Ph lockout?

LeastExpectedGrower

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If you do suspect lockout, I'd start by checking runoff EC/PPM. If it's sky high then it's worth following through on that angle.

I personally wouldn't worry about the pH of the runoff, but the PPM you're seeing. If from there it ends up being the right diagnosis, time to push a whole lot of water through the soil to see if you can drop that. And if I suspected it was tied to pH, just make sure the water you're pouring through is pH'ed well (I'd personally aim right for 6.5 with a soil grow).
 

myke

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She's only fed once at 1/4 strength,water is filtered and pHed to 7.5
This isnt an over feed,no burnt tips.
Calcium, either just a deficiency or ph to low/high.
All plants showing same,
Not uncommon for bagged soil to be really low in pH.Hard corrections are sometimes needed,feed around 9-11 ph just to get it to raise.

Id be interested to here what @DoubleAtotheRON says.
 

Anxiousgrowerwoman

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She's only fed once at 1/4 strength,water is filtered and pHed to 7.5
This isnt an over feed,no burnt tips.
Calcium, either just a deficiency or ph to low/high.
All plants showing same,
Not uncommon for bagged soil to be really low in pH.Hard corrections are sometimes needed,feed around 9-11 ph just to get it to raise.

Id be interested to here what @DoubleAtotheRON says.
Im not sure how plausable this is, but i have read that sometimes water has micro nutes in it that can force the water to low, im suspecting that.... tpday is day 26 of flower and im suoer unhappy and unshere where to go....
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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She's only fed once at 1/4 strength,water is filtered and pHed to 7.5
This isnt an over feed,no burnt tips.
Calcium, either just a deficiency or ph to low/high.
All plants showing same,
Not uncommon for bagged soil to be really low in pH.Hard corrections are sometimes needed,feed around 9-11 ph just to get it to raise.

Id be interested to here what @DoubleAtotheRON says.
I have definitely stabbed bags of soil and found low 5’s is pretty common. My advise is to find out what your true root zone PH is. Only way to do that is with a proper tool. Then you can see what you need to do to correct. You may find you’re at 5.3, and need to flush it at 3 times the volume of the pot at 10.5 ph, check it again, and re-feed.
 

mudballs

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I dont belive im over feeding. I fear that the hard water i have is so how bringing my ph down after i have balanced it out. I ph balanced all my water and watered them, i cam back and rechecked my last water container and it had dripped to 5.3 as well. After beiing brought up to 7.2
Tell us more about this? Accurate timeframe on that rapid pH change? Is it like this every time?
 

Anxiousgrowerwoman

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just breath your fine, lets just get this grow finished, we always learn from our mistakes
My dude is so irritated he wants to give up on growing... we are deff beginners but this is my 5th grow and everything is going wrong and we dont understany why.... it would be one thing if i knew what was happening. We phed 5 jugs of water to 7.2 and watered, when he retested thr water he had just used it had dropped to 5 too! I dont understand why!
 

Anxiousgrowerwoman

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We have been
Tell us more about this? Accurate timeframe on that rapid pH change? Is it like this every time?
struggling since it stopped raining, we usually collect water and use that, but we have had to have thisnhauled. It tests nearñy 8ph out of the tap, but it frops for no reason that i can tell... im dumbfounded
 

mudballs

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We have been
struggling since it stopped raining, we usually collect water and use that, but we have had to have thisnhauled. It tests nearñy 8ph out of the tap, but it frops for no reason that i can tell... im dumbfounded
Tell us the order you mix your nutes...this pH drop is gonna be the core of the issue ur seeing and we just need to decipher what's happening chemically.
 

harrychilds

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It did not. Its only hitting the lagest fan leafs it started with the top leafs on #6...
Boron is a mobile nutrient and if it didn't start from the bottom and move upwards then it cannot be a boron deficiency. It could be Root rot, are you in soil or coco? If you're in soil then it could be an even bigger possibility of root rot because coco is almost impossible to overwater
 

mudballs

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There was no food in that watering. Just ph down to 7.2.....
So wait...you bring on outsourced water thats 8.0pH then you pH down to 7.2...then it crashes to 5pH? ...ok but how fast does that happen. That could be important info we need...very fast drop can mean thing...very slow drop means another
Edit,ah ok saw post hmmm
 
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