Lockdowns don't work.

[DIY-HP-LED]

I got antibodies, bro.

Don't tell the cops though, they might think I broke the law since you can't get infected while there's a lockdown in place.

Sell a pint to some rich prick, but you'll need a virus and serological test to do it, after a period of viral clearance. I believe you said you worked in a dive shop that was tourist dependant? Is there a job to go back to?

 

[abandonconflict]

So you really don't care about the others.


Got it.

Quit acting like you give a fuck about me and I'll keep acting like I don't give a fuck about you, how about that? I made a thread 3 damn months ago and you were one of the ones making light of it then when I was swearing up and down this shit was serious. Something about permafrost viruses and digging in the dirt.

11,525 New Yorkers got infected since yesterday lockdown or not. All I hear are people with a safe place to go and the ability to miss work telling others to stay home. Must be fucking nice.

 

[CloudHidden]

99% of Canadians are like you

all they do and have done for the last few years is talk about trump..really..

that is ALL they do

months ago all you were talking about was impeachment

next:

myopinion

trump is doing a great job..but with you people it doesn't matter what he does ..

what that guy and usa has done insuch a short time is nothing short of amazing


yes i understand you all have trump derangement syndrome and it is NOT going away..and no vaccine will fix that

ps

how could Canadians know what is going on in Canada?

Planes from China still arrive daily with ZERO temperature checks..

canada is not cool..they are not ahead of anyone..they were and still are behind..

they are generally "nice..tolerant..if you have the same opinion pc" people who ignore canadian politics and embrace pathetic talk show

hosts and hollywood movie star's opinions..and the bought off cbc

this is a new virus..its gotta go around
a small % have it go to the lungs and then is really bad for them..
almost 90% have one or more underlying problems already
from what i can see...there will be no vaccine..and if it comes ..the virus willhave alredy gone through the population
and vaccines do not work well on older people[like me]..and we are the ones besides the plethora of over weight diabetes people
that frequent our fast food society
from what i can see we need the herd immunity to do its thing..and it will ..what goes around comes around

and it is and it will


i am fine playing the social distance game
wait too long and you gotta know we will have worse troubles than this china virus
they never shut down the world before...i believe the repercussions are way worse

ok now get back to doing what Canadians do best
.
.........bashing Trump for everything

Oh shit. This whole time I thought Trump Derangement Syndrome was the malady that afflicted his supporters.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Quit acting like you give a fuck about me and I'll keep acting like I don't give a fuck about you, how about that? I made a thread 3 damn months ago and you were one of the ones making light of it then when I was swearing up and down this shit was serious. Something about permafrost viruses and digging in the dirt.

11,525 New Yorkers got infected since yesterday lockdown or not. All I hear are people with a safe place to go and the ability to miss work telling others to stay home. Must be fucking nice.

And all you care about is money because you have antibodies?

How long are they good for? 6 months? A year?

And 11,525 didn't get infected yesterday. They got infected as long as 2 weeks ago. The low income people have it rough, jammed in like sardines in NYC. And half the Fox news crowd still doesn't think they'll get sick because they listen to Trump. I'm far more worried about the minorites and Trump idiots than worried about you. They don't have much of a chance to begin with. And they can spread it.

You got it made, you can adapt like everybody else for the greater good. Working where you do must have ben fun and rewarding, but I wouldn't want to be in a foreign country just because of things like this. You get unemployment $ down there?

 

[abandonconflict]

And 11,525 didn't get infected yesterday. They got infected as long as 2 weeks ago.

That is unprovable but even if you want to surmise that, you'd still have to accept the curve not flattening below 10k new cases per day for fucking weeks, If they're extremely lucky and that's in one fucking city.

There is no fucking way it will ever be possible to keep the apex below the baseline. If they keep using this strategy to try to, they'll have a famine and hundreds of thousands of new cases per day in the country in a month.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

That is unprovable

Maybe. But what you see today statistically happened days/weeks before today.

Absolutely, positively not today.

And you they won't even see you the first few days unless you can't breathe. So it's days before you get anything other than phone treatment.

By the time you make the stats, you're in a bad way.

I suspect a majority never make the stats and everything is under reported.

 

[abandonconflict]

Maybe. But what you see today statistically happened days/weeks before today.

Absolutely, positively not today.

And you they won't even see you the first few days unless you can't breathe. So it's days before you get anything other than phone treatment.

By the time you make the stats, you're in a bad way.

No.

You need to get up to date info. Same way you clearly had no idea about testing in the US and insisted about it. You need to read up on the asymptomatic proportion. People are testing positive, I'm not referring to those admitted. I'm talking about those cavalier criminals who clearly broke the law and got infected during the lockdown

 

[tangerinegreen555]

No.

You need to get up to date info. Same way you clearly had no idea about testing in the US and insisted about it. You need to read up on the asymptomatic proportion. People are testing positive, I'm not referring to those admitted. I'm talking about those cavalier criminals who clearly broke the law and got infected during the lockdown

No.

Nobody totally understands this virus yet. Especially not you. So reading up isn't guaranteeing you're reading corroborated, peer reviewed fact.

But we do have common fucking sense to keep businesses shut the fuck down to see what happens. And what you see today happened weeks ago, we do know that much. You don't get exposed on Monday and wind up on a ventilator Monday night.

 

[abandonconflict]

No.

