War

[BudmanTX]

talk about a possible game changer.......ok real test, where are those russian ships and lets find those ammo dumps while we are at it....

 

[Moflow]

I wonder how big a warhead it carries

330 pound warhead

 

[Friendly_Grower]

Russia’s Effort to Avoid Default Undermined by New U.S. Sanction

• Measure intended to deplete Russia’s financial resources
• EU countries are also discussing option of further sanctions

I'm Russia and I HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK!? Don't I?

 

[BudmanTX]

time to get them what they need on the battle field....it's gonna turn into a mobile war now, gonna need 3 blocks, one from the south, one from the north, use Dnipro as a staging area....

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Russian ambassador to the UK Andrey Kelin said heavy artillery and anti-ship missiles that the Ministry of Defence has signalled it will ship to Ukraine could be targeted by Russian forces as they enter the country from the West.

Do it on Ukrainian soil if they can, most of their drones will be knocked out or jammed with gear Uncle Sam recently supplied and they will wait for a cloudy day when satellite coverage is down. If he strikes them on NATO turf he commits military suicide. If they could do it and had a plan to, he wouldn't have said a word. Moving targets are hard to hit without real time data or laser designation, stationary ones like oil storage depots are much easier for the Russians.

 

[cannabineer]

I saw a video of one of these being used in Ukraine while back, it's made by the same outfit that makes the switchblades. It is probably too not restricted technology, not much different than what some hobbyists could pull off in a much less sophisticated and effective form though! This is probably a lot cheaper than a switchblade and stays up a long time.
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Quantix™ Recon Unmanned Aircraft System

Difference 70 years make; this funky Dorito was a widowmaker.

 

[Budley Doright]

Difference 70 years make; this funky Dorito was a widowmaker.

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Looks like my Volvo out drive

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

330 pound warhead

Not enough to take out the bridge, but the Navy and shore installations defending it from small boat commando attack from inside the sea of Azov might be another matter They just need something big enough that can go the distance. Get rid of the navy and a fishing boat or small freighter filled with a few truck loads of ANFO could do it. The commando crew puts it on auto pilot or steers it remotely after bailing to a rubber boat miles away and the boat sails into a support, bang, use two or three if ya got em. Fertilizer is plentiful there and so is diesel. Make a boat or ship bomb several times the size of the one used in Oklahoma city, that was a half dozen barrels of ANFO, and it should do the job or a few can! Those missiles could be useful for taking out that bridge after all, by getting rid of the ships defending it.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Russian ambassador to the UK Andrey Kelin said heavy artillery and anti-ship missiles that the Ministry of Defence has signalled it will ship to Ukraine could be targeted by Russian forces as they enter the country from the West.

Ukraine has borders with Hungary, Poland, Moldova, Romania and Slovakia...russia can watch that much border, and reach it effectively?
i don't think the Hungarians are on board to help Ukraine, and i'm not sure about Slovakia, but the border with Poland is a long way from russia...just make it very very clear to the russians that if one missile lands on Poland, 100 will land on russia...

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

time to get them what they need on the battle field....it's gonna turn into a mobile war now, gonna need 3 blocks, one from the south, one from the north, use Dnipro as a staging area....

Hit them in the south before they are ready in the east and it will draw forces away as they will want back into Crimea and get their supplies from there, just control the roads out of there or put them in artillery range and supplies are cut off for the Russians in the entire south as far as Mariupol in the east. I figure an attack in the Kherson area first, where ever there's a bridge to get across the river. If they can get across the Dnieper river there, they can threaten the whole southern Russian front and relieve Mariupol somewhat too by drawing forces away as they scramble west. Now that they dove them out in the north, the regulars can move on while the reserves mop up and hold ground from defensive positions. I expect the forces freed up, won't be sitting on their asses waiting for Russians.

 

[BudmanTX]

Hit them in the south before they are ready in the east and it will draw forces away as they will want back into Crimea and get their supplies from there, just control the roads out of there or put them in artillery range and supplies are cut off for the Russians in the entire south as far as Mariupol in the east. I figure an attack in the Kherson area first, where ever there's a bridge to get across the river. If they can get across the Dnieper river there, they can threaten the whole southern Russian front and relieve Mariupol somewhat too by drawing forces away as they scramble west. Now that they dove them out in the north, the regulars can move on while the reserves mop up and hold ground from defensive positions. I expect the forces freed up, won't be sitting on their asses waiting for Russians.

ok, what are you gonna do about the push from Kharkiv region......can't turn your back to that, cause i think the first start we'll be from there...imo

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

ok, what are you gonna do about the push from Kharkiv region......can't turn your back to that, cause i think the first start we'll be from there...imo

Oh I agree Kharkov is their northern anchor. Let them attack down roads mined with IEDs and ambushes every mile, through your reserves in hiding, who will be at their backs when the front passes through and busy at night. Get them tied up on the roads in stopped columns and destroy them with drones and long range artillery. Put up a token resistance at the front when they start their drive, pull back to secondary positions when they pound the front ones with artillery, then move back in, melt away and draw them into a series to traps along the highway to perdition. DON'T try and stop their advance in open battle, trade space for time and get them as far as you can from their supply bases, before counter attacking everywhere at one, in the front, the flanks and in the rear, using reserves to block roads in built up areas.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

time to get them what they need on the battle field....it's gonna turn into a mobile war now, gonna need 3 blocks, one from the south, one from the north, use Dnipro as a staging area....

