What has Trump done to this country?

Fogdog

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What system are you speaking of.
The motherfucker wants to come to my state tomorrow!
The governor is Trump jr.
There are battles here that are splitting families, friends and towns.
You just don’t get it.
This ain’t a joke or even an issue to be cavalier about.
Honestly I appreciate your support of Biden but you’ve got no skin in the game or dog in the fight.
Canadians have never had to go thru what Americans have.
I think his point is that the election is so lopsided that officials in your state will be afraid to get caught tampering.

DIY also doesn't know much about Florida. My dad grew up in Mississippi and moved to Florida before leaving it all behind to get as far away from it as he could, settling down in California, San Francisco nonetheless. He laughed when he heard about the scandal in 2000, saying "Florida couldn't run a clean election if it tried".

So, I think you are right, Florida is going to be the worst offender this year when it comes to election-tampering. They already pulled out the stops in terms of voter suppression. To the point of ignoring the will of their Florida's voters when they created an artificial block to felons getting back their right to vote. Their state leaders have no regard for democracy and see the legal system as a tool to maintain their illegitimate control of government. They can't win fair so they will win dirty. Plantation political power never left that state. A government of the wealthy, by the wealthy and for the wealthy. Yet, dirt-poor rural voters continue to vote the most egregious offenders back into power in the Statehouse. In part because the spoils system is still in place out there. In combination of those of voters and voter suppression, I think DeSantis won the popular vote in that state. Won outright. Didn't need any fixing of the election though by reflex they did anyway.

Florida is pretty strongly against Trump this year, with polls showing about 3.4% advantage to Biden. Florida has about 14 million voters, so the nudge for Trump would have to suppress 500,000 votes for Biden or shift 250,000 away from Biden. Or some combination. They are good at cheating, don't really need to hide it and it's do-able. So, yeah, Florida makes me nervous.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The attacks on Barr begin? Donald is desperate and stupid too, he's gotta do something bigly to shake things up.
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Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election

With less than one month until the election, President Donald Trump is calling for his attorney general to indict his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, for the "greatest political crime in the history of our country."

Russia has plagued the Trump administration since he took office and accusations he colluded with one of America's top adversaries to win the election called the validity of his victory into question. Democrats and Republicans both use a report from special counsel Robert Mueller to fuel their arguments in favor or against Trump, but recently declassified documents prove the improper behavior falls on Biden and former President Barack Obama, Trump claimed.

On Thursday, Trump told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo that Biden and Obama "spited' his campaign and urged Attorney General Bill Barr to indict them because "we got plenty, you don't need any more." Without an indictment, Trump said, "we'll get little satisfaction," and he "won't forget it."

Newsweek reached out to the Biden campaign for comment but did not receive a response in time for publication.

This isn't the first time Trump's called for Barr to indict Biden over the "Russia hoax," as he refers to it. In August, he told Bartiromo that Barr had a chance to be the "greatest of all time" and that he has all of the answers showing that it goes "right to" Obama and Biden. But, if he chooses to be politically correct, he'll end up being "just another guy."

Trump's latest comments came after Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified an intelligence assessment linking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the scandal. In the assessment, it claims that Clinton approved an effort to "stir up a scandal" against Trump "by tying him to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee."

The assessment was previously rejected by Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee for not being based in fact, Politico reported. In his letter to Senator Lindsey Graham, Ratcliffe acknowledged the Intelligence Committee did not know the "accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication."
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Fogdog

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The attacks on Barr begin? Donald is desperate and stupid too, he's gotta do something bigly to shake things up.
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Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election

With less than one month until the election, President Donald Trump is calling for his attorney general to indict his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, for the "greatest political crime in the history of our country."

Russia has plagued the Trump administration since he took office and accusations he colluded with one of America's top adversaries to win the election called the validity of his victory into question. Democrats and Republicans both use a report from special counsel Robert Mueller to fuel their arguments in favor or against Trump, but recently declassified documents prove the improper behavior falls on Biden and former President Barack Obama, Trump claimed.

On Thursday, Trump told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo that Biden and Obama "spited' his campaign and urged Attorney General Bill Barr to indict them because "we got plenty, you don't need any more." Without an indictment, Trump said, "we'll get little satisfaction," and he "won't forget it."

Newsweek reached out to the Biden campaign for comment but did not receive a response in time for publication.

