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Fogdog

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You say you don't sow division but you're here, taking sides. So that's a lie.

The country has been firmly in the hands of the elites since 1980, that includes time spent under Democratic administrations. That's far from the only period of elite hegemony in this country.

Getting rid of Trump isn't the same as solving the problem; he's the mumps for sure, but it's time to cure the disease and the establishment Democratic party has shown they're just as infected as the Republicans are.

I'm completely consistent in my beliefs and motivations- which is why the clowns here have done and said nothing that affects my resolve; they just prove that those who program the American population have done a very good job.

Accusing me of spreading lies is rich, buddy. I'm not the glaringly inconsistent one but you're proving that it's impossible to argue with someone who won't let facts current their mind. So I'm not going to bother with you.

There are plenty of people who read these threads and make up their own minds. Your pseudopsychological mumbo jumbo won't carry any weight.

How I'm pursuing my in life is not the debate topic and it isn't any of your business; the fact that you and the rest of the Buckwits here constantly attack me personally is just more proof that you know you don't have any solid arguments so you'll take your potshots where you can.

Now try to pay attention to the subject at hand; the ongoing descent of history's most dangerous and powerful nation into a state of inverted totalitarianism and how to bring us back from the brink.

Fucking Joe Biden is not even going to try, let alone succeed. The only one who even see the problem and wants to stop it is Bernie Sanders and of course since he's only one man, there is much doubt that he'll be able to pull it off, either.

America IS a Fascist State, by the definition of Benito Mussolini, who knew something about the topic. Both major parties are inextricably entangled and neither establishment party is interested in changing things. Centrism is how Trump got elected. What this country needs is a while new direction and the only way left to go is... Well, Left!
In other words, Bernie sucks

Warren is ok. Maybe even sufficient.
 

The Gram Reaper

Well-Known Member
LMFAO

Exactly!

You know their propaganda machine is effective when all it has to do is report the truth- because none of the American media outlets will do it!
I used a meme, it has as much weight as their 'official documents' that do not even have headers or any kind of signature on them.
 

ttystikk

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In other words, Bernie sucks

Warren is ok. Maybe even sufficient.
Warren is compromised and will not fight for the changes necessary to save our nation or the climate.

The time for incrementalism is over; we squandered that opportunity.
 

Fogdog

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@Fogdog is a propaganda conspiracy theorist who supports the right wing agenda. Anything coming from that user is suspect.
So, about that time you said Carter foundation certified Maduros election as valid. You know, that claim we keep asking you to provide proof when the Carter Foundation went out and said they had never done that?

Yeah, that was propaganda you posted and repeated, tty.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I am not a follower like your imp that says "vote for democrats even though they are evil as fuck, at least it gets trump out". Trade one cancer for another is the left's big strategy?

I made this thread, buck followed me in. He brought a lot of baseless evidence and "followers", carrying even more baseless evidence, with him. And I follow about 30 people, check my profile, its not locked.

Screenshots of fake documents that do not even have titles on them are not evidence. Stop degrading yourselves like that.
Dunno about yer past or evidence, I try to stay nonjudgmental for the most part, but I'm surprised about the likes yer giving to Robs fruit cake ideas.

Were you clear on your motives and intentions? Buck won't bother ya if yer not acting like an asshole and playing games on here, like we've played, you were less than forth coming about a lot of shit and I don't research people's posts.

If yer not a Trumper and ya ain't evil ya won't have too many issues with me, but to be frank I suspect your character, but I'll get to know ya sooner or later. I don't get into a scraps with bucks enemies, but I do support him in most things because I agree with the values he has expressed, he fights for the weak and vulnerable and I like that a lot in a person.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Warren is compromised and will not fight for the changes necessary to save our nation or the climate.

The time for incrementalism is over; we squandered that opportunity.
So Warren is now the enemy?

LOL

I knew your kind would turn on her.

Warren's supporters haven't to my knowledge ever claimed that Carter Foundation certified Maduro's election. They are grounded in reality unlike Bernie Bros.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Hilary ain't running, live in the present and put your efforts there
The logical fallacy in that meme renders it more on the level of propaganda than a basis for an argument.

Russia absolutely did try to rig our election

The US absolutely did try to rig the Russian vote although it's hard to call what they do an election.

Neither of the two facts make what Trump did to conspire with Putin and Russia acceptable or equivalent in any way.

The US has every right to defend itself from Russia's attack on our elections system.

So, that meme is a stupid logical fallacy and anybody who uses it had no concept of reality.
 

The Gram Reaper

Well-Known Member
The logical fallacy in that meme renders it more on the level of propaganda than a basis for an argument.

Russia absolutely did try to rig our election

The US absolutely did try to rig the Russian vote although it's hard to call what they do an election.

Neither of the two facts make what Trump did to conspire with Putin and Russia acceptable or equivalent in any way.

The US has every right to defend itself from Russia's attack on our elections system.

So, that meme is a stupid logical fallacy and anybody who uses it had no concept of reality.
And it carries the same weight as any evidence you guys have presented in the last 13 pages.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
And it carries the same weight as any evidence you guys have presented in the last 13 pages.
It's a false argument.

Yes, the US shouldn't interfere with other country's elections

When Russia conspired with Trump to affect our election, Trump committed a crime and Russia attacked the US. We'll deal with Trump in good time. In the meantime, Trump is interfering with sanctions that the US Congress has placed upon Russia. Some sanctions have made it through and they are starting to bite. Russia will feel pain for what it's done.

Does that bother you?

You don't seem to care about the US. How about Russia? They are already drifting into a recession. Too bad for them. They shouldn't fuck with us. Tme for Putin to go.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Dunno about yer past or evidence, I try to stay nonjudgmental for the most part, but I'm surprised about the likes yer giving to Robs fruit cake ideas.

Were you clear on your motives and intentions? Buck won't bother ya if yer not acting like an asshole and playing games on here, like we've played, you were less than forth coming about a lot of shit and I don't research people's posts.

If yer not a Trumper and ya ain't evil ya won't have too many issues with me, but to be frank I suspect your character, but I'll get to know ya sooner or later. I don't get into a scraps with bucks enemies, but I do support him in most things because I agree with the values he has expressed, he fights for the weak and vulnerable and I like that a lot in a person.
He says, while passing judgement every chance you get.

Lol

What do you take us for?
 
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