TRUMP CONVICTED

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Trump can’t be barred from Arizona’s 2024 ballot, says Democratic secretary of state
Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes (D) said he does not have the ability to bar former President Donald Trump from running for president in his state Wednesday.

There have been calls to bar the former president from being able to run in 2024 related to language in the 14th amendment where it states those who “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the government cannot hold office. Fontes said despite those claims, he cannot do so by way of a previous Arizona Supreme Court case.

“Now, the Arizona Supreme Court said that because there’s no statutory process in federal law to enforce Section 3 of the 14th amendment, you can’t enforce it,” Fontes said on “The Gaggle” podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com.

“That’s what the Arizona Supreme Court said, so that’s the state of the law in Arizona. Now, do I agree with that? No, that’s stupid,” Fontes continued.
Fontes said despite his dislike of what the Arizona Supreme Court has decided, he will still follow it because it is Arizona law.

“What I’m saying is I’m going to follow the law,” Fontes said. “And the law in Arizona is what the law in Arizona is. Whether I like it or not, is irrelevant.”
 

Bagginski

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The MAGA's will stay home and the Democrats would sweep the elections and the next four years will result in the US tuning into a Socialist State like Canada.
MAGA *will not* stay home: they’ll be THE ONES who make a grand display of their voting
It’ll be great: we’ll finally get a self-selected tally on just how small that slice of the electorate might be

Canada, a “Socialist State”? If you say so.

Strip away all the hyperventilated bullshit about “socialism” & what you’ve got is the idea that the economy should work for *everyone* - not just business owners & the wealthy/well-connected

This of course contrasts with capitalism, the basic idea of which is that the economy should work for the wealthy and the well-connected (consider the British East India Company - majority shareholder @Ipo: Queen Elizabeth the first)
 

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MAGA *will not* stay home: they’ll be THE ONES who make a grand display of their voting
It’ll be great: we’ll finally get a self-selected tally on just how small that slice of the electorate might be

Canada, a “Socialist State”? If you say so.

Strip away all the hyperventilated bullshit about “socialism” & what you’ve got is the idea that the economy should work for *everyone* - not just business owners & the wealthy/well-connected

This of course contrasts with capitalism, the basic idea of which is that the economy should work for the wealthy and the well-connected (consider the British East India Company - majority shareholder @Ipo: Queen Elizabeth the first)
If Trump is not a candidate many will think "the election is rigged" and stay home. Is Canada a socialist state? As a MAGA.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is exactly the shit NOBODY wants to see.

Sure, it motivates Dems, but ATPM Dems are *plenty* motivated
Sure, it turns off independents like a light switch

It also feeds a wave of revulsion, of ‘nope, can’t go there’ among lifelongy TF republicans & old-line conservatives: those who’ve stopped donating, stopped taking polls online & by phone, feel more & more separated from the antics of the MAGAdon’tians in congress, more doubtful about the path they’ve been on if it’s brought us to this

They won’t show up in polls & surveys. Outwardly, nothing obvious has changed…but more and more resistance is emerging *from* republicans & repentant neo-cons in & out of office.

If SCROTUS has remaining sense, they’ll stay TF out of it: we’re seeing a massive wave of reaction to not just this moment, these circumstances, but to *everything* we’ve been thru as a nation, as warring states, as conflicted communities, as competing POVs & worldviews & belief systems since the Warren court ordered the desegregation of public schools in Little Rock & whatzisname declared god to be dead

This is the world we boomers made, though much of that is from the pushback we got from the WW2 generation. At this point, we sit on top of the most transparent bullshit ever swallowed by such a big slice of the population; whether we like or not, the reaction setting in will change everything going forward - it could crest @ any moment…too many things *could* collapse the waveform to predict what will be THE thing.

if we’re lucky, it’s the vast array of lifelong republicans giving evidence against TFFG, the *mountains* of documentation & evidence, the compelling timeline & witness testimony, the absence of rational, believable counter-argument to all that. Pull ‘plausible deniability’ up by the roots, run it though the shredder, learn to put away childish things and grow TFU
I figure Trump and maga are down to about 30 something percent of the general population, or will be and about 70% of the republicans. The coming trials and the evidence coming out daily now as discovery goes public will knock Trump's numbers down eventually and abortion will hurt the republicans badly. When he is convicted, he will take a further hit, what he will call on the GOP to do as he goes down will astound people! :lol: If the GOP house doesn't die on the DC courthouse steps in a hail of gunfire for him, they are RINOs! This during the house primaries too Donald will get their support and loyalty, or he will destroy them if he isn't muzzled by the court first!

Now is the time for all bad men to stand up for their great leader!
 

GenericEnigma

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Trump can’t be barred from Arizona’s 2024 ballot, says Democratic secretary of state
Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes (D) said he does not have the ability to bar former President Donald Trump from running for president in his state Wednesday.

There have been calls to bar the former president from being able to run in 2024 related to language in the 14th amendment where it states those who “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the government cannot hold office. Fontes said despite those claims, he cannot do so by way of a previous Arizona Supreme Court case.

“Now, the Arizona Supreme Court said that because there’s no statutory process in federal law to enforce Section 3 of the 14th amendment, you can’t enforce it,” Fontes said on “The Gaggle” podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com.

