Wisconsin Revolt

Who do you support in the Wisconsin Revolt?


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londonfog

Well-Known Member
I think its stupid and lame...got a point make it yourself without having to be someone else over and over again and again...
 

Johnnyorganic

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If I were to try to troll under a different user id, I would be found out in a New York minute.

My verbiage, composition, spelling, and grammar would give me away. I could not fake that.

If anyone assumes that I could do so, they give me way too much credit.

Carne S.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to share with the group exactly who you think I masquerade, or have masqueraded in the past, as?

This ought to be good. :-o
 

Dan Kone

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It seems to be more about another bankrupt state and the teachers union holding it hostage.......... it's either reduce some benefits and make teachers pay some of their insurance/retirement or layoff 6200 teachers- sounds like a win/win to me!
A Wall St CEO, a tea partier, and a union worker sit down at a table with a plate of 12 cookies. The CEO takes 11 of those cookies then turns to the tea partier and says "Watch out! That union guy wants some of your cookie!"

Yeah, it's the evil working class people holding our financial system hostage. lol

Pay no attention to the redistribution of wealth to the top 1% that is taking place, the fact that Wall St just robbed us blind, and the fact that all those people are paying less taxes than they have at any time in modern history.

Notice that this country didn't have debt problems until Reagan started cutting taxes on the rich and as their taxes get lower and lower our debt increases more and more? You do the math...
 

Carthoris

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Show me where Reagan had a serious issue? Notice our debt goes up whenever we are blowing shit up and when we aren't, it goes down. Obama is on track to cost us more than WW2 as percent of our GDP and in dollars. That is pretty impressive.
 

Johnnyorganic

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I don't buy into the scare tactics used by Progressive think tanks designed to scare the living crap out of gullible bed-wetters.

If only those programs listed by the Center for American Progress were actually at-risk.

Not one of them meets Constitutional muster as a function of the Federal government.

The states, or the people, are vested with those responsibilities.
 

Carne Seca

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I don't buy into the scare tactics used by Progressive think tanks designed to scare the living crap out of gullible bed-wetters.

If only those programs listed by the Center for American Progress were actually at-risk.

Not one of them meets Constitutional muster as a function of the Federal government.

The states, or the people, are vested with those responsibilities.


...............
 

Illegal Smile

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If all that money was taken from all those rich people to pay for all those programs, would that improve the state of the economy or hurt it? Can anyone explain why or why not?
 

Illegal Smile

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The fed creates $60 billion every 10 business days and gives it to bankers to purchase treasuries.
This is true. And most people don't understand that they WILL have to pay for it, beginning with strong inflation. You can't create that kind of money without creating the genuine wealth to back it up, without making all the other money worth less. In other words, when the government prints money, all the money is still worth the same TOTAL, but there are more dollars so each dollar is worth less.
 

medicineman

New Member
This Johnny Organic guy, what a fucking joke. I'd bet a nickle to a hundred dollars he'd approve of killing anyone that doesnt agree with him. It's his way or the highway, no compromise allowed. Somehow he doesn't get that government is a bundle of compromises, well maybe he does get it and wants it to dissapear, so he can live on Johnny O. planet, with everything going his way and him keeping all his money, a dreamer for sure. His dreams are a workers nightmare, and his kind are winning, stamping out workers gains made over 100 years of strife and compromise. As a worker, Sure, I'd like to be paid 100-1000 bucks an hour, maybe more, but through union compromises and agreements with the companies, us workers get a fair liveable wage, and the company makes a very nice profit. Both of us, workers and the companies would like to make more, but we compromise to the benefit of both, a concept not recognizeable by the Johnny O's of this world. I say fuck them and their stupid selfish Ideas, let's ban them, not unions.
 

