Gquebed
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Both of which erased huge chunks of my family tree. Where would you like to start.Let's start with "the great purge" or "Katyn Massacre".
Both of which erased huge chunks of my family tree. Where would you like to start.Let's start with "the great purge" or "Katyn Massacre".
When has change ever been peaceful?Maybe it's because you are outraged when it's pointed out that Russia's revolution ended in a totalitarian government that needlessly starved 10's of millions of Ukrainians and that was just the beginning of Soviet Communist death camps. All prior to WW2.
You can have your revolution and your firebombs. We don't need millions of dead to prove that peaceful change is preferable to all out violent revolution.
You talk a lot about other people learning history for somebody who doesn't know much.When has change ever been peaceful?
Read some history then come back son.
And you should try reading an actual history book, instead of the abbreviated, over-simplified wiki snippets...You talk a lot about other people learning history for somebody who doesn't know much.
Uh huh. Seems like you are projecting here.And you should try reading an actual history book, instead of the abbreviated, over-simplified wiki snippets...
Any recipes you would care to share?And you should try reading an actual history book, instead of the abbreviated, over-simplified wiki snippets...
This is yet another self-congratulatory post of yours. You sound like a fat chick who constantly tells herself how sexy she is... and everybody else... hoping she might actually believe herself one day...Uh huh. Seems like you are projecting here.
Telling somebody who just kicked your ass in a history pissing match to read up on history seems kind of self defeating.
Sore loser.This is yet another self-congratulatory post of yours. You sound like a fat chick who constantly tells herself how sexy she is... and everybody else... hoping she might actually believe herself one day...
For what exactly? War history or general?Any recipes you would care to share?
Kicked your ass?Sore loser.
A "fat chick" ? Youre getting the shit kicked out of your gaping Struggleville ass.This is yet another self-congratulatory post of yours. You sound like a fat chick who constantly tells herself how sexy she is... and everybody else... hoping she might actually believe herself one day...
Cant lose when you use facts. Fact checkable facts. Go ahead.. check mine.A "fat chick" ? Youre getting the shit kicked out of your gaping Struggleville ass.
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1932: FDR made real changes. Also, the Civil Rights movement in the 1950's and '60's made real changesWhen has change ever been peaceful?
Read some history then come back son.
You picked some bad examples to support your argument... 1932 was a bad year for hunger marches. I believe 60 wounded and 4 dead in detroit when police opened fire on thousands of desperate, hungry people who marched in protest. Never mind all the upheaval across the country around that time when the great depression started up.1932: FDR made real changes. Also, the Civil Rights movement in the 1950's and '60's made real changes
I'm saying that you can have your firebombing and shove it up your ass. We need change but not the kind that almost always ends in dictatorship or totalitarian rule as violent revolution usually does.
So, you advocate the violent overthrow of the US government, justified how? You have practically zero knowledge of history if you think meaningful positive change for the masses comes from violent revolution. By what you say, you show that you know nothing of history, not even in your Russian homeland. Tell me how much better off Ukraine was under Stalin. Tell me how the people of China thrived under Mao. Tell me how great it is that China's rule was passed down from the Revolutionary Guard to their children who now form a corrupt oligarchy with autocratic rule. Tell me how much better it was under Pot Pot or Daniel Ortega or Iran's theocracy. What you advocate would satisfy only Putin and those other dictatorships.
Try reading.You picked some bad examples to support your argument... 1932 was a bad year for hunger marches. I believe 60 wounded and 4 dead in detroit when police opened fire on thousands of desperate, hungry people who marched in protest. Never mind all the upheaval across the country around that time when the great depression started up.
Civil rights? How many thousands marched and clashed with police? How many cities burned and how many dead through the 100s of race riots across the country for 10 years. What about the assasination of MLK?
Ya... peaceful change...
Late 20s and early 30s were some of the most violent in US history. As were the 60s.
You dont even know your own history never mind the rest of the world.
Try again idiot.
Who is the idiot?Try reading.
LOL. Yeah, FDR caused those riots. Simpleton
GoddamWho is the idiot?
I never said he caused the violence.
I said change rarely comes peacefully. FdR was in power during a time of huge civil unrest and it was that unrest that forced change. Same with the race riots that effected civil rights change.
How hard is that to understand. And it isnt my opinion. It is the opinion of many great historical writers that i merely repeated, for your benefit.
But you tried to argue it, using examples that proved my point.
Thanks.
Oh.Goddam
firebombs. You said we should start firebombing. Point out when a firebomb produced positive results in the modern US.
take those firebombs and cram them up your ass.
name it, coward. Name an incident where a US firebombing in the modern era had a positive outcome. You continue to claim it would, I'm saying you have an unfounded belief.Oh.
Youre an imbecile.
Wish i figured that out sooner and saved myself some time.