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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
These will come in handy, if they can use them, Russia just stole an entire fleet of leased western aircraft. They make them and would have parts, besides they destroyed that big Ukrainian cargo plane. As they increase territory and AA defense, they should be able to have low level air corridors inside the country, or use them to fly tons of shit into Poland donated from around the world. Some countries would fill several of them with useful things, if they came and picked it up. Make it easy to donate and they will get more material aid and picking it up saves them a lot of trouble, especially for private charities and such.
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12 Russian An-124 aircraft captured by Ukrainian air force!

 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Key lessons from the Ukraine conflict about conventional warfare

The Ukrainian military’s use of weapons systems and tactics on top of Russia’s tactical failures have allowed Ukraine to outperform the more powerful Russian military.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
It depends on who they are, technically under law they are not POWs, there was no declared war, they are criminals. However good terms of surrender will be taken up by the innocent more than by the guilty, they know what they did. It's cheaper to cut them off and take prisoners than to kill them, besides live prisoners talk and change their minds, the dead are silent and that's how Vlad wants it.

There were Chechen mercenaries in the area I believe and earlier there were many of them slaughtered in the area, seems their style. I'm pretty sure that army is being destroyed in the north west, as they are attempting an orderly retreat north. These guys are worse moving back than forward and will pay for it.
If Chechens were in the area,case solved,they are vile sub-human savages,absolutely moraless and akin to the barbarians who attacked Rome
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
It will raise the price of peace, gives Zelenskiy a stronger position and western arms will pour in just as they need them for large offensive operations. They've been preparing the army for it and training new troops for over a month, now they will get the arms, logistical and technical support to go the final mile. People in the west are pissed and will bless anything the governments want to send to Ukraine to kill Russians.

I understand those who did it are beating a hasty retreat after getting beat nearly to death, they nearly broke and ran. I understand from some reports and speculation by experts that the Russians are worse at retreat than advancing, retreat is harder. Ukrainian special forces should be blowing up highway brides to the north, trapping the Russian vehicles at least, the troops can scramble across the remains of the bridge after abandoning their vehicles in panic. Assuming Ukrainians in their rear can press them enough on mined roads they left behind. They might be stupid enough not to destroy their tanks and APCs when they run for the bridge as artillery rains down on their columns, just to motivate them for instance.

The Ukrainians can get even more Russian equipment and supplies, while the Russians march the next 20 or 50 miles of highway getting picked off by anything the Ukrainians can throw at them. Retreating troops in columns on the roads are very vulnerable in a disorganized retreat, they pack up their AA defenses and anti drone stuff and put it on the road too. Helicopters with special forces flying in low to blow bridges is much easier, if they can hit inside Russia with choppers, they can move special forces to within striking distance of bridges. A few switch blade 300hundreds could take care of sentries and machine gun nests guarding it or mortars could too, then they move in and blow up the bridge, or hold it against all comers.
These atrocities will fill the Ukiranians w/a fierce resolve,I harken back to the attack on Pearl Harbor,The Japanese staff were celebrating,all smiles at the results,except for their commander Yamamoto,who sat silently w/a stern look on his face.He broke his silence saying that the attack occurred before Japanese diplomats informed the US that Japan had declared war(making it a sneak attack),"I cannot think of anything that would infuriate the American's more,I fear we have awakened a dragon and filled it fierce resolve",and then Yamamoto walked out of the room and stared at the empty sea.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
It seems to me that the Nazis when they ran roughshod over Russia initially and committed untold of atrocities planted a seed in the Russian military,the war in the East was filled w/cruelty and the Russians exacted retribution when the tide turned raping and pillaging all of Germany and since then that has become a staple of the Russian military to this day in the way they operate,they might as well clip a symbolic SS pin on their collars as their tactics are a mirror image.
 