Johnnyorganic

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This Johnny Organic guy, what a fucking joke. I'd bet a nickle to a hundred dollars he'd approve of killing anyone that doesnt agree with him. It's his way or the highway, no compromise allowed. Somehow he doesn't get that government is a bundle of compromises, well maybe he does get it and wants it to dissapear, so he can live on Johnny O. planet, with everything going his way and him keeping all his money, a dreamer for sure. His dreams are a workers nightmare, and his kind are winning, stamping out workers gains made over 100 years of strife and compromise. As a worker, Sure, I'd like to be paid 100-1000 bucks an hour, maybe more, but through union compromises and agreements with the companies, us workers get a fair liveable wage, and the company makes a very nice profit. Both of us, workers and the companies would like to make more, but we compromise to the benefit of both, a concept not recognizeable by the Johnny O's of this world. I say fuck them and their stupid selfish Ideas, let's ban them, not unions.
Well, look who woke up from his winter's hibernation!

Everyone's crazy old uncle nobody in the family talks about.

How ironic that the person who has made NUMEROUS threats of violence and death to several members of this forum with whom he disagrees, has OPENLY called for the death of prominent Conservatives, and the internment into gulags of all Conservatives; is speculating that I am just like him.

Not hardly.
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
Well it really is the standard psychological cycle.

Let me explain. Americans go through a cycle of looking for blame, assigning blame and then we let go of the concern without doing anything.

In a way it's like Stoning people to death. We have some crime ( blame ) we gossip and debate then we gather to stone the person ( assign blame and punish ) then we go back to our existence having killed the instance of a problem and have not changed what causes the problem.

Just sharing my experience in observation.

Think about that cycle and see it for yourself in Daily American life.

One example is how we slow down to see a traffic wreck but we never try and help those effected after we know what has happened. We may say "stupid move" or "tough luck." Then we let go of it and move on to the next wreck.

Legalize over Decriminalize!
Don't move on to profits when the people are in a wreck.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
This Johnny Organic guy, what a fucking joke. I'd bet a nickle to a hundred dollars he'd approve of killing anyone that doesnt agree with him. It's his way or the highway, no compromise allowed. Somehow he doesn't get that government is a bundle of compromises, well maybe he does get it and wants it to dissapear, so he can live on Johnny O. planet, with everything going his way and him keeping all his money, a dreamer for sure. His dreams are a workers nightmare, and his kind are winning, stamping out workers gains made over 100 years of strife and compromise. As a worker, Sure, I'd like to be paid 100-1000 bucks an hour, maybe more, but through union compromises and agreements with the companies, us workers get a fair liveable wage, and the company makes a very nice profit. Both of us, workers and the companies would like to make more, but we compromise to the benefit of both, a concept not recognizeable by the Johnny O's of this world. I say fuck them and their stupid selfish Ideas, let's ban them, not unions.
Whats wrong with wanting to keep your stuff that you worked really hard for? Seriously tell me what is wrong with that?
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Well it really is the standard psychological cycle.

Let me explain. Americans go through a cycle of looking for blame, assigning blame and then we let go of the concern without doing anything.

In a way it's like Stoning people to death. We have some crime ( blame ) we gossip and debate then we gather to stone the person ( assign blame and punish ) then we go back to our existence having killed the instance of a problem and have not changed what causes the problem.

Just sharing my experience in observation.

Think about that cycle and see it for yourself in Daily American life.

One example is how we slow down to see a traffic wreck but we never try and help those effected after we know what has happened. We may say "stupid move" or "tough luck." Then we let go of it and move on to the next wreck.

Legalize over Decriminalize!
Don't move on to profits when the people are in a wreck.
California is a huge rat race(Southland mostly), people don't stop for anything unless it is cheese. Get out to the Mid-West and people will stop and help you all the time.
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
This is true. And most people don't understand that they WILL have to pay for it, beginning with strong inflation. You can't create that kind of money without creating the genuine wealth to back it up, without making all the other money worth less. In other words, when the government prints money, all the money is still worth the same TOTAL, but there are more dollars so each dollar is worth less.
Right so the more money printed and in circulation means that value goes down so then we need inflation to keep up the value of things.
Since the American Workers are now loosing the rights to negotiate for their working conditions and the banking industry gets bailed out that means the only ones to actually lose relative value is the POOR.

Am I right? Our wages are not keeping up with inflation and the costs of living?
 
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