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Trump replaces top attorney in Georgia case
Former President Trump is changing up his defense team in Georgia hours before he is expected to surrender to authorities on charges over his efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results.

Trump is bringing on Steven Sadow, an Atlanta-based defense attorney who has represented several high-profile clients in previous cases. Sadow will replace Drew Findling, who had been one of the top lawyers on Trump’s team in the Georgia case.

“I have been retained to represent President Trump in the Fulton County, Georgia case,” Sadow said in a statement that was first reported by CNN. “The president should never have been indicted. He is innocent of all the charges brought against him, we look forward to the case being dismissed or, if necessary, an unbiased, open minded jury finding the president not guilty.”

Sadow’s past clients include rapper Rick Ross, radio host Howard Stern, rapper Tyrone Griffin, also known as “Ty Dolla $ign,” and former NFL player Ray Lewis.

Trump was charged last week with 13 counts stemming from his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia. The indictment, brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, outlined Trump’s pressure campaign against election officials, a plot to submit false slates of electors and a lawsuit seeking to overturn the results in the state.

The former president is likely to turn himself in Thursday evening, seeking to maximize attention around the proceedings.
The swap in Georgia is not the first time Trump has changed up his legal representation as he faces mounting charges. He has also been charged this year in Florida, New York and Washington, D.C.
“Cash up front.”
 

Bagginski

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Ya can't ignore the constitution or make exceptions for him, the courts will settle it, some secretaries of state will disqualify Trump from the general election ballot in their states and will be sued in civil court, likewise some will put him on the ballot and be sued to keep him off. Disqualification is a "disability", not a crime and in civil court a lower standard of proof is required. It is in no one person's hands but will be challenged one way or another in all 50 states and settled in a week by the SCOTUS. This time around I expect some congressional disqualifications too over J6, so expect some challenges to them being on the ballot.
Read my (expanded) comment *again*, please: your suggestion that I want to ignore the constitution OR make an exception for TFFG is based on nothing I’ve said.

No idea where you got this notion that disqualification is a ‘disability’, or would be treated as such by US courts. Back it up based on US law, or explain your logic for the conclusion.

I welcome you in our conversations, and I mean no offense in saying that your understanding of our system of laws, justice, & government sometimes lacks nuance & sails off the map; for my part, I would never assume I knew enough about Canadian government, jurisprudence, & precedent to speak authoritatively about how Canadian machinery works or predict Canadian outcomes.

When speaking about each other’s internal civil workings, we are BOTH at similar disadvantage
 

Bagginski

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Fani to tell him to fuck off, politely?

Jim Jordan launches probe into Georgia Trump prosecution
House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) fired off a sweeping request for documents dealing with former President Trump’s prosecution for election interference in Georgia, asking Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) to turn over all records relating to the case.

Sent hours before Trump is expected to surrender at the Fulton County Jail, the letter cites “concerns about [Willis’s] motivation” in bringing the case and suggests her sprawling racketeering indictment against the former president and 18 others highlights “the threat that such state prosecutions can pose to the operations of the federal government.”

The letter also asked whether Willis at any point communicated with the team of special counsel Jack Smith, who earlier this month brought federal charges against Trump related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

The letter mirrors those the committee has sent related to other criminal cases against Trump and echoes the former president’s frequent complaints that all of the charges leveled against him are motivated by politics rather than any wrongdoing.

“The timing of this prosecution reinforces concerns about your motivation,” Jordan wrote.

“You did not bring charges until two-and-a-half years later, at a time when the campaign for the Republican presidential nomination is in full swing,” he continued. “Moreover, you have requested that the trial in this matter begin on March 4, 2024, the day before Super Tuesday and eight days before the Georgia presidential primary.”
Gym Jordan should light himself on fire while going over Niagara in a (fireproof) barrel
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Read my (expanded) comment *again*, please: your suggestion that I want to ignore the constitution OR make an exception for TFFG is based on nothing I’ve said.

No idea where you got this notion that disqualification is a ‘disability’, or would be treated as such by US courts. Back it up based on US law, or explain your logic for the conclusion.

I welcome you in our conversations, and I mean no offense in saying that your understanding of our system of laws, justice, & government sometimes lacks nuance & sails off the map; for my part, I would never assume I knew enough about Canadian government, jurisprudence, & precedent to speak authoritatively about how Canadian machinery works or predict Canadian outcomes.

When speaking about each other’s internal civil workings, we are BOTH at similar disadvantage
The experts I saw mentioned it as a disability and not a crime, therefore the civil process would apply. I did not mean to imply you would ignore the constitution, just the country as a whole. One does not need to be an American to understand the US constitution or basic civics. The opinions I expressed are those of the American experts I've seen speak on the subject and the articles I've read, much of it was posted here in this thread.

This much is clear to me:
Trump is disqualified from the general election but not the GOP primary.
He will be disqualified when he applies to run in the state and there will be civil lawsuits to both put him on the ballot and keep him off.
The SCOTUS will settle it and based on the opinion I've read it won't go well for Trump.
People in the GOP will try to keep Trump off the primary ballot but should not succeed by the way I read the constitution.

It takes a 2/3 majority in both houses to reinstate Trump to the ballot once removed and I'm not sure even the SCOTUS could put him back on it once removed and that presents a bigger problem. If a state disqualifies a candidate before some kind of due process (civil court) then it will be abused by magats. I don't know the answer to a lot of these questions, nobody does yet, but the courts will have to make some sense out of it.

It is all over the news and talk of the 14th amendment will only increase
 

topcat

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Chesebrough wants an early trial as is his right, and it might be wise for those not pleading guilty to demand one too. Trump wants the delay and delay costs money that many of the defendants don't have, but they do have a right to a fast trial. This should present a big problem for Trump who wants to delay.


To me, this ultimately seems to be a delay tactic. Throw a wrench in the works and see what the judge rules. We'll see what happens.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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To me, this ultimately seems to be a delay tactic. Throw a wrench in the works and see what the judge rules. We'll see what happens.
It might be a way of squeezing money out of Trump, if he wants a delay then cough up some cash! :lol: Willis originally asked for a trial date in March of 24 and this guy might not be the only one asking for an early trial or looking to cut a deal and testify, delay costs money in legal bills. This looks like a very big problem for Trump and could lead to the others pleading and asking for an early trial, including Rudy, if he's on the ball and wants money from Trump!
 

topcat

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It might be a way of squeezing money out of Trump, if he wants a delay then cough up some cash! :lol: Willis originally asked for a trial date in March of 24 and this guy might not be the only one asking for an early trial or looking to cut a deal and testify, delay costs money in legal bills. This looks like a very big problem for Trump and could lead to the others pleading and asking for an early trial, including Rudy, if he's on the ball and wants money from Trump!
Chesebro is testing the rookie judge.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Chesebro is testing the rookie judge.
Could be, but it played right into Willis's hands and might spur a flood of money from Trump, he wants the delay and perhaps few others will, but most of them can't afford the legal bills. They are starting to turn on each other as their interests diverge, happens all the time in conspiracy cases they say.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This longtime Trump adviser is raising eyebrows

107,204 views Aug 24, 2023 #CNN #News
CNN has identified one of 30 "unindicted co-conspirators" involved in former President Donald Trump's Georgia indictment case as Boris Epshteyn. CNN's John Miller reports on who he is and why he has yet to be indicted. #CNN #News
 
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