Spy Balloon!

sweetisland2009

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Exactly. It should have been shot down in the Pacific Ocean or wherever before it even came over land. Biden let's it complete its flight through our whole country. Someone needs to take his freakin keys away.
Actually even while over land it could have been shot down, way before it reached anywhere near Montana. It was over the Aleutian Islands initially, then a nearly uninhabited area of Alaska last Sunday. Say what you will but Trump would have shot it down then, and stroked his ego publicly about it way sooner than Biden is now.

 
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Fogdog

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Exactly. It should have been shot down in the Pacific Ocean or wherever before it even came over land. Biden let's it complete its flight through our whole country. Someone needs to take his freakin keys away.
Actually even while over land it could have been shot down, way before it reached anywhere near Montana. It was over the Aleutian Islands initially, then a nearly uninhabited area of Alaska last Sunday. Say what you will but Trump would have shot it down then, and stroked his ego publicly about it way sooner than Biden is now.



Should the US take the policy that it will shoot down Chinese aircraft that it believes doesn't pose a risk whether it's in international airspace or US? Yeah, that's it. What could possibly go wrong?


Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Ret. Gen. Philip Breedlove, believes one reason could be that the U.S. does not want to begin shooting things that may be in areas considered contentious.

“The first thing that comes to mind is, you know that if we shoot something down Chinese because it’s in our airspace, we fly in a lot of places in the South China Sea with our aircraft and things where China claims that as their airspace. There may be a consideration out there that we don’t want to start a process of shooting things that are in these kinds of contested areas,” Ret. Gen. Breedlove told NewsNation host Leland Vittert in an interview.
 

sweetisland2009

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Should the US take the policy that it will shoot down Chinese aircraft that it believes doesn't pose a risk whether it's in international airspace or US? Yeah, that's it. What could possibly go wrong?


Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Ret. Gen. Philip Breedlove, believes one reason could be that the U.S. does not want to begin shooting things that may be in areas considered contentious.

“The first thing that comes to mind is, you know that if we shoot something down Chinese because it’s in our airspace, we fly in a lot of places in the South China Sea with our aircraft and things where China claims that as their airspace. There may be a consideration out there that we don’t want to start a process of shooting things that are in these kinds of contested areas,” Ret. Gen. Breedlove told NewsNation host Leland Vittert in an interview.
glad you quoted Breedlove.

 

Budley Doright

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Should the US take the policy that it will shoot down Chinese aircraft that it believes doesn't pose a risk whether it's in international airspace or US? Yeah, that's it. What could possibly go wrong?


Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Ret. Gen. Philip Breedlove, believes one reason could be that the U.S. does not want to begin shooting things that may be in areas considered contentious.

“The first thing that comes to mind is, you know that if we shoot something down Chinese because it’s in our airspace, we fly in a lot of places in the South China Sea with our aircraft and things where China claims that as their airspace. There may be a consideration out there that we don’t want to start a process of shooting things that are in these kinds of contested areas,” Ret. Gen. Breedlove told NewsNation host Leland Vittert in an interview.
It worked out well for Iran, they looked tough :(.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I don't trust politicians. And it doesn't matter if it's a threat or not it's an incursion at the very least. And in turn it shows both Canada and United States to be weak in the eyes of Chinese communist party. Do you honestly believe China would allow a spy balloon from the United States or Canada to float freely over to our country?
what course of study did you complete to make you competent to judge the reaction of the Chinese government?
https://time.com/6252673/chinese-spy-balloon-satellite/#:~:text=Why use balloons when satellites,of the end of 2021.
it might have been a spy balloon, but it seems like if it was, it was more of a message than a real effort to spy...something along the lines of "you just did something that we don't like, and are about to send someone we don't like, so here's something you won't like."

perhaps other people could look for pertinent links occasionally, and post them, so people have something relevant to draw information from, instead of wildly speculating, usually reaching very wrong conclusions...
 

Fogdog

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Oh please. We're racist because we don't want a Chinese Spy Balloon flying over our country? If we flew one over China would you call them racist when they shot it down?
That's not what I said. I said that there is a whiff of racism in the extreme alarm MAGA exhibits over this. MAGA's reaction goes far beyond what the risk assessment US military has deemed it to be. "The risk (to people, property or national security) was lower than the one posed to the very low risk that somebody might have been harmed by falling debris if the balloon had been shot down over land".

You guys were responding way beyond the actual risk. In context of the many other over-reactions Trump and MAGA have made over China compared to a comparable adversary, Russia, I don't think it's unreasonable to say there is a whiff of racism in the things MAGA are saying.

Not saying YOU are racist, but am saying that MAGA's overreaction politically toward all things Chinese compared to what they say about Russia has racist over tones. For example:


Jesse Watters: The Chinese balloon is sucking up all of our secrets

Just saying, those responses go way beyond what our military says is reasonable. I do not believe Fox opinion would have been so alarmist if the balloon had come from Russia and our military advisors had said the same thing. A whiff of racism. That's all. Don't go all "MAGA China" on me.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's not what I said. I said that there is a whiff of racism in the extreme alarm MAGA exhibits over this. MAGA's reaction goes far beyond what the risk assessment US military has deemed it to be. "The risk (to people, property or national security) was lower than the one posed to the very low risk that somebody might have been harmed by falling debris if the balloon had been shot down over land".

You guys were responding way beyond the actual risk. In context of the many other over-reactions Trump and MAGA have made over China compared to a comparable adversary, Russia, I don't think it's unreasonable to say there is a whiff of racism in the things MAGA are saying.

Not saying YOU are racist, but am saying that MAGA's overreaction politically toward all things Chinese compared to what they say about Russia has racist over tones. For example:


Jesse Watters: The Chinese balloon is sucking up all of our secrets

Just saying, those responses go way beyond what our military says is reasonable. I do not believe Fox opinion would have been so alarmist if the balloon had come from Russia and our military advisors had said the same thing. A whiff of racism. That's all. Don't go all "MAGA China" on me.
What I find fascinating is that your pointing out the ugly undertone impelled him to post a suggestion of violence. You might just have hit a sensitive spot.
 

PadawanWarrior

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That's not what I said. I said that there is a whiff of racism in the extreme alarm MAGA exhibits over this. MAGA's reaction goes far beyond what the risk assessment US military has deemed it to be. "The risk (to people, property or national security) was lower than the one posed to the very low risk that somebody might have been harmed by falling debris if the balloon had been shot down over land".

You guys were responding way beyond the actual risk. In context of the many other over-reactions Trump and MAGA have made over China compared to a comparable adversary, Russia, I don't think it's unreasonable to say there is a whiff of racism in the things MAGA are saying.

Not saying YOU are racist, but am saying that MAGA's overreaction politically toward all things Chinese compared to what they say about Russia has racist over tones. For example:


Jesse Watters: The Chinese balloon is sucking up all of our secrets

Just saying, those responses go way beyond what our military says is reasonable. I do not believe Fox opinion would have been so alarmist if the balloon had come from Russia and our military advisors had said the same thing. A whiff of racism. That's all. Don't go all "MAGA China" on me.
I truly would like to Make America Great Again. We just gotta get rid of the Confused in Chief first.
 
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