CCGNZ

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With the atrocities coming out it ain't hard to understand why grandma who saw her son get shot, might just serve up something special to the Russians, many can speak Russian in Ukraine. Poison is the prefered weapon of women and leverages their skill and trust! I'm sure the Russians came back, but she wisely moved on, I hope! Fight for your country with a broken beer bottle, if that's all ya got, anything that kills them goes if you are a civilian witnessing atrocities and war crimes daily.
Sunflower seeds,w/a special flavored coating for all
 

DIY-HP-LED

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In a few weeks the Ukrainians will be ready for the Russians in the east, masses of troops and tanks won't work too well with modern technology, the right weapons and plan to meet the thrust. The Ukrainians might allow them to attack and fall back while inflicting heavy losses on them, then counter attack them and break trough, it happens a lot in war and is a common plan. I'm sure the Ukrainians and NATO have a pretty good idea of what they are up to and have something painful planned. They might try to strike the Russians as they arrive in the east by drone or even helicopter, taking out trains bringing troops and supplies, even inside Russia.
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Ukraine War: Russia set to launch 'concentrated offensive' on Donbas

 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Ukrainians make their own anti tank rockets and they use a big screen to show the target and this guy filmed his during an attack on a helicopter that looked like it was hunting them! It was probably local reserves, they carry phones, but I don't think the regular troops carry them, all the footage has been from reserve units deployed locally. Regular army troops move around to different fronts attacking and they don't want the Russians to know where they are, so no phones in a war zone for the regular army. Local reservists don't go anywhere usually and if they had to, they might leave their phones behind too.
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Ukraine War - Ukrainian Forces Shoot Down Russian Helicopter With STUGNA-P ATGM System

Ukrainian forces managed to shoot down a Russian attack helicopter with a STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missile system in Ukraine.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It's almost as if Biden would have stood up to this clown it would be a different situation. Come on man. Ukraine helped him out with Hunter, he should help out Ukraine. I wonder if the Keystone pipeline would help? Could we export oil and natural gas if it was running? Yes, yes we could.
Always with the laptop. Talk to me about the 7:37.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I saw a video of one of these being used in Ukraine while back, it's made by the same outfit that makes the switchblades. It is probably too not restricted technology, not much different than what some hobbyists could pull off in a much less sophisticated and effective form though! This is probably a lot cheaper than a switchblade and stays up a long time.
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Quantix™ Recon Unmanned Aircraft System
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They could reach out and touch the Russians with that! Why waste the test on a target, when there are so many Russians to practice on? :lol:

The British are giving them anti ship missiles too, but they might be shorter range. If these pack a big enough punch and say they can laser designate them, enough of them might be able to take out the rail and road bridge at Kerch, Choking off Russian supplies to Crimea and trapping those there from escaping by land, at least with their equipment! These missiles can accurately target things from 300km out using a drone to target it using a laser. A bridge shouldn't be hard to hit accurately, like right on a support beam, it isn't moving anywhere! I wonder how big a warhead it carries, some are 1000 lb or larger, but these don't look too big, however each launcher appears to carry four of them and enough hitting accurately repeatedly, might do the job of destroying the bridge.

If they could take the coast anywhere on the sea of Azov, they could try to take out the bridge. They could also attack it using small boats and commandos and use the missiles from shore to destroy the Russian navy, who would get in the way. So if the Russians lose the coast, they risk losing the Bridge at Kerch, that was one of Putin's big projects and he won't like it, the Russian Army will like it a lot less.

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injinji

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. . . . . . . . . . . I wonder if the Keystone pipeline would help? Could we export oil and natural gas if it was running? Yes, yes we could.
Oh, you are Canadian. But yes, in 7 or 8 years when it was set to be completed, it would have carried more of you guys' tar sands oil to the market in China. My own belief is that you guys (Canada) can find your own way to market without threatening our ground water.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Oh, you are Canadian. But yes, in 7 or 8 years when it was set to be completed, it would have carried more of you guys' tar sands oil to the market in China. My own belief is that you guys (Canada) can find your own way to market without threatening our ground water.
Just people in Albertastan worry about Keystone, leave the fucking stuff in the ground like coal and go green new grid with steadily increasing renewable and energy storage. This bullshit war will drive it in Europe for sure and most cars there will be EVs in a decade and probably trucks too, using trolley like pantographs to recharge batteries on the fly, several systems are under test now in Europe and it seems to work well from all angles. Half the cars or more in North America might be EV's in a decade, an EV is a perfect second car for a couple driving into the city from the burbs to work, recharge it at home overnight to top it up.
 

Moflow

Well-Known Member
The British are giving them anti ship missiles too
Russian ambassador to the UK Andrey Kelin said heavy artillery and anti-ship missiles that the Ministry of Defence has signalled it will ship to Ukraine could be targeted by Russian forces as they enter the country from the West.
 
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