New mandate for drunk driving detection in all vehicles

[Friendly_Grower]

Just curious as to the majority of peoples thoughts on the mandate included in Biden’s Trillion dollar Infrastructure package. It states that all new vehicles, starting sometime later this decade, will have passive drunk or impaired driving detection along with the ability to disable the vehicle. I don’t normally post or comment on political threads but I think things are really getting way out of control.

No one has a right to kill someone else.
If they are impaired and especially if they have a serial problem with intoxication then it is a societal issue that must be addressed.

personally if I am out going to the store do I deserve to die because of someone's intoxication?

 

[CunningCanuk]

Just curious as to the majority of peoples thoughts on the mandate included in Biden’s Trillion dollar Infrastructure package. It states that all new vehicles, starting sometime later this decade, will have passive drunk or impaired driving detection along with the ability to disable the vehicle. I don’t normally post or comment on political threads but I think things are really getting way out of control.

It looks to me that things are getting in control.

It’s a good thing the constitution was written before the invention of the automobile.

 

[CunningCanuk]

Oh I'm calm. I’m sure I’ll be long dead before it really has a chance of changing my life, I just think our country is going down the wrong path. I’m not worried about me, I’m worried about my grand kids.

Why? The roads will be safer for them?

 

[Hollatchaboy]

It doesn’t cut the ignition once driving, if the system sees any signs of impaired driving, the car will warn the driver. If the behavior continues, the car will turn on warning lights, slow down and move to the side of the road.

My guess is, it'll also contact an officer of the law, who will promptly come and arrest you, for driving under the influence.

 

[Drop That Sound]

I can see it now. Like the scene on the fifth element when Korben loses points on his license, and rips the unit out of the dash of his cab. lol!

 

[Drop That Sound]

Whether it comes down to an apocalyptic mad max world where people kill each other over a pint of alcohol, or a trans-humanistic cyberpunk metropolis like the fifth element (with autonomous AI drunk driving credit score linked systems), i'm pretty stoked for whoever gets to be around for it!

I hope they know how bad ass that is.

Life is too awesome

 

[hillbill]

About fucking time

 

[HGCC]

I dont support it, think it's overreaching. Not at all supporting drunk driving, but this isn't the way to combat it.

I'm down with self driving cars though, think that's going go be a game changer in many ways. Guess we will see what sort of rules and regulations come with it, will accept some crap if they can get it to work.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Well we know how well person responsibility works

 

[lusidghost]

I can't wait until self driving automobiles eliminates both drunk drivers and cops being able to pull people over for supposed driving infractions.

 

[Rob Roy]

Libertarians, as a class in US, correlate well with those who do not play well with others.

Not playing well with others would be the person (s) taking away their individual choices, no?

Why is it that Libertarians don't care if you live in a voluntary group with others as a socialist, communist, etc. or not as long as you don't impose it on others ? While statists of all stripes insist you live their way or the way "the ruler(s) has decided ?

Rhetorical question. You won't and can't answer, as it defeats your claim your above.

 

[hillbill]

People have a right to travel without worrying about some Sorry Ass trying to kill them.

 

[Drop That Sound]

People have a right to travel without worrying about some Sorry Ass trying to kill them.

You mean like hackers taking control over your vehicle's drunk driving detection system and shutting your vehicle down on the train tracks?

 

[lusidghost]

You mean like hackers taking control over your vehicle's drunk driving detection system and shutting your vehicle down on the train tracks?

That hacker is usually alcohol.

 

[Drop That Sound]

That would be pretty easy to do remotely, especially if the system is networked wirelessly..

 

[Paul Drake]

FIFY

Congressional Drunk Driver Detection Mandate Raises Privacy Questions | ACLU

The vague mandate leaves the door wide open for intrusion and the collection of sensitive data.

www.aclu.org

One more reason to ride motorcycles.

Ahhhh organ donors

 

[hanimmal]

1. Is this even actually a thing? Using some “vague” description of something that might one day be put in place that would get sued as a overreach by the auto manufacturers or whoever, is not really something that means It is actually even a thing that is happening.

2. People falling asleep/stroking out/drunk etc while driving is something that is easy to fix, why would it be a bad idea?

 

[cannabineer]

1. Is this even actually a thing? Using some “vague” description of something that might one day be put in place that would get sued as a overreach by the auto manufacturers or whoever, is not really something that means It is actually even a thing that is happening.

2. People falling asleep/stroking out/drunk etc while driving is something that is easy to fix, why would it be a bad idea?

I kept trying to get someone to plainly state “because freedom”. Naturally I didn’t say so expressly until now.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

you may be right, I can’t find a mention of bikes. Even if they go with camera recognition a helmet could easily block any real information gathered.

sunglasses and a Nixon mask....

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I have no trouble with systems that genuinely detect alcohol or other discretionary impairment.

But, as I move about in some pretty lonely country, I would not want to doubt my car if I really have to get home, or at least to Mos Eisley, way past bedtime.

The one thing I expressly dismiss is a libertarian argument. Libertarians, as a class in US, correlate well with those who do not play well with others.

i smoke weed...hard to believe, i know, but there you are...if i smoked weed yesterday, and am not imparied in any way now, how are they supposed to know WHEN i last indulged...and if i live in a place that it's still illegal, as i do...will my car report me to the authorities...i agree with Han, they'll never implement this without years of law suits stopping it from taking effect, and if it does pass the courts, it will be in a drastically altered form