I think the message is the root of the problem. What's wrong with espousing goodness and kindness without having to believe some ancient character that might have existed died in the past?
There is no need for it. The message doesn't offer anything to us in todays world. I believe we can and should get along without it.
What do we get from any religious text that we can't get elsewhere?
Well, I don't think using a story for a Message is Wrong.., Everything we are today are from passed along Stories... Yes, but it must come a time that we move away from using stories to people simply reflecting on the Moral conduct of people.. NO matter until then.. Something will be written down in text form to convey Morality of how a Human should live, until there is no need to Teach and We simply Do..
and I think you understand what I said, but I'm going to repeat this again..
Christaintiy the REality Based Movement is of Barbaric men.. The Message of Christ was to accept all People. All People.. All People... as the Story goes, he didn't hang out in the temples.., he hung out in the clubs, street corners, with thugs, prositutes.., non-believers speaking with Them and getting tipsy.., He was about accepting all people as the Fairy tAle story Goes.. this is the way Man should Act.. All Men..
However, Christanity, is made up of men, and Regardless of Men with or without religion, intolerances are made from and by men...
Christanity as it should be practiced in theory is acceptance of All Men..
I know you understood the first time I said it.. I just felt the need to repeat it again..
And Paddy, if you want to discuss it further, we can, I think you understand me.., I understand your point... we can only go around and around in circles, but we are essentially wishing and wanting for the same thing in Human Beings.., I just don't feel as putting emphasize on religion as a problem is the problem.. and it only encourages the ones who are not strong enough to see past the manipulation to bond closer to those given beliefs.. Everybody is not under some manipulative spell.. Maybe growing up, yeah, we can believe anything we are told, but the mind matures and people understand.. They understand what the Truth is and don't abide by the principles of the Wicked, but they will still not refute the Truth that is in their Heart.. The message of Christ is not a Lie.. REal or Fake.. it's the Truth..
It doesn't take a Story for Good Morals, but our Morals came from Stories made to Explain Good Morals... to get rid of them would be great, if we just lived that way.., but we don't just live that way, and so, we don't just need to get rid of them just for the sake of saying we don't need'em... We obviously need something..., If not Religious context of morals..? Then what? Will you trust that the next person is passing on the Correct Moral behaviours to their Children because you have to yours.. Or would you won't something in place to bring acknowledgement to everyone what Good Morals Human Beings should be? You see, there will always be a Need for something in context to Relay this until we don't have to learn it, but Do..
