TRUMP CONVICTED

BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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schuylaar said:
You know it's not like he ever frauded anyone before like with a University or Charity..:lol:
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his current legal bill too

and he doing it again, they have tshirts out...someone decide to photoshop him getting mug shotted and put it on the tshirt.......$47.... :shock: .....once a con always a con i guess

should buy one to give to my dog and let him crap on it....hmm
 
DIY-HP-LED

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BonesBuds said:
I believe this will play out in court, and if Trump is innocent so be it. If he is guilty you can stop saying "the democrats are scared".
With rule of law, feelings and fear have no relevance.
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He has more to worry about than the case in NY, they have him by the balls in the documents and obstruction cases with Jack is coming at him like a freight train and him tied to the tracks squirming.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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BudmanTX said:
why do i get the strange feeling Hillary is sitting back and laughing her as off while eating crumpets and sipping of champagne......saying"guess who getting lock up now bitch"
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I don't think she is shedding any tears she is a pretty good lawyer too and knows what awaits Donald when he is caught up in the "machine" and ground to tiny pieces as it slowly wears him down while eating him alive.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Meanwhile in other J6 and Trump related news, this fascist sucker just got 10 years in the crowbar hotel for the dear leader. Did Donald help out with the legal bills? He can join the J6 choir now, sucker.


Former NYPD officer sentenced to 10 years for Jan. 6 riot

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A former NYPD officer has been sentenced to 10 years for charges related to the Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol which is the longest sentence yet.
 
Fogdog

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BonesBuds said:
I believe this will play out in court, and if Trump is innocent so be it. If he is guilty you can stop saying "the democrats are scared".
With rule of law, feelings and fear have no relevance.
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The Jury may not find him guilty, that is a different thing than innocent. He's guilty, I'm already convinced of that. Agree with you that the standard to be met in a criminal court to produce a guilty verdict has a higher threshold than the court of public opinion. Trump has the same right as anybody else to be presumed innocent under the law. But that does not mean I have to believe he's innocent.

What John Bolton said on the matter:

And I think it’s important to stress that in this case that involves hush money to a porn star to cover up an affair that later involves cooking his company’s books, you have not heard a single Trump defender stand up and say, ‘Oh, that’s not the Donald Trump I know.”
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
The Jury may not find him guilty, that is a different thing than innocent. He's guilty, I'm already convinced of that. Agree with you that the standard to be met in a criminal court to produce a guilty verdict has a higher threshold than the court of public opinion.

What John Bolton said on the matter:

And I think it’s important to stress that in this case that involves hush money to a porn star to cover up an affair that later involves cooking his company’s books, you have not heard a single Trump defender stand up and say, ‘Oh, that’s not the Donald Trump I know.”
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The article Printer shared showed what it means that they are felony falsifying charges. It puts the campaign money matter on the table with a jury considering it.
 
Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
The article Printer shared showed what it means that they are felony falsifying charges. It puts the campaign money matter on the table with a jury considering it.
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I read Printer's article and listened to Bragg's press conference (link below). Not sure if I my post needed that clarification you gave. I agreed that the jury might find Trump not guilty but that's a different matter than being found innocent. I don't understand why you felt the need to point out there are felony falsifying charges. Not disagreeing, just uncertain if I understand your post.

Yes, the jury must consider if the DA sufficiently proved his allegations that (1) Trump knowingly, through Cohen, made those payments to Daniels and (2) fraudulently recorded them as business expenses in order to (3) cover up the crime of committing a violation of campaign finance laws. All three acts must be proven in order to call Trump's crimes a felony.

I think he's guilty but I've grown leery of my ability to predict what will happen in a jury. Before then, a lot of water will go under the bridge including contesting the validity of Bragg's case.

 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
I read Printer's article and listened to Bragg's press conference (link below). Not sure if I my post needed that clarification you gave. I agreed that the jury might find Trump not guilty but that's a different matter than being found innocent. I don't understand why you felt the need to point out there are felony falsifying charges. Not disagreeing, just uncertain if I understand your post.

Yes, the jury must consider if the DA sufficiently proved his allegations that (1) Trump knowingly, through Cohen, made those payments to Daniels and (2) fraudulently recorded them as business expenses in order to (3) cover up the crime of committing a violation of campaign finance laws. All three acts must be proven in order to call Trump's crimes a felony.

I think he's guilty but I've grown leery of my ability to predict what will happen in a jury. Before then, a lot of water will go under the bridge including contesting the validity of Bragg's case.

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Because it’s a distinction with a difference.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Fogdog said:
I read Printer's article and listened to Bragg's press conference (link below). Not sure if I my post needed that clarification you gave. I agreed that the jury might find Trump not guilty but that's a different matter than being found innocent. I don't understand why you felt the need to point out there are felony falsifying charges. Not disagreeing, just uncertain if I understand your post.

Yes, the jury must consider if the DA sufficiently proved his allegations that (1) Trump knowingly, through Cohen, made those payments to Daniels and (2) fraudulently recorded them as business expenses in order to (3) cover up the crime of committing a violation of campaign finance laws. All three acts must be proven in order to call Trump's crimes a felony.

I think he's guilty but I've grown leery of my ability to predict what will happen in a jury. Before then, a lot of water will go under the bridge including contesting the validity of Bragg's case.

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This doesn't go to trial until Dec 4th and until then Donald is under the control of the judge, so if he gets too out of line, he might get hauled back in. However, Donald will have far bigger trouble before then in Georgia and when Jack gets around to indicting him for the docs and obstruction cases, all likely to happen before his trial date in NY. I'm sure if Donald is found innocent in NY on this case, they will immediately ask the judges to drop all the other cases against him, since it might make the magats mad! :lol:They are gonna get multiple kicks at the can with Donald and if they lose this one in NY there are others pending concerning his business and other matters in the state. He also has a court date in NY for the Carrol lawsuit next week.
 
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