Advanced Nutrients has class....

Jeffdogg said:

ok well how many times did you try AN and which products? Do you have photo's and documentation of the horrible harvest that they gave you?

Only an ignorant person would say something negative about a product they never even tried right?

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Maybe you should reread my posts on this thread.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with their ferts...

If you had a bad harvest.... the answer is facing you....in the mirror.



it was the fert's!!!! lawdy!! The directions were in Chinese!!

I've had nothing but great results using AN's base nutrients, I've never tried their whole line-up. I've used a few other nutes with mediocre results.

A test, which bud was grown in rockwool using AN base nutes and which one was grown outdoor organically:

another,

humble learner said:

A test, which bud was grown in rockwool using AN base nutes and which one was grown outdoor organically:

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right is outdoor

What cha go growing in both pics? Looks good

those are the same strain BTW. You are correct Jeff! It's kinda obvious though cause the outdoor is more leafy but point being Advanced Nutrients is a great product IMO.

Thank you, that was blue dream

humble learner said:

those are the same strain BTW. You are correct Jeff! It's kinda obvious though cause the outdoor is more leafy but point being Advanced Nutrients is a great product IMO.

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I was actually going by the color, I have noticed that my outdoor buds have a slight darker tint then the indoor and I hope the name lives up to how they look.

I don't see how comparing a picture of outdoor organic to indoor AN shows anyone anything. Unless you were trying to prove that you can get bud that looks just as good outside with cheaper stuff then you can indoors with AN.

Also Jeff. If Jorge Cervantes works for High Times and AN buys advertising from them then yeah he does what he's told. He's way overrated anyways.

The fact that AN works isn't at all an issue. We all know it works and can grow some good plants. That doesn't mean it works any better then the stuff on the shelf next to it that is easier to mix, costs less, and is more complete.

Long story short, if you use AN even with all the facts thrown in your face you are in fact stupid and deserve to lose your money. Yes I say facts because UB has put up tons of links that break through all the bs.

You guys should thank UB and everyone else for wasting their time trying to help you.

Jeffdogg said:

I was actually going by the color, I have noticed that my outdoor buds have a slight darker tint then the indoor and I hope the name lives up to how they look.

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Jeffdogg said:

removed.

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Your immaturity really shows in your posts.

jberry said:

http://www.integralhydro.com/advancednutrients.html

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ccording to Advanced Nutrients™, high phosphorous levels (among other things) in hydroponic nutrients (namely their competitors nutrients) were the major cause of chemically tasting cannabis.

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According to the video Big Mike is in himself (as most he is) around 1:10 in he does not say "chemically tasting" he simply refers to the extra things in there that dont need to be in there that make weed "harsh to smoke" not "chemically tasting" The author of that article there manipulated words to make it sound different. Which totally discredits anything else he could possibly say and i said a creditable source not someone who is trying to make AN look bad so they can sell their stuff.

http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/the-great-phosphorus-myth-exposed

Author’s note: The material covered herein should not reflect on the quality of the Advanced Nutrients™ product range. The following material was posted on integralhydro.com DUE to the importance of the North American med marijuana movement and the contaminants in med marijuana CONTROVERSY that recently made press in the US surrounding LA BASED MED DISPENSARIES.

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Sounds like a couple of yall from this site went and did that, thats not creditable thats just word of mouth "I heard this and that about so and so" "she did this that and the other thing with that dude" come on be real here lol

If your gonna try to disprove AN please dont waste time with the ignorant rants or other companies talking bad about AN while they try to sell their own products. I'm simply asking for valid proof from a creditable source disproving An and talking down about it. Nobody has yet to do that, that is because you nay-sayers are wrong. AN is a good product, they might go a little over the edge on the marketing. but hey if i was running a business i'd do everything I can to sell my product. Why sell a product you cant stand by? Have you guys even ever referenced any of the scientists that work for AN?

Dr. Ram Kaw heads the company’s pioneering studies of plant growth and development.
Dr. Valentin Savov is a microbiology and biotechnology specialist who is also a professor at the University of Sofia in Bulgaria
Dr. Savov is assisted in research by Dr. Pencho Delev, a multi-lingual PhD scientist with training and experience in biological, chemical and technological sciences in Europe.
Dr. George Tsvetkov This hard-working scientist is one of the most eminent plant physiologists in Europe. He has specialized training in horticulture, agriculture and viticulture. His research reveals the inner workings of plant growth regulators, plant enzymes, metabolism, and plant immune systems.
Other pioneering research is being conducted for us by Dr. Yanko Mihov. He studies fermentation processes. Fermentation of organic materials has long been used by traditional farmers. Fermentation produces special nutrients and biological organisms that feed plants and increase plant metabolism.
(google around see what ya can find, they exist)

http://www.advancednutrients.com/scientists.php

Theres many others, Big Mike isn't a big part in creating the nutrients, he is however quite the marketer.

