Help Me Revive her Please

wyteboi

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1st, how long does it take to dry out all the way?
2nd, most "long timers" dont have probs like that (or dont remember)
3rd, That food is too strong , after 2 or 3 strait waters you should notice a real difference.
4th, YOU NEED DOLOMITE LIME, that way you know the ph is right. (ph'ing the water/food will NOT help.)
5th, no you dont wanna flush just yet. its too risky.
6th, DO NOT throw it away just yet , its not THAT bad at all........yet.
7th, IF it is not a food or ph prob then that only leaves overwater............ i KNOW you are doing your best to let them dry , but the only real way to tell if its dry all the way down in bucket is to go ahead and let it dry all the way till u notice the plant drooping (all of it will be VERY "limp") also notice the dirt on the sides of the pot...... when it gets nice and dry the dirt will start to come away from the bucket sides. (those meters are junk too) also u could cut a 1" hole in the very bottom of bucket to SEE if its dry.

8th , i am 100% sure it is one of the 3 things i just said. So i am givin u all the answers u just have to use them.bongsmilie

i dont know it all by no means BUT i have had more then my fair share of problems.
good luck and i'll keep postin till u get it right! :joint:
 

Foolieo

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1st, how long does it take to dry out all the way?
2nd, most "long timers" dont have probs like that (or dont remember)
3rd, That food is too strong , after 2 or 3 strait waters you should notice a real difference.
4th, YOU NEED DOLOMITE LIME, that way you know the ph is right. (ph'ing the water/food will NOT help.)
5th, no you dont wanna flush just yet. its too risky.
6th, DO NOT throw it away just yet , its not THAT bad at all........yet.
7th, IF it is not a food or ph prob then that only leaves overwater............ i KNOW you are doing your best to let them dry , but the only real way to tell if its dry all the way down in bucket is to go ahead and let it dry all the way till u notice the plant drooping (all of it will be VERY "limp") also notice the dirt on the sides of the pot...... when it gets nice and dry the dirt will start to come away from the bucket sides. (those meters are junk too) also u could cut a 1" hole in the very bottom of bucket to SEE if its dry.

8th , i am 100% sure it is one of the 3 things i just said. So i am givin u all the answers u just have to use them.bongsmilie

i dont know it all by no means BUT i have had more then my fair share of problems.
good luck and i'll keep postin till u get it right! :joint:
it takes 4-5 days to dry out all the way Know this because i do wait all the way untill leaves are drooping only way i could be over watering is giving them to much water at the initial watering..
It was taken great to the food. it was once i stopped feeding it nutes and gave it one feeding of just tap water that this all started.
I tested my Run offs PH and it was right at 6.6 so its .1 high but i figure thats with in reason for soil. just got home today and its done. its fight is over and dead. chargeing batteries for camera but there is no recovering from the shape its in after 2 days. and no fast fix for the problem and only small amount of time in these days to help it.
Oh yeah figured i would add this. i actualy dug down abit late last night because my meter was saying it was barley moist 8 inchs down so i dug down carefuly to see for my self. and meter wasnt far off it was actualy drier then the meter said at that depth. ill get pictures up soon. maybe if i get fast respondses it can be saved but really imo its done
 

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Foolieo

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Here is First sign of dmg, First appeared When i got home from work.
Second picture is right before lights off that night.
Third is Second Day when i got home from work.
And final picture is Today When i got home from work. No fixing this.
Its taken over to rapidly and i have nothing to counter it fast enough
 

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wyteboi

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There HAS TO BE something(poison) in that bucket causeing that! That is crazy fast for dmg. Before u kill it go ahead and flush 10 gallons of "clean" water through it.......and that should help with whatever is killing it. Then as long as it drains good it will dry up in 6 or 7 days (maybe less) but the over watering is alot better then whatever is in that soil/water (still could be the strong food building up,? )
(by the way , you cant over water on "initial" watering so your fine on the way u been waterin)
GOOD LUCK MAN!!!!
 

