The Junk Drawer
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Sativied
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Just a little heads up for anyone visiting Amsterdam, don't insult the Swiss.
What?
”You can actually face prison time for mocking the Swiss flag. If you use the flag in such a way that it hurts the Swiss national pride, you can get a month in jail or a fine of €4,350.”
You can burn any other flag or symbol or holy books but don’t mess with the Swiss flag in the Netherlands. Up to 1 month jail or category 2 fine if you use the Swiss flag in any way that “hurts the Swiss national feelings”.
However, if you do and end up in jail:
”It’s not illegal to escape prison. As long as no crimes were committed in the process, the judiciary system cannot give the escapee extra time.”
The reasoning is that we totally understand it sucks to be locked up and won’t hold it against you if you try or succeed to escape - it's only natural. It’s practically impossible to escape but still it’s considered unreasonable to punish you for trying.
What?
”You can actually face prison time for mocking the Swiss flag. If you use the flag in such a way that it hurts the Swiss national pride, you can get a month in jail or a fine of €4,350.”
You can burn any other flag or symbol or holy books but don’t mess with the Swiss flag in the Netherlands. Up to 1 month jail or category 2 fine if you use the Swiss flag in any way that “hurts the Swiss national feelings”.
However, if you do and end up in jail:
”It’s not illegal to escape prison. As long as no crimes were committed in the process, the judiciary system cannot give the escapee extra time.”
The reasoning is that we totally understand it sucks to be locked up and won’t hold it against you if you try or succeed to escape - it's only natural. It’s practically impossible to escape but still it’s considered unreasonable to punish you for trying.
topcat
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In my opinion, if it's generated by a robot, it is entertainment, not art.
edit; art comes from humans.
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DIY-HP-LED
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A 3D screen saver of the future... Art is what people will pay to see and as you know almost half the population are fools!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It does shake up traditional definitions.
oh and
Why’s Ai-Da, the World’s First Robot Artist, Kind of Hot?
At London’s Design Museum, the AI android’s exhibition of paintings provokes a serious feeling of ‘strong wife guy energy’
artreview.com
Sativied
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”Do you consider AI art a legitimate form of art?”
Depends on the artist, which isn’t the AI but the person writing the prompt. Just like a painter and not the paint paints the painting. Doesn’t mean every AI generated image is art, but I know quite a few artists who are successful with traditional media, ai, and mixed including some who make 6-figure income selling AI art in proper galleries. How much or how little effort an artist makes to create art isn’t a key factor for art traders and collectors.
topcat
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Miss SwanIt does shake up traditional definitions.
oh and
Why’s Ai-Da, the World’s First Robot Artist, Kind of Hot?
At London’s Design Museum, the AI android’s exhibition of paintings provokes a serious feeling of ‘strong wife guy energy’
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Had to look her up
Lucky Luke
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We saw the UK give back Hong Kong peacefully and to grant Australia its Federation peacefully so there is precedents for Hawaii to be given back to Hawaiians after stealing it.
Native Hawaiians were once a sovereign people who have become a neglected and impoverished minority in their own territory. In 1988, the American Indian Law Review laid out a comprehensive argument for granting Native Indigenous status for Native Hawaiians. 34 years later, no such status has been granted. So how has the movement towards granting Native Hawaiians this status, given their controversial integration into America as citizens, progressed over the decades?
To understand why the Native Hawaiian situation is unique, one must first know their story. In 1887, U.S. and European oligarchs forced the Hawaiian King Kalakaua to sign a constitution that stripped him of his authority, removed Native Hawaiians’ land rights and allowed foreign landowners the right to vote. When the former King’s successor, Queen Liliuokalani, moved to re-establish the monarchy, Americans imprisoned her in 1893 and sentenced her to 5 years in prison and hard labor. The administration of American President Benjamin Harrison encouraged the takeover, and he dispatched sailors from the USS Boston to the islands to surround the royal palace. Essentially, the U.S. orchestrated a coup in which they usurped the power of local Hawaiian leaders.
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Lucky Luke
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You don't think Hawaiians could govern their own lands? or shouldn't?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
perhaps we might trial the concept in Australia?
Lucky Luke
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Australians do govern their own land.
topcat
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Alex Borstein. Voice of Lois Griffin of Family Guy. The photo is from MADTV. I liked that series. I'm queer that way.
ttystikk
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This fucking happened to me.
cannabineer
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ttystikk
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LOL well they seem intent on giving their sovereignty to the US military.
Lucky Luke
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No, Australians govern Australia. We had a peaceful transition to a Federation from the British many years ago.
Australia became a nation on 1 January 1901, when the British Parliament passed legislation enabling the six Australian colonies to collectively govern in their own right as the Commonwealth of Australia. It was a remarkable political accomplishment that had taken many years and several referenda to achieve.
Why don't you think Hawaiians should govern Hawaii?
Lucky Luke
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Ever since the end of WW2. Sad but true.
DIY-HP-LED
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Australians divided over ‘Voice to Parliament’ for Indigenous people
A landmark referendum backed by the government would give Indigenous people constitutional recognition and greater say on legislation and policy affecting them.