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CCGNZ

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I knew Prighozin was getting whacked,Putin needed a W,and played it perfectly,he made Prighozin feel safe not acting immediately so he could de-fang Wagner of their heavy weaponry and gain control of Prighozin's lucrative businesses. When Putin sided w/the military in this dispute and ordered Wagner to give a pledge of allegiance to the Russian military Prighozin should have stepped back as this was an ultamatem w/death in the cards,Prighozin got power drunk and paid. Basically this was a gift for Putin to show competance in the face of his disastrous decision to invade Ukraine.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If true, these are desperate men and the situation in Ukraine is getting dire for the Russians as the western arms continue to pour into Ukraine. To withdraw or get beaten in the south means losing Crimea and southern Ukraine and much shorter lines for Ukraine allowing them to concentrate force on the east while Crimea starves all winter and all they have to do is defend the isthmus.

I expect the Russians to blow up the nuclear power plant or it's cooling system before they leave. The only hope is if special forces trap the Russian units there and surround them, then negotiate a way for them out with a big bribe for the commander and his officers and a life in the west. If they blow it up, they clean it up until they die of radiation poisoning or are killed outright when they try to leave.


ISW: Russian officers reportedly contact former general amid deteriorating conditions on front line

Officers from the Russia's 58th Combined Arms Army (CAA) in western Zaporizhzhia Oblast have reportedly reached out to their former commander, Major General Ivan Popov, the Institute for the Study of War said in their latest update. This development comes as the situation on the Russian front line continues to deteriorate.

Russian military bloggers have claimed that Major General Popov has maintained communication with his former subordinates in western Zaporizhzhia Oblast. According to their sources, these officers turned to Popov for assistance instead of relying on their new commander. This move appears to reflect a lack of trust or confidence in their current leadership.

Popov was dismissed from his position as the commander of the 58th CAA (Southern Military District) in early July. His removal came after he engaged in clear insubordination by attempting to bypass Chief of the Russian General Staff, Army General Valery Gerasimov, and directly raise concerns with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Popov's grievances included issues related to poor counterbattery capabilities, heavy losses, and a lack of troop rotations, according to ISW.

Popov's actions seemed to set a precedent for insubordination within the Russian military ranks, prompting reports of the removal of other similarly defiant commanders from front-line units, although not all of these reports were confirmed.

"Popov’s contact with his former subordinates, if true, suggests that Popov’s replacement has not won the trust of his subordinates either because he is less competent or because he is less forthright with senior Russian leadership about continuing challenges facing the Russian defense in western Zaporizhzhia Oblast," ISW concluded.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I knew Prighozin was getting whacked,Putin needed a W,and played it perfectly,he made Prighozin feel safe not acting immediately so he could de-fang Wagner of their heavy weaponry and gain control of Prighozin's lucrative businesses. When Putin sided w/the military in this dispute and ordered Wagner to give a pledge of allegiance to the Russian military Prighozin should have stepped back as this was an ultamatem w/death in the cards,Prighozin got power drunk and paid. Basically this was a gift for Putin to show competance in the face of his disastrous decision to invade Ukraine.
This is just round one, wait until things break in Ukraine, the Russian's are at the end of their rope there and if the Ukrainians breakthrough to their rear, they can really put all that combined arms and armored maneuver training to use and clean up really fast, with a million-man reserve force of territorial old farts ready to move in behind to keep and police what the young guys take.

Then the heat will increase in Moscow with a military collapse and catastrophe unfolding in Ukraine. Others will try, but they will kill Putin without notice first and start from there. A coup would be the most likely outcome and political chaos. The world is a different place today with the internet and cellphones and can't be completely controlled, they can make videos and post them on telegram, a cellphone is a TV studio these days. People can contact each other and organize like never before and many in the security services probably don't like Vlad either.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You might be missing my question. The cardboard planes do not have an elevator and the only stability provided by the reflex of the ailerons. When you want to turn you need to adjust the ailerons and the plane banks, then you add up elevator to turn. The airplane wing is flat with no dihedral, the wing is higher than the fuselage would help with the mass below but it still would take some skill to fly it.
You want a rudder, he added one...

