much different next time around.

As for the testing, you guys keep showing the same articles that BT's info has already debunked. Those 2 and 3%'s aren't actually 2 and 3%'s, and if you still think they are, then you either haven't read what he has 'pasted' or you are not intelligent enough to understand it, and therefore defend your points of view with terrible spelling, atrocious manners, and a complete lack of tact. But hey, keep talkin' in caps, and keep getting sniffer to back you up with the same old, boring, media inflated threads about how much more potent and awesome (or as the news puts it, dangerous) the weed is today. Its more hype, its more nonsense. BT thinks Cannabis Cup hasn't been 'trustable' since '05', but i would actually dare stretch back a few more years than that.

Keep eating up your new age garbage, keep shoving AN in your soil, go get yourself some high times magazines and figure out what 'Arjan Haze' you'll be growing next, and ill just sit back and love watching you and all the other clowns be tools of what is now a big marketing game.
 

Illumination

New Member
That's funny, because Nirvana will continue to be my provider of quality genetics for the foreseeable future. More for me i guess, thanks! :)
Please don't confuse that Serapis....I do not think it wrong for those who like them nor am I implying it as fool hearty.....just I feel I can do better elsewhere from my personal experience for myself is all...is truly my opinion and I expressed it is all...and it is only my opinion from what occurred in my experience

Namaste':leaf:
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
That is exactly the point of my post of support for Nirvana. I've bought from several seed companies and breeders and I'll stick to Nirvana. I'm just stating my own personal opinion, learned from my experience. Klosetking perhaps need tone it down to this adult level, calling others clowns and toons isn't very nice, in fact it's rude.... Just because growers like Nirvana strains and germ rates doesn't mean that they blow good money on hyped nutrients and pretty labels... that is just a stereotypical opinion from someone that thinks those with other opinions aren't intelligent. That is a sad position to take,.

Please don't confuse that Serapis....I do not think it wrong for those who like them nor am I implying it as fool hearty.....just I feel I can do better elsewhere from my personal experience for myself is all...is truly my opinion and I expressed it is all...and it is only my opinion from what occurred in my experience

Namaste':leaf:
 

Brick Top

New Member
BT thinks Cannabis Cup hasn't been 'trustable' since '05', but i would actually dare stretch back a few more years than that.
What I said was nothing since 2005 could be considered to have been won on merit and going back a few years or so prior to that about 1 out of every 3 or maybe 2 out of every 5 winners won on merit, but not the rest, so while possibly not in total agreement we are of closer agreement than you stated it.

While it is only my opinion I think for the most part up until about 2000 almost all, not all but instead, almost all winners won on merit and merit alone, but by then it had well been transformed into a dog and pony show. It was still at least mostly honest .. but you might have to go back a few more years than that to find true across the board credibility.
 

robert 14617

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if someone were to tell me they have never eaten a big mac and its just a personal opinion that it is pure shit and cold never satisfy my hunger and that the only meal to have is prime rib i would have to tell that person to STFU unless they had first hand experience
 

Medical Grade

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hey, can we keep this thread alive a little longer, sometimes i feel the urge to order nirvana seeds and then this thread comes back up and saves the day.
 

Brick Top

New Member
if someone were to tell me they have never eaten a big mac and its just a personal opinion that it is pure shit and cold never satisfy my hunger and that the only meal to have is prime rib i would have to tell that person to STFU unless they had first hand experience
Other than the rudeness of the; "STFU" part I would agree with you. But what would you say to someone who had never purchased a Big Mac but friends of their had purchased Big Mac's and shared them with them so while not having purchased a Big Mac they had still eaten Big Mac's so they knew exactly what they are like?

Wouldn't that make a difference in what you said to them?
 

robert 14617

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my mother would make me a burger and tell me it was just as good as a big mac , so no unless you did the work yourself then its not the same
 

Brick Top

New Member
my mother would make me a burger and tell me it was just as good as a big mac , so no unless you did the work yourself then its not the same
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You switch from a Big Mac to your mother making a burger and saying it was as good .. and then said unless you do the work yourself then it's not the same.

Well you never would have made the Big Mac and your mother, not you would have made the burger, so neither way would you have put in any work other than to chew and swallow., but either way if you ate them then you would be fully aware of what each tasted like, just the same as if someone purchased a couple Big Macs and gave you one and you at it

Are you trying to claim that unless you grow something yourself it doesn't matter if you smoke some of the very same thing grown by someone else, you still have not smoked any and that you still have no idea of what it is like?
 

KlosetKing

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That is exactly the point of my post of support for Nirvana. I've bought from several seed companies and breeders and I'll stick to Nirvana. I'm just stating my own personal opinion, learned from my experience. Klosetking perhaps need tone it down to this adult level, calling others clowns and toons isn't very nice, in fact it's rude.... Just because growers like Nirvana strains and germ rates doesn't mean that they blow good money on hyped nutrients and pretty labels... that is just a stereotypical opinion from someone that thinks those with other opinions aren't intelligent. That is a sad position to take,.
I believe you misunderstand me friend. I was actually QUITE happy with the beans i got from Nirvana, BOTH times. The price was great, even tho i got a few, mutants, if you will. I also wouldnt dare say that my thumb may not have contributed in some way, but the pheno stability was definitely 'fluxy'. But can i complain? Hell no. The phenos that were good, were GREAT, the price was awesome, and when i made my first order, it was lost in the mail, and nirvana promptly (at no charge) resent it for me, no questions asked.

So no, im not bagging Nirvana, in fact i was pointing out that in fact i LIKE nirvana, and disagree with BT, at least on a couple levels, as to their place in the seed 'world'. As to calling people clowns, while i find it considerably less rude than most of what your buddy express states on a constant basis, I should have been clearer. I do not believe that, on a whole, all nirvana users fall into the same ploy of fancy labels and marketing. I merely meant that his mindset, and inability to flex it at all, clearly shows that he is not open to anything to what he believes hes been 'taught', even though there are plenty of testimonials arguing against him.

Hope that makes a bit more sense.
 

Brick Top

New Member
thats what mothers do , we don't go to them for advice on genetics or grow advice for the most part
And if people are smart they won't got to you for advice on genetics or they will end up with the lowest of the low, the worst of the worst, they will end up with Wal-Mart grade genetics, they will end up with garbage.

Really dude, save up some bucks and purchase some high quality genetics from a true top breeder and unless you totally blow the grow and if you dry and cure even only half well you will throw rocks at Nirvana genetics after that. You would not even bother to waste your time, effort or expense on growing them if they were freebies.
 
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