Jeffdogg said:

Well at least I am not talking bad about a product I never tried before none the less talking bad about the owner of the company of the products i never tried before. We keep trying to get the thread back on track but the ignorant morons keep inserting their unwanted comments. So as long as they keep up with their ignorance I dont see any reason why i should stop mine... Nobody is putting a gun to your head or theirs but yet you guys wanna come in here and just try to start crap then act all innocent when somebody like me says the things I do and I find that funny , just another display of your ignorance and the others..Show me valid proof, real actual facts from creditable scientists talking down about Advanced Nutrients. Jorge cervantes was leaning on a whole display of different AN products when he was talking about nutes in one of his videos (and yes i know he was just leaning on them, but is he really gonna show you these horrible nutes you claim so on a marijuana growing video?) So jorge cervantes the man who made the growers bible, doesn't know jack shit now either right?
He wouldn't stand by a product thats bad....

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AN sux and so do the fools that suck up to them.

Hope that helps,
Uncle Ben

Jeffdogg said:

after ppl's constant ignorance (such as yours) throughout the day it dwindles my maturity down. But if you think about it, you and the others make me say those things. if you didn't come in here with your ignorant BS and just let the ppl who like AN products discuss them like we wanted to this wouldn't of drawn out how it did. Much like I said earlier now you and the others wanna act all innocent now and start pointing the finger at the bad guys right? Your just doing exactly what i said so keep it up your proving me right

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I'll paypal you $100 if you can quote my 'ignorance' in this thread.

By the way, it's spelled YOU'RE. That is a contraction meaning 'you are'. You seem to have a hard time with it.

homebrewer said:

I'll paypal you $100 if you can quote my 'ignorance' in this thread.

By the way, it's spelled YOU'RE. That is a contraction meaning 'you are'. You seem to have a hard time with it.

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Ignorant- lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified

You have not done the proper research to say the things you say, you dont have the degrees to back your accusations let alone any creditable piece of proof showing AN is as horrible as ppl are saying. Therefore your existence in this thread (since you came in here to disprove AN) is ignorance...

And i'm sorry I didn't know the spelling squad rushed into the forums, is the punctuation police and grammar patrol here as well?

You see everyone, the disprovers are losing their ground and now are focusing on other things to distract everyone like my spelling for example.. He still doing what I said lol Do you ever not like being my puppet?

He may be making AN look bad but where in the article is he trying to offer his own brand of nutrients to replace AN's?

He also grows like this:

Jeffdogg said:

According to the video Big Mike is in himself (as most he is) around 1:10 in he does not say "chemically tasting" he simply refers to the extra things in there that dont need to be in there that make weed "harsh to smoke" not "chemically tasting" The author of that article there manipulated words to make it sound different. Which totally discredits anything else he could possibly say and i said a creditable source not someone who is trying to make AN look bad so they can sell their stuff.

http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-articles/the-great-phosphorus-myth-exposed



Sounds like a couple of yall from this site went and did that, thats not creditable thats just word of mouth "I heard this and that about so and so" "she did this that and the other thing with that dude" come on be real here lol

If your gonna try to disprove AN please dont waste time with the ignorant rants or other companies talking bad about AN while they try to sell their own products. I'm simply asking for valid proof from a creditable source disproving An and talking down about it. Nobody has yet to do that, that is because you nay-sayers are wrong. AN is a good product, they might go a little over the edge on the marketing. but hey if i was running a business i'd do everything I can to sell my product. Why sell a product you cant stand by? Have you guys even ever referenced any of the scientists that work for AN?

Dr. Ram Kaw heads the company’s pioneering studies of plant growth and development.
Dr. Valentin Savov is a microbiology and biotechnology specialist who is also a professor at the University of Sofia in Bulgaria
Dr. Savov is assisted in research by Dr. Pencho Delev, a multi-lingual PhD scientist with training and experience in biological, chemical and technological sciences in Europe.
Dr. George Tsvetkov This hard-working scientist is one of the most eminent plant physiologists in Europe. He has specialized training in horticulture, agriculture and viticulture. His research reveals the inner workings of plant growth regulators, plant enzymes, metabolism, and plant immune systems.
Other pioneering research is being conducted for us by Dr. Yanko Mihov. He studies fermentation processes. Fermentation of organic materials has long been used by traditional farmers. Fermentation produces special nutrients and biological organisms that feed plants and increase plant metabolism.
(google around see what ya can find, they exist)

http://www.advancednutrients.com/scientists.php

Theres many others, Big Mike isn't a big part in creating the nutrients, he is however quite the marketer.

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jberry said:

He may be making AN look bad but where in the article is he trying to offer his own brand of nutrients to replace AN's?

He also grows like this:

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Indeed he might be, but that still does not make him a "creditable" source especially when he is trying to sell his at the same time. Just makes him no better then how ppl see Big Mike, dont get me wrong I am not talking bad about this guy and his product I have not done research just overlooked his site. But will need more then that to sway my opinion mate sry.

Maybe you don't consider him a creditable source but I don't think he sells nutrients. He sells books... If I am remembering correctly, he sells a few hormones and/or fulvic acid or something but I dont think he sells anything else does he?

Jeffdogg said:

Ignorant- lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified

You have not done the proper research to say the things you say, you dont have the degrees to back your accusations let alone any creditable piece of proof showing AN is as horrible as ppl are saying. Therefore your existence in this thread (since you came in here to disprove AN) is ignorance...

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...to say the things I say? Accusations? Please refresh my short memory and quote my posts because you lost me here.