Advanced Nutrients has class....

Vtec9010

Well-Known Member
Mate at the end of the day, the only one thing that truly matters is that the end user of the product believes that he/she gets what they pay for. Thats why they (as well as myself) pay so much. It might cost a lot and in your eyes as well as many others AN just isn't a good product and not worth the money. I dont however use either of the products in the video so i could care less which of the 2 is the better, and yes he might be trying to push the products or in his other videos his own products but guess what? Thats how he made millions last year, and to the buyers its a fantastic product to boot. I'm not you, your not me, he likes monkies and she like apple pie, that guy over there hates pie as well as the money that dude likes and the chic with the pie hates potatoes (you see what i'm saying?) Its going to go on and on and on and on and on and on just using different words but yet a lot of people fail to realize that......:wall:
Oh I understand that..I was just putting my opinion out there. I wasn't here to say people that use AN are stupid or anything. I just wanted to let people who might not have spent the money on it yet to try some cheaper things that can give you the same results for wayyy cheaper. I'm just saying don't by into this BS add and don't let it sway you one way or another. It's a marketing ploy and nothing more. I understand where you are coming from. In the end people are going to do what they want and what they feel works.

ps. I enjoyed the choice of monkeys, pie, and potatoes
 

Jeffdogg

Well-Known Member
Oh I understand that..I was just putting my opinion out there. I wasn't here to say people that use AN are stupid or anything. I just wanted to let people who might not have spent the money on it yet to try some cheaper things that can give you the same results for wayyy cheaper. I'm just saying don't by into this BS add and don't let it sway you one way or another. It's a marketing ploy and nothing more. I understand where you are coming from. In the end people are going to do what they want and what they feel works.

ps. I enjoyed the choice of monkeys, pie, and potatoes
Yeah i dont care for the marketing he does, i do watch but i'm an AN user i'm gonna check it out regardless ya know, Soon I believe more ppl are going to try them out just for the fact that in the next few months they are gonna be releasing their new PH-PPM perfect technology, In a couple of their base flower nutes and in their grow/micro/bloom. The jist of it is if your water PH is between 4.5-8.5 its going to automatically balance the PH to where it needs to be for the full intake of nutrients. I know its not out yet to the main stream, I have heard great reviews from the beta testers I keep in touch with though. Hopefully if that technology pans out and proves to be sound, other nutrient companies will try to do the same. Just think a world with no ph testing equipment ever again? lol:weed:

Yeah I was gonna go with frogs, chickens, and oranges but it was to early in the morning for that I wanted to keep it simple :lol:
 

Uncle Ben

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Yeah i dont care for the marketing he does,.... Soon I believe more ppl are going to try them out just for the fact that in the next few months they are gonna be releasing their new PH-PPM perfect technology,
You'll fall for the next bags of tricks, but don't care for their marketing? :wall:

This is too funny!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Well folks after reading all twenty pages then watching the video (I wanted to see what people were saying first before I read through the whole thread with a biased opinion) I have decided for myself that..IN MY OPINION..this is crap. I gotta admit though..he almost had me when he told me that I was a "client" and not just some other "customer". " Ya really mean it big mike?!?!:-P ah gee whiz I feel special." Psh, save it. First off both of these products are way overpriced. I'm really suprised that some of you can't see right through him (I know I mean it's tough..he's huge). You really think that he is pulling his product and putting his "scientists in the lab" to work all because a competitor has a better product? Hey maybe! But I really doubt it. I see it as a great marketing plan so that when his "scientists" come out with their new product they will make a killing off it because their "new and improved" crap is now the best on the market again. Call me cynical or a conspiracy theorist but honestly everyone is out for the same thing...MONEY! Don't kid yourself..its all we are here for. That and spreading our seed..but hey I digress. Bottom line, Big Mike would have done a better job making a video trying to convince me that he's not fat. But all fat jokes aside..In my opinion, this is a marketing scheme so I say save your money folks!
The reason he says client is because I purchased Big Bloom from ANC a long time ago, and I am still on their mailing list. That Video was sent to ANC "clients", not the general public.

Clear??? :wink: I am a client....so no "evil intention" implied.... whew!! Ppl are so cynical....
 