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russia is deploying an unready army of Mobiks to southern Ukraine and had better hope the trains carrying them are not in HIMARS range along their route south. If the Ukrainians breakthrough with tanks and armor what are a bunch of unmotivated, untrained lightly armed infantry gonna do in the face of a blitzkrieg and rain of artillery. The further the Ukrainians penetrate the Russian defenses and widen the breech with lateral attacks, the fewer the mines and the faster they go. Once panic sets in among the Russians, they will leave their equipment and run, much of it is probably out of fuel anyway. That stage of the battle is called exploitation, and the Ukrainians are counting on it and ready this time for the Russians to break and run or mass surrender once cut off.


2 Sep: LAST GASPS. Russians Deploy LAST RESERVES TO CRACKING DEFENSE | War in Ukraine Explained
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Yeah, so? Still need to learn how to fly a plane or is it as easy as flying a drone? Could make the difference if they want to swarm a position.
Depends on the drone a DJI video drone is easy to fly, but an FPV drone takes skill, but the FC does offer 3 different flight modes from full manual (acro), auto level and rate which are simpler aids. An FC will do much for a cardboard plane drone and is required for GPS with a cat launch say, no piloting skill at all would be required, just program in the GPS coordinates for a fixed target in using a cell phone with Bluetooth and push the button and it goes into auto launch mode, then throttles back for cruse to the first waypoint programmed into ardupilot
 

printer

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One other thing, the FC I posted has assisted flying modes that make flying much easier, and you can set the FC up for this kind of box wing with presets in the open-source software used to program and setup the FC.
So what keeps the aircraft stable after an upset? How does the controller know? Is a GPS receiver included in the FC (also your use of abbreviations can leave some in the dust.

Read some of the software capabilities, could not find what I was looking for but I can assume they have it somewhere and a plug in board will give the plane's attitude
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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A pretty good summary of the current war in Ukraine and great graphics. Joe was holding back for a reason, and it was strategic IMO, not fear of Vlad, though nukes are always a consideration when dealing with the Russians.


Ukraine Breaks Through the Surovikin Line - Russian Invasion DOCUMENTARY

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In this comprehensive update, we delve deep into the ongoing conflict in Ukraine as the bloody and unprovoked invasion by Putin's forces continues. Join us for a detailed analysis of the latest developments in this long-standing crisis.

The Ukrainian army's efforts to advance on the Zaporizhia front and the Bakhmut section are explored, along with Russia's increasing threat on the North Luhansk front. Despite months of conflict, neither side has achieved a decisive breakthrough on the battlefield since Ukraine's counteroffensive in Kherson.

Discover the challenges faced by Ukrainian and Russian forces, including formidable defensive fortifications and dense minefields, slowing down the pace of advance. Get insights into the reported manpower on the Zaporizhia front, as the Russian army deploys reinforcements.

Explore significant battles in Pryyutne, Urozhaine, and Robotyne, as well as the Ukrainian army's efforts to control key supply lines. Learn about the notable Ukrainian operation near Kozachi Laheri and its potential impact on the conflict's dynamics.

The situation in the Bakhmut section remains relatively stable, despite heavy fighting, while the North Luhansk front presents ongoing challenges for Ukraine. Find out how the Russian advance in this area has prompted evacuations and reinforcements.

Get updates on aerial attacks, drone strikes, and their impact on both Russia and Ukraine. Learn about the economic implications of the war on both nations.

Discover Ukraine's efforts to ramp up internal military production and its allies' continued support. Find out about the latest military aid provided by countries such as the United States, Poland, Germany, and more.

Explore the diplomatic landscape, including the Saudi Arabia-organized conference on the war in Ukraine, and the expectations for a challenging autumn in diplomatic efforts.

We also provide insights into Russian losses, based on open-source data, and the possibility of Putin considering mobilization. Don't miss this in-depth analysis of the ongoing conflict.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So what keeps the aircraft stable after an upset? How does the controller know? Is a GPS receiver included in the FC (also your use of abbreviations can leave some in the dust.