This isn't the first time Trump's called for Barr to indict Biden over the "Russia hoax," as he refers to it. In August, he told Bartiromo that Barr had a chance to be the "greatest of all time" and that he has all of the answers showing that it goes "right to" Obama and Biden. But, if he chooses to be politically correct, he'll end up being "just another guy."

Trump's latest comments came after Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified an intelligence assessment linking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the scandal. In the assessment, it claims that Clinton approved an effort to "stir up a scandal" against Trump "by tying him to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee."

The assessment was previously rejected by Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee for not being based in fact, Politico reported. In his letter to Senator Lindsey Graham, Ratcliffe acknowledged the Intelligence Committee did not know the "accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication."
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Barr has been Trump's most loyal legal Beagle. Barr has perjored himself many times over, beginning with his "summary" of the Mueller report and ending with him claiming not to know about White Terrorist activities in Michigan that targeted their governor for kidnapping and execution. Barr has threatened governors of blue stated with legal action if they don't do as Trump demanded and "crack down on the left". The dog has been faithful and even licked up Trump's coronavirus-infected spittle, choosing to not self quarantine because it would reflect badly on Trump.

Old Yeller? Trump is shooting Old Yeller? Did Barr come down with the hydrophoby?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Barr has been Trump's most loyal legal Beagle. Barr has perjored himself many times over, beginning with his "summary" of the Mueller report and ending with him claiming not to know about White Terrorist activities in Michigan that targeted their governor for kidnapping and execution. Barr has threatened governors of blue stated with legal action if they don't do as Trump demanded and "crack down on the left". The dog has been faithful and even licked up Trump's coronavirus-infected spittle, choosing to not self quarantine because it would reflect badly on Trump.

Old Yeller? Trump is shooting Old Yeller? Did Barr come down with the hydrophoby?
Dunno what Bill will do, he's desperate, knows Trump is gonna lose and also knows this bullshit won't help at all, if it would it might be a different matter. Bill is up against the iron whim, but this is a bridge too far, Biden, Obama and Clinton in cuffs?
 

hanimmal

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Do you think we would get ANY help from the government bc of the virus if any of the past Presidents would have been in office? No. He has plenty of money himself and has no problem signing Executive Orders and signing off on the HEROS Act to support small businesses, improving the Paycheck Protection Program and delivering targeted assistance to restaurants, nonprofits, and event venues; additional assistance for airline industry workers; and more funds to bolster education and child care, not to mention another Stimulus check and possibly increasing unemployment checks. I'm not into politics whatsoever; I'm just a citizen of the United States and this is just my input and opinion.
As another American citizen, I disagree with you. I think all of the previous presidents in my lifetime would have done everything they could to help the American people.

They would have had varied levels of competency (mostly due to the people around them IMO), but there was no question they cared about America. Trump has yet to show he cares more about our nation than he does his own brand.
 

Jimdamick

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Canadians have never had to go thru what Americans have.
Maybe that's because they never had slaves or had too resort to adding Amendment's to their Constitution to allow over 50% of their population (women) the equal right to vote/control their own fucking bodies.
They have been on the right side of History though, far fucking longer than the USA.
Cool country
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump projects even while he's choking, he accuses Biden of choking! Donald is in rough shape. Sometimes this tragicomedy is funny.
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SHOCKING! Trump can't stop coughing - Is Trump ok what's wrong with Trump on Hannity
 

mysunnyboy

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Do you think we would get ANY help from the government bc of the virus if any of the past Presidents would have been in office? No. He has plenty of money himself and has no problem signing Executive Orders and signing off on the HEROS Act to support small businesses, improving the Paycheck Protection Program and delivering targeted assistance to restaurants, nonprofits, and event venues; additional assistance for airline industry workers; and more funds to bolster education and child care, not to mention another Stimulus check and possibly increasing unemployment checks. I'm not into politics whatsoever; I'm just a citizen of the United States and this is just my input and opinion.
Just to your first point, what’s the ACA? Not healthcare from a president? lol
 