That won't happen until a few weeks, it will take Vlad awhile to line up his ducks and that gives the Ukrainians time. It's what they don't mention that is interesting, a breakthrough around Kherson and taking a bridge with switchblades and commandos. Kherson is closer for logistics and an attack there would cause those forces to the east to retreat back, or a lot of them, so much for Mariupol and their southern pincer movement. They might do this while waiting for tanks from NATO and use what they have now to do it now, while Vlad is getting ready in the east for his big drive. At least bottleneck them in Crimea and a small force can hold what ever is there from coming out. If they can cut off the entire southern front it will relieve the east and make liberating Mariupol much easier while keeping the Russians west of it bottled up without resupply.

So the generals focus on TV has been in the east and the coming struggle there in the next few weeks, their silence on other matters could be reveling, the retired generals are on the team too and now Ukraine's biggest cheerleaders.

 

[BudmanTX]

That won't happen until a few weeks, it will take Vlad awhile to line up his ducks and that gives the Ukrainians time. It's what they don't mention that is interesting, a breakthrough around Kherson and taking a bridge with switchblades and commandos. Kherson is closer for logistics and an attack there would cause those forces to the east to retreat back, or a lot of them, so much for Mariupol and their southern pincer movement. They might do this while waiting for tanks from NATO and use what they have now to do it now, while Vlad is getting ready in the east for his big drive. At least bottleneck them in Crimea and a small force can hold what ever is there from coming out. If they can cut off the entire southern front it will relieve the east and make liberating Mariupol much easier while keeping the Russians west of it bottled up without resupply.

So the generals focus on TV has been in the east and the coming struggle there in the next few weeks, their silence on other matters could be reveling, the retired generals are on the team too and now Ukraine's biggest cheerleaders.

you can use Kherson too for that push in the south, but imo if you wanna make a stop use Dnipro for logistics as well this will help with the Khavkiv and Mariupol fronts, then you can setup the city just south as another logistics hub and it just north of Mariupol.....

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

If the Ukrainians can take the south or even a part of it by relieving Mariupol, it puts the bridge over the Kerch connecting Crimea to Russia with in possible striking distance. If they destroy that rail and road bridge the entire southern front will be cut off from resupply and they can't get their equipment out of Crimea back to Russia if they have to retreat. So a drive on Mariupol and destroying the bridge to Crimea across the sea of Azov could starve the entire southern front from resupply. They would be trapped in the south and in Crimea. This could free up a lot of manpower and resources for the fight in the east, when it happens in earnest. There are many strategic possibilities, but one thing is for sure, they won't wait for the Russians in some places, they will go to them. The old soviet tanks are on the way from NATO and Russia is providing more everyday.

 

[BudmanTX]

well well well.......looks like more Nato applications coming ........

this one i can see happening...

If Finland and Sweden apply to join NATO, they would be welcomed, Stoltenberg says

NATO allies would welcome Finland and Sweden into the alliance if they decided to join but any such move is up to the two nations, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

these two...i'm on the fence...they gotta a lot of work to do from the 90's

Kosovo, Bosnia call for NATO membership as war rages in Ukraine

Kosovo’s president and Bosnia’s defence minister share their concerns about regional security and Moscow ally Serbia.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

you can use Kherson too for that push in the south, but imo if you wanna make a stop use Dnipro for logistics as well this will help with the Khavkiv and Mariupol fronts, then you can setup the city just south as another logistics hub and it just north of Mariupol.....

The Russians should be drone blind soon in some areas with Sammy's help, a threatening attack on Kherson could draw forces to the west to meet it, meanwhile the main thrust will be on Mariupol to anchor the southern defense in the east, attack the Kerch bridge and cut the entire Russian southern front off from resupply and trap their equipment at least in the south, when they have to retreat, they can either burn it or leave it for the Ukrainians, as they try and scramble out to Russia by boat and air.

 

[Polly Wog]

Is potato.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

well well well.......looks like more Nato applications coming ........

this one i can see happening...

If Finland and Sweden apply to join NATO, they would be welcomed, Stoltenberg says

NATO allies would welcome Finland and Sweden into the alliance if they decided to join but any such move is up to the two nations, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

these two...i'm on the fence...they gotta a lot of work to do from the 90's

Kosovo, Bosnia call for NATO membership as war rages in Ukraine

Kosovo’s president and Bosnia’s defence minister share their concerns about regional security and Moscow ally Serbia.

www.aljazeera.com

They don't border Russia and can wait, Sweden and Finland are good to go right away, they are peers or near peers and have been training and integrating communications with NATO for awhile now, NATO buys weapons from them and they make good ones too. The NATO reluctance in Ukraine helped a lot, so did Russian weakness and aggression.

 

[BudmanTX]

They don't border Russia and can wait, Sweden and Finland are good to go right away, they are peers or near peers and have been training and integrating communications with NATO for awhile now, NATO buys weapons from them and they make good ones too. The NATO reluctance in Ukraine helped a lot, so did Russian weakness and aggression.

if your talking about Bosnia and Kosovo...they have a common enemy....Serbia, so if the Serbs attack anyone..they're done for....i don't see they're integration happening anytime soon though