What has Trump done to this country?

DIY-HP-LED

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Good morning & have a great fucking day :)


We'll overcome Trump/COVID-19, we know this, right?
:)
The polls say Trump is done and science says there is hope for covid, more importantly there will be treatments and vaccines. Most important of all there will be responsible government and national public health measures to reduce the spread. Keep the faith , vote and get others to as well! If Trump is losing in your state, pile on, add to the humiliation and repudiation, the popular vote counts towards a mandate too, it's the best poll of all.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Jimdamick

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Just an addendum to this fucked up thread.

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This is America today.
We hate each other
No more hiding or ducking or shying away from the fact that we as a Nation, are literally dying/killing each other as a result of Trump
Your a Republican?
You deserve to die
Your a Democrate?
You deserve to die.
Jesus. Mary & fucking Joseph, how can one simple, albeit charismatic individual fucking destroy this/our/my World?
Why didn't/wasn't he stopped?
November 3rd, 2020 actually means shit now, the damage is irreversible.
So sorry, but the horse has left the fucking gate & there really is no going back now I'm afraid.
 
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Budley Doright

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Just an addendum to this fucked up thread.

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This is America today.
We hate each other
No more hiding or ducking or shying away from the fact that we as a Nation, are literally dying/killing each other as a result of Trump
Your a Republican?
You deserve to die
Your a Democrate?
You deserve to die.
Jesus. Mary & fucking Joseph, how can one simple, albeit charismatic individual fucking destroy this/our/my World?
Why didn't/wasn't he stopped?
November 3rd, 2020 actually means shit now, the damage is irreversible.
So sorry, but the horse has left the fucking gate & there really is no going back now I'm afraid.
I’m afraid your mostly correct BUT, if your nation (the deplorables and brainwashed) wakes up to what he has done to not only your citizens but the world then that’s the first step in redemption. I think the struggle to right the course of your nation is first the election, then showing the true colours of this asshat and is family once his immunity is gone, in a court of justice.
 

Budley Doright

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We made it through the civil war and healed, the confederate losers are trying to do it again after 150 + years, need to send them back under their rocks again.
I’m not sure them hiding is a great solution but I get it. Not sure of the best way to deal with the issues. One problem is you guys have armed (to the teeth) every fucking nut out there. But yes there is that “all encompassing” amendment :(. I dread that the week after Election Day will define your course :(.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just an addendum to this fucked up thread.

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This is America today.
We hate each other
No more hiding or ducking or shying away from the fact that we as a Nation, are literally dying/killing each other as a result of Trump
Your a Republican?
You deserve to die
Your a Democrate?
You deserve to die.
Jesus. Mary & fucking Joseph, how can one simple, albeit charismatic individual fucking destroy this/our/my World?
Why didn't/wasn't he stopped?
November 3rd, 2020 actually means shit now, the damage is irreversible.
So sorry, but the horse has left the fucking gate & there really is no going back now I'm afraid.
The past sometimes goes down swinging James, change is painful and this is that pain. Mostly female liberal teachers will teach this history to a generation of school kids, what will the narrative be? The republican brand and Trumpism are about to be repudiated, if the polls are accurate and America should move forward. Sure you will still have racist who will sell you out over hate, but they will be broken, scattered and under attack. The 2022 republican party will be the Qnon party, filled with racist lunatics who will vomit up unelectable morons.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is a discussion by the guys who run 538 about the election polling models, get a look behind the statistics.
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Model Talk: Trump's Position Worsens l FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast

In this installment of Model Talk, Nate Silver and Galen Druke discuss the latests movements in the 2020 election forecasts.
 

Jimdamick

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Just an addendum to this fucked up thread.

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This is America today.
We hate each other
No more hiding or ducking or shying away from the fact that we as a Nation, are literally dying/killing each other as a result of Trump
Your a Republican?
You deserve to die
Your a Democrate?
You deserve to die.
Jesus. Mary & fucking Joseph, how can one simple, albeit charismatic individual fucking destroy this/our/my World?
Why didn't/wasn't he stopped?
November 3rd, 2020 actually means shit now, the damage is irreversible.
So sorry, but the horse has left the fucking gate & there really is no going back now I'm afraid.

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DIY-HP-LED

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The violence and acting out on the part of the Trumpers is anger, people get angry when they figure they are holding the shit end of life's stick, when their desires have been thwarted. Expect more acting out and violence as it sinks in they are losers, I think it will be sporadic and emotionally driven with no overall plan, random violence.
 

