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Roger A. Shrubber
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what do you suppose a single russian nuke sub can accomplish? are we positive that we know where all of them are at all times?
a trident can carry 8 100 kiloton warheads. i'm supposing they have something comparable. over a densely populated city that would kill more than 1.5 million people, more than 8 million would require some kind of treatment. if just one missile gets through. do you suppose we'll be that lucky?
DIY-HP-LED
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I never said it was a good idea! I just laid out the stark reality and never even mentioned nuclear winter!
xtsho
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Fuck trump. If he had been President Russia would have invaded Ukraine unopposed with trumps blessing. Both trump and pootin are pure garbage the world would be better off if neither had been born.
printer
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But at least Germany will have its natural gas.
xtsho
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What is this guy doing over there? pootin said the Ukrainians were all nazi's yet they're fighting side by side with this Black American volunteer. I'm sure many are racist but during war things change. And I'm sure when this is over those that fought with him that had racist ideals will take a long hard look at their flawed beliefs and probably change for the better.
DIY-HP-LED
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I look at it as the same fight for liberal democracy on two different fronts, America and Ukraine, Trump and Putin are fascist allies. The fates of both America and Ukraine are linked in a common struggle for liberal democracy. I figure that will be the Biden doctrine, America and its allies support liberal democracy, not strongmen, there would be a consensus among the liberal democratic allies about this.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ukraine is a multicultural liberal democracy, that's the policy and EU membership will control corruption and guarantee human rights for minorities. Being free, like in America, means freedom to be an asshole, a racist and corrupt, until caught. The war has caused a seismic shift in values and attitudes towards the west, thanks largely to Zelenskiy, he demonstrated that our system can win, just as the Ukrainian army demonstrated that NATO military culture and tactical doctrine is superior to the Russian methods.
printer
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Psychologist Zhavnerov named a way to cope with stress against the background of mobilization
In order to survive stressful news and not succumb to panic, you need to analyze all the possible outcomes of events for you related to what is happening. Pavel Zhavnerov, a psychologist and specialist in anxiety disorders, spoke about this in an interview with URA.RU.
“If a person is generally calm, but this news unsettles him, here we must clearly understand that one of the areas of experience is plans for the future. When a person is faced with a certain amount of uncertainty, he does not know what awaits him in the future. Only negative scenarios of this future occur in his head, and he sees no other options. A person is worried and begins to believe in them. In order to be more calm about the future, you need to determine the areas you are worried about and paint, like in a movie, all possible scenarios for the development of events, from the worst to the most ideal,” said Pavel Zhavnerov.
The psychologist explained with an example how exactly you need to calm yourself. “I have a client, when he found out about the mobilization, he immediately wrote that he was worried that he would be called up and sent to the front. We discussed with him and painted all possible options. First, he will receive a summons, he will undergo a medical examination, he will be sent to the war zone. The second - he will pass the commission, but will be credited to the headquarters 100 km from this zone. We write everything, even those scripts where they will not be accepted for health reasons. Or he will come to the military registration and enlistment office, and the recruitment is finished. In the end, the agenda will not come or a letter with a voluntary appeal will come, ”the specialist noted.
Zhavnerov stressed that the ability to see all the outcomes will calm a person. “He prescribes all these scenarios, begins to see them. His belief in different outcomes begins to evenly distribute, and his confidence in the negative scenario begins to decline. A person begins to be more calm about the future and looks at the situation more adequately, ”added the interlocutor of URA.RU.
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The IAEA started negotiations with the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the security zone around the ZNPP
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has begun negotiations with Ukraine and Russia on the parameters for creating a security zone around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. This was stated at a briefing by the director general of the agency Rafael Grossi.
“We started with real negotiations about the parameters of the zone. This process is only with Ukraine and Russia,” RIA Novosti quoted the head of the IAEA as saying. Grossi clarified that we are talking about specific parameters.
At the same time, according to him, both sides are convinced "that the creation of this zone is necessary." The director general of the agency intends to visit Kyiv soon, and then Russia.
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Bondarev: how long will the preparation of those mobilized to participate in the special operation last
The preparation of citizens who fall under partial mobilization to participate in a special operation in Ukraine after being drafted will last more than a month. This was stated by Viktor Bondarev, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security.
“Of course, they won’t get there in a month. They will fall after a decision is made that yes, these people, these units are combat-ready, ”Bondarev said in an interview with the Vmeste-RF TV channel. “They [mobilized] must be called up, checked for health, equipped, sent for training, retraining, for coherence in the units. And only after the commission decides that yes, in fact, this unit, this military unit is able to fulfill the combat mission clearly and without losses, then they will be relocated to the front line, ”he specified.