Danielsgb

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I read all 21 pages before watching that infomercial. I've never used AN, and am new to this site (1yr research-mainly Room design stuff) That guy screams rip-off. I think any of these products that are cannabis-specific are a rip-off. Cannabis is a plant that grows in the same way as other plants. Why don't commercial nurseries use the "miracle" products. I don't buy any of this bullshit. If it is proven to work, then it'll work for many plants besides MJ, and you'd hear about it in mainstream media. Uncle Ben has a point (well many) about the snake-oil marketing. Most people who try to grow MJ have no clue how to grow simple houseplants. They are young, clueless, and will bit for the pretty logos and shiny labels. "secret" ingredients, yea right. I guess feel free to waste your money. Just my 2 cents
Daniels
 

Jeffdogg

Well-Known Member
I read all 21 pages before watching that infomercial. I've never used AN, and am new to this site (1yr research-mainly Room design stuff) That guy screams rip-off. I think any of these products that are cannabis-specific are a rip-off. Cannabis is a plant that grows in the same way as other plants. Why don't commercial nurseries use the "miracle" products. I don't buy any of this bullshit. If it is proven to work, then it'll work for many plants besides MJ, and you'd hear about it in mainstream media. Uncle Ben has a point (well many) about the snake-oil marketing. Most people who try to grow MJ have no clue how to grow simple houseplants. They are young, clueless, and will bit for the pretty logos and shiny labels. "secret" ingredients, yea right. I guess feel free to waste your money. Just my 2 cents
Daniels
Well till your nutrient brand or any other can make nutrients to produce buds as seen in the videos below i'll be sticking with AN, do you really call 2lb+ per light (using only 9 plants) a ripoff? I dont fucking think so........ So nay say all you want thinking your all "old and wise" when your really just opening that fool mouth like UB does.

They are young, clueless, and will bit for the pretty logos and shiny labels.
saying that isn't using your 2 cents its stero typing and being ignorant..

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/69/xMKhnMc4wmQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/281/Jxp9TL-JqVI (big buds towards the end)
 

Danielsgb

Well-Known Member
Well till your nutrient brand or any other can make nutrients to produce buds as seen in the videos below i'll be sticking with AN, do you really call 2lb+ per light (using only 9 plants) a ripoff? I dont fucking think so........ So nay say all you want thinking your all "old and wise" when your really just opening that fool mouth like UB does.

saying that isn't using your 2 cents its stero typing and being ignorant..

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/69/xMKhnMc4wmQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/281/Jxp9TL-JqVI (big buds towards the end)
"being ignorant"? There is NO PROOF of these claims. So who is being ignorant. I believe University Study. I believe controlled scientific study. If no one besides the people selling the product have "proof" it works I am skeptical.
 

Jeffdogg

Well-Known Member
"being ignorant"? There is NO PROOF of these claims. So who is being ignorant. I believe University Study. I believe controlled scientific study. If no one besides the people selling the product have "proof" it works I am skeptical.

Dude AN has had their own show for the past few years called Urbangrower PROVING results....... Gonna say the videos were photo shopped next? :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/user/urbangrower?blend=1&ob=4#g/u

http://urbangrower.com/

Edit: and yes being ignorant for the pure and simple fact that you have not tried their products, yet you talk bad about them cause "of what you think". Thats called being ignorant and also a hypocrite. So yes i stand by my statement....
Maybe in the future you wont drink koolaide w/o knowing the flavor (hopefully your not ignorant enough to understand that)
 

Vtec9010

Well-Known Member
The reason he says client is because I purchased Big Bloom from ANC a long time ago, and I am still on their mailing list. That Video was sent to ANC "clients", not the general public.

Clear??? :wink: I am a client....so no "evil intention" implied.... whew!! Ppl are so cynical....
Ok I see where you are coming from. But this video is available to the general public so I was just going off that. So anyone in the general public would get this impression if they were not aware of this client mailing list like myself. I'm not saying there is any "evil intention" He's just trying to make as much money as he can off the general public and my opinion was to save your money because I feel that it is over pirced. So I will continue to be my "cynical" self and save my money.:bigjoint:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Okay... I hear you...but any good business person will tell you.... everyone you talk to is a potential client/customer.

Sham wow.... :lol: gotta call in the next ten minutes folks....cuz we can't do this all day... classic.
 

Vtec9010

Well-Known Member
Okay... I hear you...but any good business person will tell you.... everyone you talk to is a potential client/customer.

Sham wow.... :lol: gotta call in the next ten minutes folks....cuz we can't do this all day... classic.
Hey we can agree on one thing! He definitely is a business man!:lol:
 

Vtec9010

Well-Known Member
That's what it takes to build a long term winning business. Everyone has angles.....if you don't.....your line will be crossed by others.....and then your dog will think less of you.
I'll agree..gotta be a good business man to build a good business. We disagree on when the businessmen are doing the right thing for themselves or for their customers/clients.;-)
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
So jorge cervantes the man who made the growers bible, doesn't know jack shit now either right?
He wouldn't stand by a product thats bad....
Um, Tiger Woods stands by Nike when Titlist makes a better product. Why? Money. Welcome to capitalism.

...an empty drum makes the most noise :wink:
 

Jeffdogg

Well-Known Member
I can now see why you're sold on AN. :roll:
ok well how many times did you try AN and which products? Do you have photo's and documentation of the horrible harvest that they gave you?

Only an ignorant person would say something negative about a product they never even tried right?
 
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