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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Money for Ukraine gas development is part of this deal...

If the UK will give money for Ukrainian gas development, what would Germany do? All that gas in Ukraine, just on the other side of Poland with existing pipelines as a bonus and Germany is in dire need of gas for energy and its large petrochemical and other industries as well. Ukraine kicking Russia's ass over some of the richest of those gas fields might have got the Germans thinking. The UK doesn't need the gas, but they are investing in Ukrainian gas development, as Ukraine gains more territory the investment opportunities become more stable and attractive. Poland could use gas as well, both Poland and Germany are reverting back to coal powered electric generation, gas would be much cleaner.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572764193211797505
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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But you know that Russia and China will support each other in a UN vote. If Russia dissolves then China is going to feel a little lonely.
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There's talk of kicking Russia off the security council they and the USSR are just a pain in the ass anyway. The whole security council idea is dubious anyway and arbitrary about who sits on it. How about only democratic countries can vote at the UN. they don't necessarily have to be liberal democracies, but have to meet the UNs own established criteria, all the autocrats sit as observers. Realistically, only those nations that have and live by the rule of law can manage and police a rules based global system.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Makes sense and rail bridges, fuel dumps and ammo depots within range of Ukraine's borders are fair game. Stop them in Russia and since their logistical support is so limited and weak make the trains stop 100km from Ukraine's border, so much for the Russian army and their air force can be dealt with easy enough as can their navy.

Putin wants to escalate and claim Ukrainian territory as Russian, then make him feel the pain by ejecting him from the country and cutting the rail links to Ukraine by destroying bridges and tunnels.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572786026594308096
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Money for Ukraine gas development is part of this deal...

If the UK will give money for Ukrainian gas development, what would Germany do? All that gas in Ukraine, just on the other side of Poland with existing pipelines as a bonus and Germany is in dire need of gas for energy and its large petrochemical and other industries as well. Ukraine kicking Russia's ass over some of the richest of those gas fields might have got the Germans thinking. The UK doesn't need the gas, but they are investing in Ukrainian gas development, as Ukraine gains more territory the investment opportunities become more stable and attractive. Poland could use gas as well, both Poland and Germany are reverting back to coal powered electric generation, gas would be much cleaner.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1572764193211797505
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it at least means the UK has confidence that the Ukrainians are going to win...
there does seem to be a fair amount to develop right up against their border with Poland. not sure how secure it would be, but it would be the furthest from the russians for the most part
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
it at least means the UK has confidence that the Ukrainians are going to win...
there does seem to be a fair amount to develop right up against their border with Poland. not sure how secure it would be, but it would be the furthest from the russians for the most part
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Considering the Russians offensive power in another month or two they could drill in the Kharkiv area, but in the west as well. Offering drilling companies, a kind of insurance against military losses would incentivize them. If there is as much gas, there as reported, then drilling wells and capping them should be low risk, sand bagging them up, they would need a direct hit to destroy them. Gas treatment plants can be prefabbed in Germany and assembled in Ukraine and defended by German supplied AA missiles. By the time they would be ready to construct such a plant, the strategic situation could be much different in Ukraine and the Russians even gone. Once they are gone there's gas in Crimea and offshore in the shallows on the west side and in other places. Sure, it could take a couple of years to develop and get the gas flowing, if they made it a priority and the pipelines for much of it is already there. Germany is converting to tanker LNG at a rapid pace

Just the sheer amount of money to be made and the energy crises in Europe should do the trick for most of it.
 
Friendly_Grower

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Is it true that there are protests in Russia against War?
Is it also true that there is an order to stop Men age 18 to 60 from leaving Russia on airplanes?

I'm simply skimming the news so I hope others have more info.
 
Lucky Luke

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Has anyone said anything about President Biden addressing Nuclear War at the U.N.?
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Stock market is still in the trash so a nuclear exchange wouldn't help. Conventional war means lots of steel. Steel can and does stimulate growth. Conventional war is where the money is. From coal to high tech gizmos.
 
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Medvedev threatened to respond with nuclear weapons to NATO strike on Crimea
In the event of a NATO strike on Crimea, Russia will immediately respond with a nuclear strike. This was announced by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev.

“Various retired idiots with generals' lanterns do not need to scare us with talk about a NATO strike on Crimea. The answer with a nuclear strike from Russia will be lightning fast,” Medvedev wrote in his telegram channel. He noted that Russian hypersonic missiles are guaranteed to hit targets in the United States and Europe and will do it much faster.

Earlier, retired US General Ben Hodges said that Washington would allegedly inflict a "crushing blow" on Russian troops, Channel Five reports . He believes that American leader Joe Biden will order the destruction of military bases in Crimea. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a special operation on the territory of Ukraine on February 24.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Medvedev threatened to respond with nuclear weapons to NATO strike on Crimea
In the event of a NATO strike on Crimea, Russia will immediately respond with a nuclear strike. This was announced by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev.

“Various retired idiots with generals' lanterns do not need to scare us with talk about a NATO strike on Crimea. The answer with a nuclear strike from Russia will be lightning fast,” Medvedev wrote in his telegram channel. He noted that Russian hypersonic missiles are guaranteed to hit targets in the United States and Europe and will do it much faster.

Earlier, retired US General Ben Hodges said that Washington would allegedly inflict a "crushing blow" on Russian troops, Channel Five reports . He believes that American leader Joe Biden will order the destruction of military bases in Crimea. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a special operation on the territory of Ukraine on February 24.
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Ben Hodges knows what is about to happen to the Russians at Kherson for sure and is guessing at what his next move would be. He knows the Russians are soon gonna be a lot more desperate in Ukraine than they are now, and the Russian army could collapse there.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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edition.cnn.com

Russia drafts anti-war protesters into military amid nationwide demonstrations: monitoring group

More than 1,300 people were detained across Russia on Wednesday for participating in nationwide anti-war protests -- with some directly conscripted into the military, according to a monitoring group, after leader Vladimir Putin announced a "partial mobilization" of citizens for his faltering...
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Seems they are sending protestors to the front now as punishment.
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if they sent me to the front against my will and gave me a weapon with live ammo, i know who i'd be using it on...
 
ANC

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
if they sent me to the front against my will and gave me a weapon with live ammo, i know who i'd be using it on...
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I've been right where you were in your position now... our country had 2-year conscription for school leavers...
I was literally in the first year not forced to go to the border as soldiers....
Military training started in 8th grade including marching and firearms practice etc.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Russia's threats 'don't add up' | Justin Bronk
25,930 views Sep 22, 2022 Putin's military escalation is 'six months too late.' Nuclear weapons and further aggression will not deter Kyiv in its quest for liberation, Justin Bronk tells Anna Cunningham.
 
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