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The Russians were advised not to wring their hands due to mobilization
If an arm is broken by accident, the delay from mobilization will be temporary, and if on purpose, the Russian will receive a criminal punishment. This statement was made by a human rights activist, director of the human rights organization "Conscript's School" Aleksey Tabalov.
“Deliberate self-injury will be regarded as an attempt to avoid mobilization. For this, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for punishment in the form of a fine, forced labor or imprisonment for up to two years, ”he said. His words are quoted by Lenta.Ru.
An accidental injury to a limb exempts from mobilization for a while. This will give a delay of up to six months.
On September 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization in Russia, writes MK.RU. Only those citizens who are in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the armed forces, have certain specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to military service, Nation News adds . The Federation Council approved the punishment for refusing to participate in hostilities - it provides for imprisonment for up to 10 years.
Tyumen residents who went to uncoordinated rallies will be the first to receive summons
Residents of Tyumen, who took part in an uncoordinated action against the partial mobilization introduced in Russia, risk being automatically enrolled in the ranks of participants in the special operation. Ilya Remeslo, a social activist and lawyer, writes in his telegram channel that such sanctions will be applied to protesters. The information was also confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies.
“Mobilization activities will be carried out in relation to participants in illegal rallies. Documents will be checked immediately on the spot, identify, detain and send to the police department. Then, with the participation of representatives of the military registration and enlistment office, the draft category will be determined. Those who do not fit in the first one will be registered for the next draft,” wrote Ilya Remeslo in his telegram channel.
The information was confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies. “Everyone who goes to the No Mobilization action will be sent to serve out of turn,” said an agency insider.
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In order to survive stressful news and not succumb to panic, you need to analyze all the possible outcomes of events for you related to what is happening. Pavel Zhavnerov, a psychologist and specialist in anxiety disorders, spoke about this in an interview with URA.RU.
“If a person is generally calm, but this news unsettles him, here we must clearly understand that one of the areas of experience is plans for the future. When a person is faced with a certain amount of uncertainty, he does not know what awaits him in the future. Only negative scenarios of this future occur in his head, and he sees no other options. A person is worried and begins to believe in them. In order to be more calm about the future, you need to determine the areas you are worried about and paint, like in a movie, all possible scenarios for the development of events, from the worst to the most ideal,” said Pavel Zhavnerov.
The psychologist explained with an example how exactly you need to calm yourself. “I have a client, when he found out about the mobilization, he immediately wrote that he was worried that he would be called up and sent to the front. We discussed with him and painted all possible options. First, he will receive a summons, he will undergo a medical examination, he will be sent to the war zone. The second - he will pass the commission, but will be credited to the headquarters 100 km from this zone. We write everything, even those scripts where they will not be accepted for health reasons. Or he will come to the military registration and enlistment office, and the recruitment is finished. In the end, the agenda will not come or a letter with a voluntary appeal will come, ”the specialist noted.
Zhavnerov stressed that the ability to see all the outcomes will calm a person. “He prescribes all these scenarios, begins to see them. His belief in different outcomes begins to evenly distribute, and his confidence in the negative scenario begins to decline. A person begins to be more calm about the future and looks at the situation more adequately, ”added the interlocutor of URA.RU.
Психолог Жавнеров назвал способ справиться со стрессом на фоне мобилизации
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The IAEA started negotiations with the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the security zone around the ZNPP
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has begun negotiations with Ukraine and Russia on the parameters for creating a security zone around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. This was stated at a briefing by the director general of the agency Rafael Grossi.
“We started with real negotiations about the parameters of the zone. This process is only with Ukraine and Russia,” RIA Novosti quoted the head of the IAEA as saying. Grossi clarified that we are talking about specific parameters.
At the same time, according to him, both sides are convinced "that the creation of this zone is necessary." The director general of the agency intends to visit Kyiv soon, and then Russia.
МАГАТЭ начало переговоры с РФ и Украиной по зоне безопасности вокруг ЗАЭС
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Bondarev: how long will the preparation of those mobilized to participate in the special operation last
The preparation of citizens who fall under partial mobilization to participate in a special operation in Ukraine after being drafted will last more than a month. This was stated by Viktor Bondarev, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security.
“Of course, they won’t get there in a month. They will fall after a decision is made that yes, these people, these units are combat-ready, ”Bondarev said in an interview with the Vmeste-RF TV channel. “They [mobilized] must be called up, checked for health, equipped, sent for training, retraining, for coherence in the units. And only after the commission decides that yes, in fact, this unit, this military unit is able to fulfill the combat mission clearly and without losses, then they will be relocated to the front line, ”he specified.