Yes. You were fucking clueless about testing stats until I cited a peer reviewed study and a tracking site. You even made several posts insisting about it and you were flat out wrong. Now you're insisting that every new case confirmed on a given day happened at least two weeks prior. That's also wrong as fuck. The average incubation period is only 8 days. So if cases were confirmed, by and large without hospital admittance, the majority couldn't have been older than a week.

Furthermore, if you would quit being a drama queen and learn something, you would know that actually strengthens the argument that I am making. If case confirmation is delayed by so long, the curve trajectory is even worse. The virus is spreading absolutely out of control. The number of cases could ALREADY BE WELL ABOVE healthcare capacity.

I'm sure it's not though, because the lockdown is totally protecting us.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Yes. You were fucking clueless about testing stats until I cited a peer reviewed study and a tracking site. You even made several posts insisting about it and you were flat out wrong. Now you're insisting that every new case confirmed on a given day happened at least two weeks prior. That's also wrong as fuck. The average incubation period is only 8 days. So if cases were confirmed, by and large without hospital admittance, the majority couldn't have been older than a week.

Furthermore, if you would quit being a drama queen and learn something, you would know that actually strengthens the argument that I am making. If case confirmation is delayed by so long, the curve trajectory is even worse. The virus is spreading absolutely out of control. The number of cases could ALREADY BE WELL ABOVE healthcare capacity.

I'm sure it's not though, because the lockdown is totally protecting us.

The average incubation period only takes you to the first symptoms. Add another week to that to be really fucking sick.

Tell you what, shove your whaaaaa outlier thread up your ass. You'll do what they tell you to do like everybody else. This isn't going away in a couple days so somebody can go to work. People in the states are getting by with enhanced unemployment benefits for a while.

Bye.

 

[abandonconflict]

The average incubation period only takes you to the first symptoms.

But that's not when people are getting tested in NY, which was the example you are arguing so hard about. Those 11,525 new cases which were clearly criminals who broke the law and got infected during the lockdown got tested mostly due to the rudimentary tracing program in place.

 

[Fogdog]

it's not flattening the curve enough to keep the apex below the baseline and if we keep trying to do it, we'll run into the sort of economic problems that will make it impossible to implement any other strategy

At least you have your privacy while deriding me though.

I'm sorry that the virus is so very contagious and you have to forego your cheeseburger for a few more weeks and you don't agree.

So sue me.

 

[hanimmal]

myopinion

trump is doing a great job..but with you people it doesn't matter what he does ..

what that guy and usa has done insuch a short time is nothing short of amazing

Which part exactly are you saying he did a great job with? He didn't close down China until after the virus was out traveling around the world. He had to do his victory tour buzzing Nascar and Hanging out in India while ships full of virus and metal canisters in the air brought it here to start spreading.

 

[Budley Doright]

If you put water on the crops, they'll grow.

Too much and they die

 

[Budley Doright]

Which part exactly are you saying he did a great job with? He didn't close down China until after the virus was out traveling around the world. He had to do his victory tour buzzing Nascar and Hanging out in India while ships full of virus and metal canisters in the air brought it here to start spreading.

Old Mother Senile is ranting ...... no nap maybe

 

[Budley Doright]

I'm sorry that the virus is so very contagious and you have to forego your cheeseburger for a few more weeks and you don't agree.

So sue me.

Trumpy burgers will be the new victory bonds .... yay MAGA!!!!

 

[jimihendrix1]

 

[doublejj]

22 million unemployed, wiping out a decade of U.S. job gains

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The eye-popping job losses in the past month have erased virtually all of the 22.8 million jobs gained from February 2010 to February 2020 during the rebound from the Great Recession.

22 million unemployed, wiping out decade of U.S. job gains

More than 22 million Americans have filed for unemployment aid since President Donald...

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[Budley Doright]

Yes. You were fucking clueless about testing stats until I cited a peer reviewed study and a tracking site. You even made several posts insisting about it and you were flat out wrong. Now you're insisting that every new case confirmed on a given day happened at least two weeks prior. That's also wrong as fuck. The average incubation period is only 8 days. So if cases were confirmed, by and large without hospital admittance, the majority couldn't have been older than a week.

Furthermore, if you would quit being a drama queen and learn something, you would know that actually strengthens the argument that I am making. If case confirmation is delayed by so long, the curve trajectory is even worse. The virus is spreading absolutely out of control. The number of cases could ALREADY BE WELL ABOVE healthcare capacity.

I'm sure it's not though, because the lockdown is totally protecting us.

Ha drama queen, that’s cute.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Ha drama queen, that’s cute.

Remember where he is Dudley, in the Philippines with a young family, goons at the intersections, the money and food running low. No government dole, no food banks, no job to go back to. Abandon is under tremendous stress, he is worried about those he loves.

I'm cutting him some slack over this, he has a point unfortunately, but it's being lost in the noise and frustration. Lockdowns are a temporary solution at best, sooner or later we will have to crawl out of our holes, there are treatments however which can be deployed that will make this easier. Look for large scale convalescent plasma transfusions this summer in Canada and the USA, it's one way out and Canada is exploring it too. Just as soon as the clinical trials are completed and serological testing starts, they will begin. It has the potential to drive mortality rates down to flu levels and almost ensure your and my personal survival if we get the bug, chances are we wouldn't even see a ventilator if they did it right.