AG Garland appoints special counsel

Hotrod2

Well-Known Member
I am always fascinated by people who fixate on the mote in the Democrat’s eye while neglecting the plank in the Republican’s. It has become a cognitive disorder of millions of voters.
I am just an old hippie. While I know many people nowadays like to pigeonhole other people. Or use identity politics. Ever since Nixon and Watergate I've had a hard time trusting any politician. I believe in a person's rights and their freedom to exercise those rights. That simply makes me an American citizen who wants smaller government and more freedom.
 

Hotrod2

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It is common knowledge, read the news and keep up, these procedures have been around for a long time. In a properly functioning WH and even after they serve, people bring them the docs, then take them away and care of them, it is their responsibility. There are protocols, logs and people responsible for tracking them, all they have to do is follow the rules to like Biden did and an underling takes the blame.
I watch the White House Press briefing today. I did not hear anyone even allude to someone else bringing those documents and putting them next to Biden's corvette. His house was not a secure place and those documents never should have been there to begin with nor should they have been in his office on a college campus either. I think people do the average citizen a disservice if they try and push an issue that an assistant did something that the vice president or president did not want them to do. Those documents could only have been there because Biden wanted them there at one point in time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I watch the White House Press briefing today. I did not hear anyone even allude to someone else bringing those documents and putting them next to Biden's corvette. His house was not a secure place and those documents never should have been there to begin with nor should they have been in his office on a college campus either. I think people do the average citizen a disservice if they try and push an issue that an assistant did something that the vice president or president did not want them to do. Those documents could only have been there because Biden wanted them there at one point in time.
Ok, the crime is based on mens rea, knowledge and intention are very important. A staffer packed those boxes and someone else moved them to his house. It is my understanding they are zeroing in on that staffer now and they work(ed) at the pentagon. Someone on the staff fucked up, from all available evidence, it was referred to for investigation, not necessarily of Biden. Administrative changes need to be made to procedures and even the law to avoid this in the future and when the special counsel is finished with it the house gets it, after the investigation is complete and any indictments made.

Trump was referred to Jack on two initial matters, the documents and obstruction case, and the J6 investigation, both with a strong prima facie case for indictment.
 

GoatSoup

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SO whey will Gutless Garland or Jack Smith arrest either TFG or Joe for mishandling classified Documents? Neither has an excuse for doing so that would hold up in court, if they were not politically powerful. "No one is above the Law?" Ha!
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
In many ways I am. I have long fought for my freedom to smoke and grow marijuana. And I just want to be left alone by any type of government. It is my personal believe I should be able to do whatever I want in my own home as long as I don't harm another person while doing it
When that happens it won't be worth your time to grow dope. Here in Canada it is legal federally, 30% thc government dope is $120CDN/oz and you can buy good bud on the native res for $200CDN a pound or as little as $20/oz for good bud too. Illegal online dispensaries are plentiful too and an oz vacuum packed can be mailed as a letter. That is around $130US, gringo dollars a pound. Smoke much?
 

Hotrod2

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When that happens it won't be worth your time to grow dope. Here in Canada it is legal federally, 30% thc government dope is $120CDN/oz and you can buy good bud on the native res for $200CDN a pound or as little as $20/oz for good bud too. Illegal online dispensaries are plentiful too and an oz vacuum packed can be mailed as a letter. That is around $130US, gringo dollars a pound. Smoke much?
Growing is a hobby and I can afford it. It's also nice to see if I can do better every time. But that does sound pretty nice open Canada.
 

Hotrod2

Well-Known Member
Ok, the crime is based on mens rea, knowledge and intention are very important. A staffer packed those boxes and someone else moved them to his house. It is my understanding they are zeroing in on that staffer now and they work(ed) at the pentagon. Someone on the staff fucked up, from all available evidence, it was referred to for investigation, not necessarily of Biden. Administrative changes need to be made to procedures and even the law to avoid this in the future and when the special counsel is finished with it the house gets it, after the investigation is complete and any indictments made.

Trump was referred to Jack on two initial matters, the documents and obstruction case, and the J6 investigation, both with a strong prima facie case for indictment.
If my home was searched and I had illegal substances here I would be responsible whether I knew about it or not.

Trump is possibly accountable for classified documents found in his home. Biden is also positively accountable for any and all classified documents found where they were not supposed to be in a place that he possesses or has had possession of. They should both be held to the same standard.

I think typically the government thinks they have immunity Above the Law while only ordinary citizens are held accountable.

Too bad we don't see people with the integrity of Martin Luther King in the government. Mahatma Gandhi was also another person who was proven to be a great leader. None of our current elected officials in the United States are even close to those two people. I think the last great elected official in the United States was Kennedy and he was assassinated.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Have the rules around here changed in the past year? Or is it the way they are enforced and interpreted?
I can understand wanting to move towards a more moderate forum and the admins are removing the trolls, so less effort is required on our part. The experience of other social media platforms might be having an effect and this site is ad supported too. There are ways of making one's point creatively, and while staying inside the rules, but a bit more good will is required and tolerance for other POVs, no matter how misguided or stupid. Trying to talk sense to a Trumper was always a challenge, now more so than ever. If these issues tear apart families over the kitchen table, they can make a mess of a site like this pretty quick.
The rules are actually being enforced now
They were not at all enforced for a long time in. Politics and it was biased unfair moderation
Which was not properly done
It was improperly managed and that left this area to become and absolutely shit show where people were posting photos of peoples actual photos with cum on them
Addresses death threats and racism

the sticky is when we changed that






Absolutely nothing in my comment said you can’t debate in politics but people who don’t like me or want to fight my way of moderation will always have something to say to try to skew it

