Spy Balloon!

Fogdog

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Ya gotcha, too many citizens murdered,so take away the guns from the police so it will average out ,eh?
That made no sense whatsoever, unless your aim was to deflect away from the cowardice the authoritarian right demonstrated over this incident.

Might I remind the internet warriors who would needlessly put (other) people at risk and advocate shooting down the Chinese balloon over populated areas, the cowardice of their maximum leader?

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Do you not see a pattern here?
 

buckaclark

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That made no sense whatsoever, unless your aim was to deflect away from the cowardice the authoritarian right demonstrated over this incident.

Might I remind the internet warriors who would needlessly put (other) people at risk and advocate shooting down the Chinese balloon over populated areas, the cowardice of their maximum leader?

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Do you not see a pattern here?
Yes there are morons about.agreed
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I don't think China is that stupid and if it is, it's time for Xi to go too, there are other opportunities in central Asia at Russia's expense. It would be economic suicide for them followed by political trouble, if they went for Taiwan instead of the path of least resistance to the west where there is oil and NG. They just have to look at Vlad's folly to realize what going up against allied liberal democracies would be like. Once defeated in Ukraine Russia will be as useful as tits on a bull to China, except to rip off what little cash they will have left. China has one man lifetime rule and for political change to happen that life must be shortened or they will have to lock Xi up, one man rule always ends badly.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Taking reasoned advice from military advisors is passive and weak.

Got it.
Do ya think Zelenskiy argues much with his top general? A man who by all accounts is a successful expert in his field, killing Russians. Think Joe argues much with his generals over military matters? Winners don't do that shit, or think they can nuke hurricanes, one of the few times he listened to someone. Perhaps they told him the fallout would affect the property values of his Florida golf courses? It is a mystery how they talked him out of that brain fart.
 

Hotrod2

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Hey tough guy. You ran away from a question.

Pentagon says it poses no threat.

“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” a senior defense official said on Thursday. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.”

How do you figure you know more than they do?
I don't trust politicians. And it doesn't matter if it's a threat or not it's an incursion at the very least. And in turn it shows both Canada and United States to be weak in the eyes of Chinese communist party. Do you honestly believe China would allow a spy balloon from the United States or Canada to float freely over to our country?
 

Hotrod2

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So you honestly believe no one thought it was bad to allow the Chinese spy balloon to enter into Canada and United States airspace before it ever got here? If they're advisors are so stupid they recommended allowing this to happen then I question whatever intellect they have to begin with.
Any incursion into a sovereign country, should be viewed as an aggressive action.
 

PadawanWarrior

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So you honestly believe no one thought it was bad to allow the Chinese spy balloon to enter into Canada and United States airspace before it ever got here? If they're advisors are so stupid they recommended allowing this to happen then I question whatever intellect they have to begin with.
Any incursion into a sovereign country, should be viewed as an aggressive action.
It shocks me that Americans can be so Un-American.
 

CunningCanuk

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Yep, about fucking time. :confused:



U.S. Shoots Down Chinese Spy Balloon Off the Coast of the Carolinas
The airborne surveillance device was first spotted earlier this week over the western United States, setting off a diplomatic crisis.

WASHINGTON — The United States shot down a Chinese spy balloon on Saturday that had spent the last week traversing the country, American officials said, an explosive end to a drama that put a diplomatic crisis between the world’s two great powers onto television screens in real time.

The balloon, which spent five days traveling in a diagonal southeast route from Idaho to the Carolinas, had moved off the coast by midday Saturday and was over the Atlantic Ocean. The Federal Aviation Administration had paused departures and arrivals at airports in Wilmington, N.C., and in Myrtle Beach and Charleston in South Carolina, which the agency said was meant to “support the Department of Defense in a national security effort.”

President Biden had hinted at the move earlier on Saturday. “We’re going to take care of it,” Mr. Biden told reporters in Syracuse, N.Y., where he was visiting family members after the death of his brother-in-law.
 

sweetisland2009

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If it was all a big joke, unimportant, and harmless like all the regular Dems posting in here tried to dismiss it as; why did mumbles aka slow Joe aka China first aka where am I have it shot down? Why did the Pentagon say it was in fact a surveillance balloon?


Oh and sure enough F-22 FTW

 

Fogdog

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So you honestly believe no one thought it was bad to allow the Chinese spy balloon to enter into Canada and United States airspace before it ever got here? If they're advisors are so stupid they recommended allowing this to happen then I question whatever intellect they have to begin with.
Any incursion into a sovereign country, should be viewed as an aggressive action.
lol. The balloon could not have entered Canada and United States air space before it got here. That's a physical impossibility. Try again. The US could only have shot it down if it offered a real threat or, as it so happened, while it was in US airspace.

The rest of your statement is incompressible. It's not clear who "they" are. Chinese or US advisors? In any case, it doesn't matter. There is no dispute that the balloon, whatever it was, violated US airspace. If it was an accident (which I doubt) then no, it should not be viewed as an aggressive action. If it was intentional, then yes, it was an aggressive act and diplomatic sanctions should be considered against China.

Whether or not the balloon entering US airspace was an aggressive action has no bearing on the decision to shoot it down. The decision to leave it alone while it was flying over populated regions was based upon an appropriate assessment of risk. Once there was no risk to people or property, then the decision to shoot it down became the obvious choice. If you want to disagree with that, give us reasons. Your post contained none. Just being fearful or offended is not justification.

Putting people in harm's way, however small the risk, by taking needless actions due to an unreal fear is cowardice. The right has planted their flag on this situation and it is yellow.

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See reply to hotrod, above.
If it was all a big joke, unimportant, and harmless like all the regular Dems posting in here tried to dismiss it as; why did mumbles have it shot down? Why did the Pentagon say it was in fact a surveillance balloon?


Oh and sure enough F-22 FTW

 
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PadawanWarrior

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If it was all a big joke, unimportant, and harmless like all the regular Dems posting in here tried to dismiss it as; why did mumbles aka slow Joe aka China first aka where am I have it shot down? Why did the Pentagon say it was in fact a surveillance balloon?


Oh and sure enough F-22 FTW

Exactly. It should have been shot down in the Pacific Ocean or wherever before it even came over land. Biden let's it complete its flight through our whole country. Someone needs to take his freakin keys away.
 
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