Foolieo

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There HAS TO BE something(poison) in that bucket causeing that! That is crazy fast for dmg. Before u kill it go ahead and flush 10 gallons of "clean" water through it.......and that should help with whatever is killing it. Then as long as it drains good it will dry up in 6 or 7 days (maybe less) but the over watering is alot better then whatever is in that soil/water (still could be the strong food building up,? )
(by the way , you cant over water on "initial" watering so your fine on the way u been waterin)
GOOD LUCK MAN!!!!
just ran 10 gallons of water threw her. maybe 11... drained like a champ i wasnt expecting her to drain that well. i checked the ph of the run off after the last gallon landed a 6.2 on the meter. the run off water was clear from the start. or semi clear anyways.

was this a nute build up...? does it really take effect this fast? plants history is here
 

wyteboi

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just ran 10 gallons of water threw her. maybe 11... drained like a champ i wasnt expecting her to drain that well. i checked the ph of the run off after the last gallon landed a 6.2 on the meter. the run off water was clear from the start. or semi clear anyways.

was this a nute build up...? does it really take effect this fast? plants history is here
I am not 100% it was a buildup BUT yes it can and will kill a plant that fast! at the rate its been dieing (and the extra water) it should be dead today....... and u aint said nothin bad yet so, maybe it will fix fast. If it looks better in 2 or 3 days(the time it should take for it to dry up a lil bit)
then yes it was a nute buildup .
some strains dont even like that much food and some u can pump like steroids.
if we notice a big difference with that one flush then i say do it again soon as its dry
(sorry for over-explaining "dry" but some folks just dont understand how important it is to dry a lil ,,,,,,, and when i was telling u to let it "droop" cause its so dry, I was just letting u know how to really tell. So i wouldnt let it get "saggy dry" everytime , i just wanted to make SURE you know what dry means........ GOOD JOB FOOLIEO!
cant wait to see the next pics and I HOPE this all helps , i would love to see u do good.... u gotta lot more common sense then most "beginners"
:joint:
ps when u say "drain like a champ, THAT is a very good sign!.........
 

wyteboi

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The only thing i can say is there IS something poison in that bucket .... i have no idea what it is, but its somthing, i am very sorry for ya man.. i would pinch off every leaf that is 50% or more damaged and just flush again .........with 15 or 20 gallons this time and see if they can at least try to make a turn around. I would wait another day or two to pull um just in case........
thats shitty..............really sorry man.
 

Foolieo

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well i removed anything dmged 50% or more i even left abit still dmged more then 50% just because there is nothing that isnt dmged at least 50%. think im going to let it dry out real good and let it be. i have done all that i can i think. if its going to survive and yield then it is its turn to fight the battle. i have 1 clone of it that hasnt really showed any action. i been collecting seeds from some dank bags. so ima pick threw 12 of them now and start germing them. a buddy of mine is going to Maine soon and will be brining me back aton of bad ass clones i guess. believe its all Jack Carare... not sure how its spelt also said he will get me a few random strains.

i dont think flushing will help anymore then it alrdy did. that water was clean that was run off last time. idk... so shitty i would say u have no idea but im sure you do. i feel so defeated....
 

wyteboi

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idk... so shitty i would say u have no idea but im sure you do. i feel so defeated....
I KNOW there is somthing in that dirt thats "poison" ... whether it be the food , water, or just a foreign object , IT IS POISON they dont just die that quick.
Also , yes u were defeated but it wasnt your fault....... it coulda been the tap water or a bad batch of food.......... u did everything u can and i think ur next one will be great IF u just get good mix (soil) and good food. u cant go wrong that way (with common sense) and make sure ur tap aint got nothin crazy in it.
:joint:
 

masterd

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been away for a while, just had a look, absolutely devo about ur loss man, shes taken a turn for the worse, could be a ph problem just from a quick look, the pinched leaves, the necrosis all that does come through from a ph problem, buy a ph kit or a probe and check it out, but when you look at the feeding shed id say over fert, but if u dont pull the plant definately check that ph
 

masterd

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but yes on the otherhand ph should hit it that quick, on that same token your ph might be way way out.... not saying im right, just giving u the idea
 

Foolieo

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but yes on the otherhand ph should hit it that quick, on that same token your ph might be way way out.... not saying im right, just giving u the idea
nah the ph tested dead nuts even threw this death. the plant is gone now
 

wyteboi

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yea those will be NICE when they get done..... if you have time *fingers crossed*

GOOD LUCK
wb:joint:
 

Foolieo

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Well here is the new stock. along with my clone from my last plant. The clone has been stunted and shown not a single change in 2 weeks. and its not drinking the water. i have yet to have to water it. besides its initial wet soil during the transplant. I was expecting it to be in abit of shock. It started in a Bubbleponic tote and i transplanted it to soil. and converted it back to veg. idk we will see how it does All that burned nute looking dmg was on the clone from the tote. it has gotten no better no worse sense transplant. And the Stem on that far Left cola is actualy broken in half and hardly attached by a thread of stem. but its not dieing and it broke 3 days ago so i feel that will be fine
 

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