Бондарев: сколько продлится подготовка мобилизованных для участия в спецоперации
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The Russians were advised not to wring their hands due to mobilization
If an arm is broken by accident, the delay from mobilization will be temporary, and if on purpose, the Russian will receive a criminal punishment. This statement was made by a human rights activist, director of the human rights organization "Conscript's School" Aleksey Tabalov.
“Deliberate self-injury will be regarded as an attempt to avoid mobilization. For this, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for punishment in the form of a fine, forced labor or imprisonment for up to two years, ”he said. His words are quoted by Lenta.Ru.
An accidental injury to a limb exempts from mobilization for a while. This will give a delay of up to six months.
On September 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization in Russia, writes MK.RU. Only those citizens who are in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the armed forces, have certain specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to military service, Nation News adds . The Federation Council approved the punishment for refusing to participate in hostilities - it provides for imprisonment for up to 10 years.
Tyumen residents who went to uncoordinated rallies will be the first to receive summons
Residents of Tyumen, who took part in an uncoordinated action against the partial mobilization introduced in Russia, risk being automatically enrolled in the ranks of participants in the special operation. Ilya Remeslo, a social activist and lawyer, writes in his telegram channel that such sanctions will be applied to protesters. The information was also confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies.
“Mobilization activities will be carried out in relation to participants in illegal rallies. Documents will be checked immediately on the spot, identify, detain and send to the police department. Then, with the participation of representatives of the military registration and enlistment office, the draft category will be determined. Those who do not fit in the first one will be registered for the next draft,” wrote Ilya Remeslo in his telegram channel.
The information was confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies. “Everyone who goes to the No Mobilization action will be sent to serve out of turn,” said an agency insider.
Источник: тюменцы, вышедшие на несогласованные митинги, получат повестки первыми
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DIY-HP-LED
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I wonder what the news will be in a month, especially if they have a huge disaster in Kherson. If that happens it will be a catastrophe for them that will make the Kharkiv operation pale in comparison for the damage it would do to their operational ability and morale.Psychologist Zhavnerov named a way to cope with stress against the background of mobilization
In order to survive stressful news and not succumb to panic, you need to analyze all the possible outcomes of events for you related to what is happening. Pavel Zhavnerov, a psychologist and specialist in anxiety disorders, spoke about this in an interview with URA.RU.
“If a person is generally calm, but this news unsettles him, here we must clearly understand that one of the areas of experience is plans for the future. When a person is faced with a certain amount of uncertainty, he does not know what awaits him in the future. Only negative scenarios of this future occur in his head, and he sees no other options. A person is worried and begins to believe in them. In order to be more calm about the future, you need to determine the areas you are worried about and paint, like in a movie, all possible scenarios for the development of events, from the worst to the most ideal,” said Pavel Zhavnerov.
The psychologist explained with an example how exactly you need to calm yourself. “I have a client, when he found out about the mobilization, he immediately wrote that he was worried that he would be called up and sent to the front. We discussed with him and painted all possible options. First, he will receive a summons, he will undergo a medical examination, he will be sent to the war zone. The second - he will pass the commission, but will be credited to the headquarters 100 km from this zone. We write everything, even those scripts where they will not be accepted for health reasons. Or he will come to the military registration and enlistment office, and the recruitment is finished. In the end, the agenda will not come or a letter with a voluntary appeal will come, ”the specialist noted.
Zhavnerov stressed that the ability to see all the outcomes will calm a person. “He prescribes all these scenarios, begins to see them. His belief in different outcomes begins to evenly distribute, and his confidence in the negative scenario begins to decline. A person begins to be more calm about the future and looks at the situation more adequately, ”added the interlocutor of URA.RU.
Психолог Жавнеров назвал способ справиться со стрессом на фоне мобилизации
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The IAEA started negotiations with the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the security zone around the ZNPP
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has begun negotiations with Ukraine and Russia on the parameters for creating a security zone around the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. This was stated at a briefing by the director general of the agency Rafael Grossi.
“We started with real negotiations about the parameters of the zone. This process is only with Ukraine and Russia,” RIA Novosti quoted the head of the IAEA as saying. Grossi clarified that we are talking about specific parameters.
At the same time, according to him, both sides are convinced "that the creation of this zone is necessary." The director general of the agency intends to visit Kyiv soon, and then Russia.
МАГАТЭ начало переговоры с РФ и Украиной по зоне безопасности вокруг ЗАЭС
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Bondarev: how long will the preparation of those mobilized to participate in the special operation last
The preparation of citizens who fall under partial mobilization to participate in a special operation in Ukraine after being drafted will last more than a month. This was stated by Viktor Bondarev, Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security.