I said we aren’t allowed to name call

there is a civil debate you can all do

I don’t mod the political opinions of others
I mod the tos

when we have several pages of people derailing a thread arguing name calling etc that’s against the rules

I dunno why people like to make it more than that or try to make it difficult and imply other things

I know who dislikes me as a mod here and that’s fine they make it loud and clear don’t worry I fully send in your suggestions to the suggestion box


Edit: as always though if anyone has any genuine questions you can inbox me, if you need info
 
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Hotrod2

Well-Known Member
The rules are actually being enforced now
They were not at all enforced for a long time in. Politics and it was biased unfair moderation
Which was not properly done
It was improperly managed and that left this area to become and absolutely shit show where people were posting photos of peoples actual photos with cum on them
Addresses death threats and racism

the sticky is when we changed that






Absolutely nothing in my comment said you can’t debate in politics but people who don’t like me or want to fight my way of moderation will always have something to say to try to skew it

I said we aren’t allowed to name call

there is a civil debate you can all do

I don’t mod the political opinions of others
I mod the tos

when we have several pages of people derailing a thread arguing name calling etc that’s against the rules

I dunno why people like to make it more than that or try to make it difficult and imply other things

I know who dislikes me as a mod here and that’s fine they make it loud and clear don’t worry I fully send in your suggestions to the suggestion box
I appreciate what you do here I know it has to be a thankless job.
 

PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
The rules are actually being enforced now
They were not at all enforced for a long time in. Politics and it was biased unfair moderation
Which was not properly done
It was improperly managed and that left this area to become and absolutely shit show where people were posting photos of peoples actual photos with cum on them
Addresses death threats and racism

the sticky is when we changed that






Absolutely nothing in my comment said you can’t debate in politics but people who don’t like me or want to fight my way of moderation will always have something to say to try to skew it

I said we aren’t allowed to name call

there is a civil debate you can all do

I don’t mod the political opinions of others
I mod the tos

when we have several pages of people derailing a thread arguing name calling etc that’s against the rules

I dunno why people like to make it more than that or try to make it difficult and imply other things

I know who dislikes me as a mod here and that’s fine they make it loud and clear don’t worry I fully send in your suggestions to the suggestion box
AMEN!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am just an old hippie. While I know many people nowadays like to pigeonhole other people. Or use identity politics. Ever since Nixon and Watergate I've had a hard time trusting any politician. I believe in a person's rights and their freedom to exercise those rights. That simply makes me an American citizen who wants smaller government and more freedom.
Wanting smaller government correlates tightly with the sort of libertarian ideology that opens doors to fascism.
It is identifiable by a triad of policy aims:
small government
deregulated markets
low taxes
which, when followed to their logical end, means eliminating social aid to the poor and disabled, freeing corporations to overcharge for everything while preaching the bullshit of trickle-down, and eliminating the republic’s immune system against frankly undemocratic movements like maga, the Klan, and dominionists.

Incompatible with any recognizable hippie ideal. They were about compassion, in stark contrast to libertarians.

 

printer

Well-Known Member
I appreciate what you do here I know it has to be a thankless job.
I did it for a year at another site, political section, a lot more allowed than here. It was more right wing-centric, the mods thought it was a good idea to have one 'liberal' on the team as maybe I could give a different perspective. But we did have a line drawn and held people to it, try to treat each other with respect.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
The rules are actually being enforced now
They were not at all enforced for a long time in. Politics and it was biased unfair moderation
Which was not properly done
It was improperly managed and that left this area to become and absolutely shit show where people were posting photos of peoples actual photos with cum on them
Addresses death threats and racism

the sticky is when we changed that






Absolutely nothing in my comment said you can’t debate in politics but people who don’t like me or want to fight my way of moderation will always have something to say to try to skew it

I said we aren’t allowed to name call

there is a civil debate you can all do

I don’t mod the political opinions of others
I mod the tos

when we have several pages of people derailing a thread arguing name calling etc that’s against the rules

I dunno why people like to make it more than that or try to make it difficult and imply other things

I know who dislikes me as a mod here and that’s fine they make it loud and clear don’t worry I fully send in your suggestions to the suggestion box


Edit: as always though if anyone has any genuine questions you can inbox me, if you need info
I support your efforts and spoke clearly enough about how I feel about civil discourse, humor and goodwill. I was aware that the rules had not changed and it appears to be an effort at actual TOS enforcement. I support moderation by humans as opposed to algorithms and see no problem with your style. The change was a bit sudden, though announced clearly enough at the top of the thread. Some coming back here after a spell away will notice the changes!
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
I support your efforts and spoke clearly enough about how I feel about civil discourse, humor and goodwill. I was aware that the rules had not changed and it appears to be an effort at actual TOS enforcement. I support moderation by humans as opposed to algorithms and see no problem with your style. The change was a bit sudden, though announced clearly enough at the top of the thread. Some coming back here after a spell away will notice the changes!
yeah i was mostly rambling while quoting you sorry ,
 
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