mysunnyboy

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Maybe that's because they never had slaves or had too resort to adding Amendment's to their Constitution to allow over 50% of their population (women) the equal right to vote/control their own fucking bodies.
They have been on the right side of History though, far fucking longer than the USA.
Cool country
I agree. Totally agree.
I just don’t like to keep hearing trump’s done.
It ain’t over till it’s over. People need to go out and vote and not rest on any laurels.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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DIY also doesn't know much about Florida.
About all I know is a few miles in from the coast it's Alabama with a red neck Riviera in the north west where it ain't much different than it's immediate neighbors. South and along the coast is where the civilized folks live. Except for the Cubans and they are a Hispanic exception, the Puerto Rican refugees hate Trump and there are several thousand felons who had their bullshit fines paid off thrown into the mix. Voter suppression is typical of a southern red state, but they do count mail in ballots early. The governor is a moron who kissed Trumps ass and betrayed his state and it's citizens, a fellow mass murder IMHO. Lot's of lawyers and even more cellphones watching this time, more than ever before.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe that's because they never had slaves or had too resort to adding Amendment's to their Constitution to allow over 50% of their population (women) the equal right to vote/control their own fucking bodies.
They have been on the right side of History though, far fucking longer than the USA.
Cool country
Our motto is, the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation, any act between consenting adults for short. We had our struggles with women's rights too, like in the states at times provinces tried to limit women's choices for religious reasons. The elder Trudeau settled much of this bullshit in the 70s, as justice minister before we even repatriated the constitution or wrote the bill of rights.

We had slaves too, brought mostly to my backyard here in NS with their American loyalist owners, but they were under tremendous social and political pressure. Slavery was made illegal in the 1820's in the British empire, but there was still indentured servitude and "apprenticeships" for feed slaves, but not in Canada to my knowledge. It was much the same in the New England states as far as social attitudes go.
 

Jimdamick

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I'm not into politics whatsoever; I'm just a citizen of the United States and this is just my input and opinion.
You voted for Trump, didn't you?
Feel a little bit queasy?
That's too bad, because that bad feeling/taste will never, ever go away.
Live & learn & hopefully your naiveites won't have fucked you forever, but if you did/do vote Trump, I really feel sorry for you & my children.
Anyway, stay safe & I wish you well
Now, it's my numbing time of the day which seemingly is occurring more frequently than ever due too the existence of Trump.
Who/what will kill me me 1st?
COVID-19 or liver failure due acute intoxication?
You guy's should start a pool (bet on the liver :) )
Stay & be safe :)

My song of the moment :)


 

Jimdamick

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About all I know is a few miles in from the coast it's Alabama with a red neck Riviera in the north west where it ain't much different than it's immediate neighbors. South and along the coast is where the civilized folks live. Except for the Cubans and they are a Hispanic exception, the Puerto Rican refugees hate Trump and there are several thousand felons who had their bullshit fines paid off thrown into the mix. Voter suppression is typical of a southern red state, but they do count mail in ballots early. The governor is a moron who kissed Trumps ass and betrayed his state and it's citizens, a fellow mass murder IMHO. Lot's of lawyers and even more cellphones watching this time, more than ever before.
Yup, you know Florida :)
 

mysunnyboy

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You voted for Trump, didn't you?
Feel a little bit queasy?
That's too bad, because that bad feeling/taste will never, ever go away.
Live & learn & hopefully your naiveites won't have fucked you forever, but if you did/do vote Trump, I really feel sorry for you & my children.
Anyway, stay safe & I wish you well
Now, it's my numbing time of the day which seemingly is occurring more frequently than ever due too the existence of Trump.
Who/what will kill me me 1st?
COVID-19 or liver failure due acute intoxication?
You guy's should start a pool (bet on the liver :) )
Stay & be safe :)

My song of the moment :)


I can’t drink anymore but I’m right there with ya
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Al Capone he’s not lol
Donald is reckless, remember, yer just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Eventually we will have a detailed chronology of Donald's entire miserable existence for the past 30 years and every sleazy thing he has done, it will be an epic list. Donald is a lifelong habitual criminal and I doubt he went trough a single day without breaking some law, even if it was "just" sticking his tongue down some poor woman's throat on impulse. He needed a clean up crew spreading cash and legal threats behind him his entire indolent life. Donald was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and choked on it.
 

mysunnyboy

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Donald is reckless, remember, yer just seeing the tip of the iceberg. Eventually we will have a detailed chronology of Donald's entire miserable existence for the past 30 years and every sleazy thing he has done, it will be an epic list. Donald is a lifelong habitual criminal and I doubt he went trough a single day without breaking some law, even if it was "just" sticking his tongue down some poor woman's throat on impulse. He needed a clean up crew spreading cash and legal threats behind him his entire indolent life. Donald was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and choked on it.
You’re preaching to the choir my friend.
We know what he is.
Let’s tap our feet for a few.
 
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