“Of course, they won’t get there in a month. They will fall after a decision is made that yes, these people, these units are combat-ready, ”Bondarev said in an interview with the Vmeste-RF TV channel. “They [mobilized] must be called up, checked for health, equipped, sent for training, retraining, for coherence in the units. And only after the commission decides that yes, in fact, this unit, this military unit is able to fulfill the combat mission clearly and without losses, then they will be relocated to the front line, ”he specified.
Бондарев: сколько продлится подготовка мобилизованных для участия в спецоперации
Читайте на URA.RU
The Russians were advised not to wring their hands due to mobilization
If an arm is broken by accident, the delay from mobilization will be temporary, and if on purpose, the Russian will receive a criminal punishment. This statement was made by a human rights activist, director of the human rights organization "Conscript's School" Aleksey Tabalov.
“Deliberate self-injury will be regarded as an attempt to avoid mobilization. For this, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for punishment in the form of a fine, forced labor or imprisonment for up to two years, ”he said. His words are quoted by Lenta.Ru.
An accidental injury to a limb exempts from mobilization for a while. This will give a delay of up to six months.
On September 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization in Russia, writes MK.RU. Only those citizens who are in the reserve and, above all, those who served in the armed forces, have certain specialties and relevant experience, will be subject to military service, Nation News adds . The Federation Council approved the punishment for refusing to participate in hostilities - it provides for imprisonment for up to 10 years.
Tyumen residents who went to uncoordinated rallies will be the first to receive summons
Residents of Tyumen, who took part in an uncoordinated action against the partial mobilization introduced in Russia, risk being automatically enrolled in the ranks of participants in the special operation. Ilya Remeslo, a social activist and lawyer, writes in his telegram channel that such sanctions will be applied to protesters. The information was also confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies.
“Mobilization activities will be carried out in relation to participants in illegal rallies. Documents will be checked immediately on the spot, identify, detain and send to the police department. Then, with the participation of representatives of the military registration and enlistment office, the draft category will be determined. Those who do not fit in the first one will be registered for the next draft,” wrote Ilya Remeslo in his telegram channel.
The information was confirmed by a URA.RU source in law enforcement agencies. “Everyone who goes to the No Mobilization action will be sent to serve out of turn,” said an agency insider.
Источник: тюменцы, вышедшие на несогласованные митинги, получат повестки первыми
Читайте на URA.RU
DIY-HP-LED
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Update from Ukraine | We continue to Fight | Ruzzia will have more losses
xtsho
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Some of these guys just want to fight. Mercenaries.
DIY-HP-LED
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Live by the sword, die by the sword.
printer
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But they are fighting against the whole of Nato for the soul of Mother Russia.
captainmorgan
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DIY-HP-LED
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About what I figured, except as Russia goes into decline over the next few years, there could be opportunities to be had in the eastern Russian republics north of China and Mongolia. Those places might want out from under sanctions and China is close by once isolated places, there are time zones of virgin forest and minerals there.
Xi might wanna forget about Tiawan for a while, there's easy pickings to be had next door in Asia, he should follow the path of least resistance, China needs resources and markets more than Taiwan and tangling with Uncle Sam and his plentiful friends. That's the thing about autocracies like Russia and China, the don't have many friends and nobody trusts them, though China does better at PR than Russia.
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Xi might wanna forget about Tiawan for a while, there's easy pickings to be had next door in Asia, he should follow the path of least resistance, China needs resources and markets more than Taiwan and tangling with Uncle Sam and his plentiful friends. That's the thing about autocracies like Russia and China, the don't have many friends and nobody trusts them, though China does better at PR than Russia.
Putin’s losses in Asia are bigger than in Ukraine
A potentially more important setback to imperial Putinism is occurring in Central Asia.
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printer
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But you know that Russia and China will support each other in a UN vote. If Russia dissolves then China is going to feel a little lonely.About what I figured, except as Russia goes into decline over the next few years, there could be opportunities to be had in the eastern Russian republics north of China and Mongolia. Those places might want out from under sanctions and China is close by once isolated places, there are time zones of virgin forest and minerals there.
Xi might wanna forget about Tiawan for a while, there's easy pickings to be had next door in Asia, he should follow the path of least resistance, China needs resources and markets more than Taiwan and tangling with Uncle Sam and his plentiful friends. That's the thing about autocracies like Russia and China, the don't have many friends and nobody trusts them, though China does better at PR than Russia.
Putin’s losses in Asia are bigger than in Ukraine
A potentially more important setback to imperial Putinism is occurring in Central Asia.
captainmorgan
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Reports of a line of cars 35 km long at the Finnish border waiting to get out of Russia.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm surprised they still have that many planes in the air
DIY-HP-LED
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Jesus, there are getting to be as many Russian refugees as there are Ukrainian ones! They look like they are fleeing an attack by the Russian army!