What has Trump done to this country?

DIY-HP-LED

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At least 5 of Vice President Pence's aides test positive for coronavirus

(CNN)At least five people in Vice President Mike Pence's orbit have tested positive for coronavirus in recent days, including chief of staff Marc Short, close aide Zach Bauer and outside adviser Marty Obst, sources told CNN.

There are concerns that more people within Pence's inner circle will test positive in the coming days, a source said. "They're scared," the source said of staffers in the vice president's office.

Vice President Mike Pence and second lady Karen Pence each tested negative for coronavirus on Sunday, a White House official said. Despite contact with multiple people who recently tested positive, Mike Pence is refusing to quarantine in defiance of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines.

Pence's office announced Saturday evening that Short had been diagnosed with Covid-19. Sources told CNN that Obst, who is a senior political adviser to Pence but is not a government employee, and at least three staffers in Pence's office have also tested positive for the virus.

Bauer, one of the staffers who tested positive, according to two sources familiar with the matter, is Pence's "body man," meaning his job is to accompany Pence throughout the day and night helping him with a wide range of duties, putting him in close proximity to the vice president. A source familiar with the matter told CNN that Bauer has not been in the office since Tuesday, when he went home to quarantine after coming into contact with Obst. Bauer tested positive Saturday.

Besides announcing the positive test for Short, the vice president's office would not comment on the identities of the Pence aides who tested positive for the virus in recent days or confirm the number of aides. The New York Times was the first to report on the Pence aides.

During an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows refused to disclose the extent of the Covid-19 outbreak in Pence's orbit, and he said Pence will be wearing a mask and social distancing when he resumes campaign travel Sunday despite his direct exposure to the virus.

"Sharing personal information is not something that we should do," Meadows told CNN's Jake Tapper. Meadows said such disclosures are only appropriate in the case of President Donald Trump, the vice president or those in their inner circle.

"Anytime there's someone in harm's way, we have an obligation to let people know for contract-tracing," Meadows said.
Pence -- who is the head of the White House's coronavirus task force -- plans to continue traveling and campaigning every day in the final stretch to Election Day, an official told CNN.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is not a good thing. We need more than one party.
You'll have one or even two, the republican party has been poisoned for a decade and their brand destroyed with a generation. I believe an American conservative party will arise, a moderate rightwing party formed from the Lincoln Project and other moderate republican groups. These schisms usually occur along geographic lines starting with a region of the country, the republican party has not yet reached peak crazy yet, that happens with Qnon. Splitting the right keeps them out of power for a decade and perhaps the republicans forever. The penalty of death should apply to any political party that commits treason or mass murders it's own citizens. Power abhors a vacuum and alternatives will quickly be found, many thought the third party would come from the left, but I think the right is more likely.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Did you watch 60 Minutes last night? He dropped off the “health plan” to Leslie Stahl.

I heard it’s incredible. The best health plan in the history of the world. Like no ones ever seen before. It’s beautiful!
It was a big thick prop thrown together in a rush, he should have just copied Obama's pandemic playbook, this was just some executive orders and a pile of junk. Perception is important, not reality, it was important that it be thick and heavy for the cameras, not that it contain anything. Donald micro manages these sorts of things, a gimmick as a distraction from running away from the interview because of a demand for facts and accountability. Smoke and mirrors for morons.

8 Days to go and Donald is going flat out with super spreader events, if Pence was febrile and crawling with covid Trump would have him propped up on a stage at a super spreader rally. Donald is desperate and you'll see the snake wiggle and squirm, if he loses the election the snake will strike at the American public where ever he can. Look for a lot of regular government people to be fired as Donald decapitates the DOJ, FBI, CIA and does his best to trash the federal government. Never corner a rat and after November America might have the biggest and most dangerous cornered rat of all time.
 

schuylaar

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It will be interesting in how they move forward and rebuild. A good 2-3 elections in a row of not having power to let the Democrats fix their mess should be a good enough time out IMO.
but then came Amy Coney Barrett.

the religious don't like the fringe religious so i see 'fast times at SCOTUS high'.

every Amy i ever knew in my life had red hair and was crazy- so fitting.

 
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CunningCanuk

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It was a big thick prop thrown together in a rush, he should have just copied Obama's pandemic playbook, this was just some executive orders and a pile of junk. Perception is important, not reality, it was important that it be thick and heavy for the cameras, not that it contain anything. Donald micro manages these sorts of things, a gimmick as a distraction from running away from the interview because of a demand for facts and accountability. Smoke and mirrors for morons.

8 Days to go and Donald is going flat out with super spreader events, if Pence was febrile and crawling with covid Trump would have him propped up on a stage at a super spreader rally. Donald is desperate and you'll see the snake wiggle and squirm, if he loses the election the snake will strike at the American public where ever he can. Look for a lot of regular government people to be fired as Donald decapitates the DOJ, FBI, CIA and does his best to trash the federal government. Never corner a rat and after November America might have the biggest and most dangerous cornered rat of all time.
I think it was blank.
 

topcat

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It will be interesting in how they move forward and rebuild. A good 2-3 elections in a row of not having power to let the Democrats fix their mess should be a good enough time out IMO.
I see a real possibility of 4 parties dividing the electorate. Two liberal, two conservative, different degrees of each.
 

hanimmal

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Maybe, but that brew of hatred they live on can be addicting.

We'll see.
Maybe that would be a good government initiative that can be spent on predominantly white males who feel so left out. Anti-discrimination mental healthcare programs all of these people getting radicalized by Trump and his troll army are going to be like cult members who lose their leader.

I see a divided America and potential large scale violence.
I hope not, but we will see. Crazy times.

I see a real possibility of 4 parties dividing the electorate. Two liberal, two conservative, different degrees of each.
It would be interesting, I have been hearing about it for years.

At this point though it should be more about getting highly qualified good people in office regardless of political party (once the Republicans shake off the last decade of being trolls in DC).
 
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