Fogdog

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Here is a discussion by the guys who run 538 about the election polling models, get a look behind the statistics.
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Model Talk: Trump's Position Worsens l FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast

In this installment of Model Talk, Nate Silver and Galen Druke discuss the latests movements in the 2020 election forecasts.
Their (538) model has been better in past elections than the ones that news outlets produce. It's worth paying attention to as opposed to Huffington Post's, a site that is biased as all hell. I mean, why would you want to read what a strongly biased news outlet puts up? They have also done better than less biased sites, such as Politico and NYT. Their forecast is credible based upon past performance and relies on sources that they back-test for accuracy from past elections. They weight opinion polls from various outlets based upon past performance and methodology. They also aggregate polling results from various and use a time weighted average to reduce errors. They also use state polling data in their forecast for the presidential election because electoral college is driven by state results and not a national one. This is all to say that they are about as good at forecasting elections as any and better than most.

The bit that I found most interesting was, if the election were to be held today, based upon state polling data, Trump would have only a 5% chance of winning. On their site, they post Trump has a 15% chance of winning. So, 2/3 of uncertainty is due to fudge factors injected into the model's outcome due to time before the election. We are only a few weeks away from finally holding the election. Given how stable opinion (bad) on Trump has been throughout his presidency and short term trends that show Trump is failing, I find the 5% odds for Trump to be more representative of what will happen than the official one they post. 15% chance of winning is awful. 5% chance of Trump winning is a lock for Biden. Trump is going to lose in November.

The fascist Republican Party that is of, by, and for Trump is given a 30% chance of winning the Senate this year. How much of this number is due to the time remaining before the election? Is it 2/3 as well? That would make it only a 10% chance the we'll have to listen to Moscow Mitch in his role as Senate Majority Leader next year.

It all comes down to how much the fascists manage to do to suppress and rig the vote count. I don't think they can overcome such large odds through cheating but we all know that Trump treats rules and laws as things that are for others to follow. They can't win honestly. So they will cheat.

It's going to be a horrendous lead-up to this election. I do hope that people leave their guns at home when they go out to protest rallies and especially when they go out to vote. We need no more scenes like what happened in Denver this weekend.
 

MickFoster

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I just read an article that the GOP is illegally placing fake ballot boxes in California.
Are they that stupid that they would pick California to do this?
They're going to need a shitload of fake boxes if they intend to turn California red.
Dumbasses.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Their (538) model has been better in past elections than the ones that news outlets produce. It's worth paying attention to as opposed to Huffington Post's, a site that is biased as all hell. I mean, why would you want to read what a strongly biased news outlet puts up? They have also done better than less biased sites, such as Politico and NYT. Their forecast is credible based upon past performance and relies on sources that they back-test for accuracy from past elections. They weight opinion polls from various outlets based upon past performance and methodology. They also aggregate polling results from various and use a time weighted average to reduce errors. They also use state polling data in their forecast for the presidential election because electoral college is driven by state results and not a national one. This is all to say that they are about as good at forecasting elections as any and better than most.

The bit that I found most interesting was, if the election were to be held today, based upon state polling data, Trump would have only a 5% chance of winning. On their site, they post Trump has a 15% chance of winning. So, 2/3 of uncertainty is due to fudge factors injected into the model's outcome due to time before the election. We are only a few weeks away from finally holding the election. Given how stable opinion (bad) on Trump has been throughout his presidency and short term trends that show Trump is failing, I find the 5% odds for Trump to be more representative of what will happen than the official one they post. 15% chance of winning is awful. 5% chance of Trump winning is a lock for Biden. Trump is going to lose in November.

The fascist Republican Party that is of, by, and for Trump is given a 30% chance of winning the Senate this year. How much of this number is due to the time remaining before the election? Is it 2/3 as well? That would make it only a 10% chance the we'll have to listen to Moscow Mitch in his role as Senate Majority Leader next year.

It all comes down to how much the fascists manage to do to suppress and rig the vote count. I don't think they can overcome such large odds through cheating but we all know that Trump treats rules and laws as things that are for others to follow. They can't win honestly. So they will cheat.

It's going to be a horrendous lead-up to this election. I do hope that people leave their guns at home when they go out to protest rallies and especially when they go out to vote. We need no more scenes like what happened in Denver this weekend.
I go to their site and found the voodoo behind the models interesting, I thought there would be more statistics and less assumptions! Nate knows what he is talking about, he called it last time and seems to have some insights. The difference this time is Trump and covid, it is a novel situation and the models may break down, it's still art as much as science.
 
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