• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

I, for one, refuse to drink Obama's Kool-Aid

Parker

Well-Known Member
I could read you a laundry list of things that Ron Paul, and every other elected official has flip flopped on. For example, Ron Paul is for free trade, but he's against the NAFTA superhighway. In his 1988 presidential bid, as a Libertarian Party candidate, he favored the elimination of the border patrol - a stand from which he now runs away!
You cannot name a small list that Ron Paul has flip flopped on. He changed his mind from something that happened 20 years ago? Thats flip flopping? You don't know what the term flip flopping means.

His stance on NAFTA has nothing to do with suppressing free trade. Being uninformed about Ron Pauls policies will lead you to incorrect conclusions.
 

medicineman

New Member
You cannot name a small list that Ron Paul has flip flopped on. He changed his mind from something that happened 20 years ago? Thats flip flopping? You don't know what the term flip flopping means.

His stance on NAFTA has nothing to do with suppressing free trade. Being uninformed about Ron Pauls policies will lead you to incorrect conclusions.
Are you a millionaire or richer? You talk like one. "Maybe" you are in the worst category, a wannabee,~LOL~, yeah wannabees, the absolute worst kind. They'd slit their mothers throat for a nickel.
 

gnarlywabba

Active Member
What is all the commotion about.. Marijuana, in my opinion, should be legal. Im guessing thats the general consensus from the majority of the users on this forum. Reading some of these posts, and i haven't read them all so my bad if im repeating what someone else has already said, but just because i believe it should be legal, dosent mean i believe thats going to be very high on the priority list of the president or anyone else with a position of power in government. Yes, marijuana is the all knowing all healing wonder drug, its whatever you want it to be, but the plain and simple fact of the matter is that marijuana will never be legalized if some of the more pressing issues such as THE WAR IN IRAQ, or, OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION are taken care of. I have more faith in Obama than any other presidential candidate there was, and im completely elated that hes our new representative. I see Obama as being one of the brightest men in the country, not because he is a president or some kind of rocket scientist, but more so because hes an open minded, down to earth individual who, in fact, is for legalizing marijuana for medicinal use. You need to think of the big picture, he cant just legalize marijuana.. whats going to happen to all the people in jail who were put there for marijuana charges? They were tried fairly and were put in jail because they obviously had criminal intent, but Obama is very clever in the way he puts it as "Medical Marijuana." When talking about marijuana, if you put the word medicinal in front of it, that turns it into a whole different story and a whole different concept in itself. If people are using marijuana to relieve pain from every day stresses then yes, that is more so acceptable than that of simply smoking to get high, and Obama, along with many other citizens would rather the use of marijuana over putting pharmaceuticals into your body that really, they have no idea whats going to happen in terms of long term effects and aggravated exposure to the drug. It seems to be a little bit more acceptable for people to be taking pills that were derived synthetically, rather than to take something is in fact natural, and, as stated by the Head of the Governments marijuana research program, Dr. Mikuriya, "Cannibis use responds favorably to over 200 medical conditions" and "There is no pharmaceuitcal product on the market today that has more medical benefits than that of marijuana." Simply put, do not bad mouth our president because hes not legalizing a fucking plant.. bad mouth the past government for putting us in this economic situation, for putting us in iraq, for putting marijuana legislation that much further back on the governments "To-Do" list. Rather than boycotting this new government which has yet to show what it can do, how about people get involved, vote for the issues that actually mean something to you, and vote for the ones that dont in order to get them out of the way and speed up the process of possibly getting the medicinal use of marijuana legalized. Dont play into the role of a stoner, yes we all know the government is corrupt in some aspects, that goes to show from the attempted sale of Obamas seat, but i think when people dont get their way, they seem to forget that nobody is perfect and the world is a mean, cold, brutal place, and the closest thing we have to maybe righting our current situation is to vote on it as a group, as a U.S. citizen. People are upset that they didnt get the president they wanted, yet they didnt vote? Come on, the bigger the number of voters, the harder it is for an asshole rather than a godsend to get into office.. luckily, IN MY OPINION, our country chose the godsend. In spite of everything i just said, this is solely my opinion, i am in no way trying to upset anyone with that, just trying to stimulate some thinking, or rather conversation.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
You cannot name a small list that Ron Paul has flip flopped on. He changed his mind from something that happened 20 years ago? Thats flip flopping? You don't know what the term flip flopping means.

His stance on NAFTA has nothing to do with suppressing free trade. Being uninformed about Ron Pauls policies will lead you to incorrect conclusions.
Fair Trade (their markets are as open to us, as ours are to them)

as opposed to Free Trade (they are free to screw us over, by keeping their markets closed, by pretending that their regulations are more strict than ours.)
 

medicineman

New Member
Fair Trade (their markets are as open to us, as ours are to them)

as opposed to Free Trade (they are free to screw us over, by keeping their markets closed, by pretending that their regulations are more strict than ours.)
Now there's something I agree with, screw NAFTA, free trade sucks. It has cost in the neighborhood of 5 million jobs.
 
Top