Rob Roy
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Just responding to your commentary.
Sanctions to prevent Iran from obtaining nukes.
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Just responding to your commentary.
Rob Roy
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If I came to your house, while you were off picking cotton to fuel your masters vices, and stole your spiderman pajamas right out of your bureau, but called it taxation, rather than theft, it would not be theft now ?
How does changing the word for a similar action create a new meaning ?
Collateral damage much?
Thundercat
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Don't waste your time dude, you are just making your self look ignorant trying to make comparisons like that. You are talking your self in circles, and aren't proving anything, just repeating the same things you always say that don't change the facts. You stealing pajamas is not the same principle as you choosing to live in a town, city, or country and needing to pay a fair share to keep it running. Thanks for playing.
While you might not appreciate society and want to contribute to it, I do. Just because I don't like how certain things are done, doesn't change my desire to see society improve and progress. You can call me a slave if you want, be we ALL are slaves in one way shape or form. I'm aware of the shackles not blind to them, however for the time being those are shackles we can't just simply remove and still maintain the benefits of society we all appreciate.
Unclebaldrick
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He's more a slave than nearly anybody here.
Rob Roy
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So you are okay with paying a "fair share" to force people to pay police to enforce prohibition and other victimless crime laws ? You don't have a problem funding that?
Military to kill and maim people and by using the word, "collateral damage" magically changing it into "not murder"?
Thank you for your servility, soldier !
Rob Roy
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Actually, I'm an unlicensed know it all.
Please don't make me pay for licensure or any type of mandatory authoritarian certification.
When somebody can come up with a noncontradictory argument to justify using an agency based in force as the same agency which will protect people from the use of force, I'll relent...maybe.
Bed bugs? Aren't spider mites bad enough?
londonfog
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How would you stop someone from entering a public building, that the racist owner does not want there due only to being black or female ?
londonfog
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how would you stop someone or a gang of someone from coming to your home and beating your ass and eating your food every other day ?
Rob Roy
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So if you knew your past behavior was inconsistent and wrong with something you now know to be right, would you continue your past behavior ?
If a "service" has mandatory confiscatory funding imposed on people, who may not want the service or wish to seek it from another service provider, would you say that it is a system which denies freedom of choice and equality of self determination ?
Also, forcing people to serve others is an element of slavery. Which you endorse.
Rob Roy
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That would be up to the owner of said building. It's not up to me to run others property for them
How would you stop a sexually enraged rhinoceros from entering you doggie style and having his way with you? I'd say that's up to you. (you would stop him, right? )
Rob Roy
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Not having mandatory coercion paid police doesn't mean people would be incapable of cooperatively using protective security services on a more consensual basis.
You seem to have fallen victim to the idea that because something is presently done one way, that is the only way it could be done. I'm beginning to doubt your capacity to reason, well, actually, we're past the beginning part.
I am presently plagued by a band of voracious gray squirrels eating the food I put out for birds. I've hired a hawk to run security. The funny thing is, the band of squirrels music sucks!
hotrodharley
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You sound like a fan. Same droning sound with a lot of hot air being blown out.
Thundercat
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People aren't forced to do any of these jobs. Police, firemen, school bus drivers or any other person that i"m aware of that gets paid with our tax money is doing so because they choose to take a job. Just like you choose to live in a civilized country with roads and schools, and police.
Like I stated in my previous post, I don't agree with or support lots of aspects of our government, especially how it spends our money and how it uses the military. That doesn't change the fact that i like living in a civilized country, and will do my part.
You claim people are stuck doing things the "way its always been", but you don't actually present any other option.......
How exactly would you suggest we support societal programs and progress without society contributing?
FYI Personally, I do think we should abolish income tax, and apply a flat sales tax on everything. This would eliminate sooo many loopholes and require EVERYONE that ever buys anything to pay their fair share.
Rob Roy
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No, people aren't forced to do those jobs, but others are forced to pay them. So that makes it self evident that government doesn't exist to protect freedom or self determination, if the first thing it does is employ force to fund itself. That's irrefutable btw.
Is there any appreciable difference between your not liking to be forced to pay for military empire than another persons not liking to pay for something they don't want ?
Rob Roy
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Think of me as soft white noise, like waves lapping the beach and you'll be asleep in no time.
Rob Roy
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On a voluntary, peaceful, mutual and consensual basis.
People who are forced to pay for something they don't want or don't use aren't "contributing", they are being extorted.
For example, if I ask you if you want to donate to charity X and you say sure, that's peaceful, mutual and voluntary. If you say no thanks, but I threaten you if you don't pay for my idea, how is that progress?
abandonconflict
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Don't worry, we do.
when you sign your homes closing statement, it is implied that you agree to pay taxes since you do not have to buy. don't like taxes? rent.
Rob Roy
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Like the fan beside your twin bed in the corner of your mom's basement that you've fixed up like a REAL apartment, except you have to go upstairs to use the bathroom and replenish your Cheeto supply.