Read some of the software capabilities, could not find what I was looking for but I can assume they have it somewhere and a plug in board will give the plane's attitude
The GPS module is usually separate as is a magnetometer and the plane has full auto pilot and can deal with a lot of adverse weather conditions. A barometer is included on the Fight control computer for altitude and can be auto calibrated on launch. It can be set up like a cruise missile, no radio receiver, just a custom app to enter the data and a button to launch vis Bluetooth even. If you look at the specs of the plane FC I posted, you'll see it is very capable for a mere 40 some bucks, GPS modules are there too for under $20, but I imagine they would buy really good ones, GPS can also provide altitude info. The ardupilot open-source project make a lot of the things you see in drone videos possible, for commercial and military too. It is a key technical resource for a lot of autonomous projects. It is difficult to work with, but the technical people take care of that and make it as simple as possible for people in the field using a custom android app.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So what keeps the aircraft stable after an upset? How does the controller know? Is a GPS receiver included in the FC (also your use of abbreviations can leave some in the dust.

Read some of the software capabilities, could not find what I was looking for but I can assume they have it somewhere and a plug in board will give the plane's attitude
Things like Flight control computers and other dirt-cheap electronics along with projects like ardupilot have collapsed development times for some tech. Rather than do R&D from the ground up like in the old days, they assemble things like lego building blocks and use building blocks of code and complete apps. There is a lot of civilian technology that can be leveraged into "dual use" these days and small groups of engineers using new materials and shrinking electronics can act quickly and with not much money backing them can realize a lot of projects like drones in less than a year.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I was thinking about those big carboard drones they are using to hit targets 120 km away. With a tail wind they could double the range of these drones. If they fly at 50 miles an hour and there is a 40 or 50 MPH wind blowing towards a target like an airfield and they can ride it, bumpy though it might be, they should increase their striking range significantly by taking advantage of local wind conditions, a strong wind can carry one of those planes a long way under GPS guidance and hit Russian targets well beyond their normal range, but conditions have to be right. An app for a phone might be useful that shows the ranges in various directions and wind speeds.
 

cannabineer

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If a pilot is flying it FPV or LOS, then they would correct the issue, a plane flight control computer does the same thing a real one does and can cope with similar situations, depending on how it is configured. The flight control computer makes the plane easier to fly for inexperienced pilots with a variety of flight modes like auto level etc. It would take a bit of RC and FPV training to use one of these as a weapon on the field under manual control, but not too much, no more than flying an FPV quadcopter. It's just as cheap as a quadcopter, but with a much longer potential reach and bigger payload. Exactly how upset it would have to be not to recover would probably depend on altitude and the time required to recover, these fly close to the ground. You can use a quadcopter in very windy conditions, but there are probably lots of times when these can't be used, or a tailwind could increase their range by a lot!
Beyond LOS, in autonomous flight, how does it (cheaply and precisely) sense attitude and change of attitude (and ideally the derivative of change) on the three axes? The drones in question are the Russia penetrators. Never mind pilot input bLOS.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Beyond LOS, in autonomous flight, how does it (cheaply and precisely) sense attitude and change of attitude (and ideally the derivative of change) on the three axes? The drones in question are the Russia penetrators. Never mind pilot input bLOS.
GPS and a barometer on the FC for altitude and it has inertial sensors like those used in a cellphone too, it is basically the stuff you find in a cellphone. GPS can give altitude, speed and heading, most RC planes don't bother with a magnetometer for RTH or heading because planes move all the time and drones can hover.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Uh, you are doing it again. I got that technology can make a plane easier to fly, even going back a ways when we had mixed ailerons/elevator control. The question again, how does the plane know if it is not flying as it is expected? How does it know if the plane is level or not, banking or not? Say a side wind is blowing it off the desired path? Is there sensors to tell it how many degrees it is off of level? I understand anything can be programmed into a computer, my question is what does the controller have in terms of sensors to look at to tell it if it is going according to plan?



So they all have to have a GPS receiver in them. A barometer might be tricky but I'll say ok.
Well, your cellphone (if you have one) can use a free app called spirt level that works very well as a level and they use the same or better sensor on a chip. GPS can supply altitude and heading data, no need of the magnetometer in a plane since it is moving. It will reduce its flutter in turbulence and smooth out the ride and in autonomous mode it will pilot the plane and respond to conditions, but there are limits. If you are in FPV mode the data is displayed on the OSD (On Screen Display) the HUD, when you set things up in betaflight, inav or arupilot, you can pick and choose what appears on the screen.

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