“That’s what the Arizona Supreme Court said, so that’s the state of the law in Arizona. Now, do I agree with that? No, that’s stupid,” Fontes continued.
Fontes said despite his dislike of what the Arizona Supreme Court has decided, he will still follow it because it is Arizona law.

“What I’m saying is I’m going to follow the law,” Fontes said. “And the law in Arizona is what the law in Arizona is. Whether I like it or not, is irrelevant.”
Interesting. I wonder how the 13th Amendment was enforced when it was new and had no precedence. Did it come with a statutory process?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump can’t be barred from Arizona’s 2024 ballot, says Democratic secretary of state
Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes (D) said he does not have the ability to bar former President Donald Trump from running for president in his state Wednesday.

There have been calls to bar the former president from being able to run in 2024 related to language in the 14th amendment where it states those who “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the government cannot hold office. Fontes said despite those claims, he cannot do so by way of a previous Arizona Supreme Court case.

“Now, the Arizona Supreme Court said that because there’s no statutory process in federal law to enforce Section 3 of the 14th amendment, you can’t enforce it,” Fontes said on “The Gaggle” podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com.

“That’s what the Arizona Supreme Court said, so that’s the state of the law in Arizona. Now, do I agree with that? No, that’s stupid,” Fontes continued.
Fontes said despite his dislike of what the Arizona Supreme Court has decided, he will still follow it because it is Arizona law.

“What I’m saying is I’m going to follow the law,” Fontes said. “And the law in Arizona is what the law in Arizona is. Whether I like it or not, is irrelevant.”
It conflicts with other state law on a federal election and constitutional matter, the SCOTUS will settle it as soon as someone has standing and a venue. NM recently disqualified a magat and it stands as law in NM, Trump would be disqualified in some states and not in others, so the SCOTUS sets the standard for disqualification and there must be due process and standards, the job of the SCOTUS to establish precedent and law. They are tasked with interpreting the constitution and ruling on such unprecedented use of the 14th and the 14th is clearly written and fits Trump like a glove.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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so your not gonna show up, but you say your "not guilty"....and with that defense....

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and btw your maga people just got shot down....by the gov himself

Will he have a mob of magats in front of his mansion chanting "Hang Kemp"! :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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so your not gonna show up, but you say your "not guilty"....and with that defense....

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and btw your maga people just got shot down....by the gov himself

The faster Kemp gets rid of Trump and the magats the better and it is an example of the internal GOP civil war. He has to testify at Trump's trial on TV FFS, so he and others are gonna take the hit and he probably wants it as far from the election and primaries as he can get it, the earlier the better, the faster they go down the faster they are out of the way of the primaries and elections. Kemp and the others in Georgia will also have to testify federally too in the DC trials and Jack might be curious as to why she was cut off at the knees and justice was obstructed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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so your not gonna show up, but you say your "not guilty"....and with that defense....

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and btw your maga people just got shot down....by the gov himself

I think Jack and Fani are basically tag teaming Trump and his cronies, he is targeting Trump alone for now and she is going after the big picture of a criminal conspiracy, both cases are speeding along at a very fast pace! He depends on the "leverage" she is generating and the evidence and testimony she has and I'm sure they are cooperating to the extent the law will allow. Kemp has to testify federally too and dare not fuck with the case in Georgia by obstructing justice, a lot of them would be under oath after the fact. He would have to be nuts to approve this bullshit, he is not desperate, but many of them are. Besides Fani would run for political office if fired, maybe his office.
 

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BIGGEST Lawsuit to DISQUALIFY Trump Yet has Now Been Filed

83,144 views Aug 31, 2023
Michael Popok reports on growing cries to disqualify Trump from the ballot now, this time with a new Michigan lawsuit that has been filed against the Democratic Secretary of State to ban Trump from the Republican primary and general election ballot arguing that he is disqualified for “engaging” in insurrection or rebellion under the 14th amendment.
 

BudmanTX

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BIGGEST Lawsuit to DISQUALIFY Trump Yet has Now Been Filed

83,144 views Aug 31, 2023
Michael Popok reports on growing cries to disqualify Trump from the ballot now, this time with a new Michigan lawsuit that has been filed against the Democratic Secretary of State to ban Trump from the Republican primary and general election ballot arguing that he is disqualified for “engaging” in insurrection or rebellion under the 14th amendment.
and that makes 3.....more to come
 

DIY-HP-LED

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and that makes 3.....more to come
Everybody will end up suing trying to keep him off the primary ballot first and then the general election ballot if required. If the rightwing courts want to be kind to the GOP, they will rule him disqualified from the primaries too, end of Donald and clean hands for the GOP.
 

Fogdog

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BIGGEST Lawsuit to DISQUALIFY Trump Yet has Now Been Filed

83,144 views Aug 31, 2023
Michael Popok reports on growing cries to disqualify Trump from the ballot now, this time with a new Michigan lawsuit that has been filed against the Democratic Secretary of State to ban Trump from the Republican primary and general election ballot arguing that he is disqualified for “engaging” in insurrection or rebellion under the 14th amendment.
"these constitutional issues are not cut and dry"
 

DIY-HP-LED

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awe Eastman....you just screwed yourself, and on FOX too.......

I saw that, Donald is not alone in hanging himself on camera, that's why people who are indicted don't give press interviews, spout off on TV and social media or run for political office! They can't defend themselves in public while under indictment and on trial, all their public statements can be used against them in court and none of them used for their defense, unless he is under oath!
 
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