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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Got up draped in you victim blanket, did you?

Did you know that every Democratic Party Senator voted to support Bernie's bill to repeal Citizen's United? Of course you do, I've said this to you many times. Yet you claim Democrats oppose campaign finance reform.

Who is the hypocrite?
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You are.

Democrats were happy to vote for it when they knew it didn't mean anything.

They acted just like Republicans when that party voted over and over to repeal Obamacare, knowing that the president would veto if it ever made it past the House.

The notion that you see a difference in their behavior just tells me that really like that flavor of kool-aid.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
You are.

Democrats were happy to vote for it when they knew it didn't mean anything.

They acted just like Republicans when that party voted over and over to repeal Obamacare, knowing that the president would veto if it ever made it past the House.

The notion that you see a difference in their behavior just tells me that really like that flavor of kool-aid.
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LOL back to conspiracy theories again.

You have nothing but your own imagination to back that story up. You don't even have Venezuelan propaganda to cite for that story.

It is recorded in the Congressional Record that in 2014, every Democratic Party Senator voted to end the Republican filibuster of Bernie's bill and every Republican Senator voted to sustain it. Just a few Republicans were needed to overturn the filibuster. You claim that if cloture had been invoked, Democratic Senators would have voted against the bill.
Man, you are cracked.

Rather than depend on your word for it that there was a grand conspiracy, I'll just cite the facts.

The Senate Tried to Overturn ‘Citizens United’ Today. Guess What Stopped Them?

https://www.thenation.com/article/senate-tried-overturn-citizens-united-today-guess-what-stopped-them/
Fifty-four senators, all Democrats and independents who caucus with the Democrats, voted Thursday for the amendment to clarify in the Constitution that Congress and the states have the authority to do what they did for a century before activist judges began intervening on behalf of wealthy donors and corporations: enact meaningful campaign finance rules and regulations.

But forty-two senators, all Republicans, voted no. As a result, Udall noted, the Republican minority was able to “filibuster this measure and instead choose to support a broken system that prioritizes corporations and billionaires over regular voters.”
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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Fogdog said:
LOL back to conspiracy theories again.

You have nothing but your own imagination to back that story up. You don't even have Venezuelan propaganda to cite for that story.

It is recorded in the Congressional Record that in 2014, every Democratic Party Senator voted to end the Republican filibuster of Bernie's bill and every Republican Senator voted to sustain it. Just a few Republicans were needed to overturn the filibuster. You claim that if cloture had been invoked, Democratic Senators would have voted against the bill.
Man, you are cracked.

Rather than depend on your word for it that there was a grand conspiracy, I'll just cite the facts.

The Senate Tried to Overturn ‘Citizens United’ Today. Guess What Stopped Them?

https://www.thenation.com/article/senate-tried-overturn-citizens-united-today-guess-what-stopped-them/
Fifty-four senators, all Democrats and independents who caucus with the Democrats, voted Thursday for the amendment to clarify in the Constitution that Congress and the states have the authority to do what they did for a century before activist judges began intervening on behalf of wealthy donors and corporations: enact meaningful campaign finance rules and regulations.

But forty-two senators, all Republicans, voted no. As a result, Udall noted, the Republican minority was able to “filibuster this measure and instead choose to support a broken system that prioritizes corporations and billionaires over regular voters.”
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Funny how @ttinydick's entire thing in the last election was an overturn of CU, but now that centrist Dems are actually expending political capitol to make it happen, he refuses to acknowledge their sacrifice.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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scumrot derelict said:
Funny how @ttinydick's entire thing in the last election was an overturn of CU, but now that centrist Dems are actually expending political capitol to make it happen, he refuses to acknowledge their sacrifice.
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Not long after that vote, Democrats lost control of the Senate. Since then, there has been no action taken by the Republican controlled Congress to reform campaign finance laws.

The assbite just drones on about Democrats as if they are why Republicans have fucked this country up. Even better though. Pad once claimed that Alabama had a huge but silent liberal population that refused to vote because they would rather let Republicans control the state than vote for a moderate Democrat.

I can't make this shit up.
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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Fogdog said:
Not long after that vote, Democrats lost control of the Senate. Since then, there has been no action taken by the Republican controlled Congress to reform campaign finance laws.

The assbite just drones on about Democrats as if they are why Republicans have fucked this country up. Even better though. Pad once claimed that Alabama had a huge but silent liberal population that refused to vote because they would rather let Republicans control the state than vote for a moderate Democrat.

I can't make this shit up.
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Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
Got up draped in you victim blanket, did you?

Did you know that every Democratic Party Senator voted to support Bernie's bill to repeal Citizen's United? Of course you do, I've said this to you many times. Yet you claim Democrats oppose campaign finance reform.

Who is the hypocrite?
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It isn't so much hypocricey as it is just plain wrong. Tty is unhinged from factual information after swallowing the Trumpist/Putin bait so hard and so willingly. His ego was his undoing. Never before have I met somebody with an ego so out of proportion with his actual capabilities.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
Why? What have they done to make the working lives of millions of Americans any better?

They cave to Republicans on everything from right to work to foreign wars.

They've made it very clear that they consider the Progressive Left more of an enemy than the Republicans- inadvertently exposing the truth that they really aren't different from Republicans on pocketbook economic issues.

This makes perfect sense when one gives even a cursory examination of the list of donors who contribute money to both sides.

America's political system is hopelessly corrupt and your response is to ignore that and choose a side like it means anything.

That's why I think your position is fraudulent. I call you a fraud because there's no way you don't know this.
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You're projecting again. You have been proven wrong so many times, and we've called you on it. But you never acknowledge it and you just double down by claiming superior intellect and insight. You are the one who has been proven a fraud so many times - you must know what a fraud you are. But you just keep throwing insults. I guess you figure that if you just keep posting, everything will be ok and somehow, somewhere, people respect you.

Nope. Sad.

Lol, "Gang of 6?". More like everybody except your two idiot friends who won't even defend you. The best they can do is keep their embarrassment a secret.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Unclebaldrick said:
It isn't so much hypocricey as it is just plain wrong. Tty is unhinged from factual information after swallowing the Trumpist/Putin bait so hard and so willingly. His ego was his undoing. Never before have I met somebody with an ego so out of proportion with his actual capabilities.
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I went out on google to see what he was talking about regarding Rachel Maddow.

The propaganda organ fired up when Maddow said this:

Maddow: “Even though his whole administration spent all week saying that Russia was interfering in Venezuela, and propping up the Venezuelan dictator there, turns out President Trump now says: Putin isn’t doing that at all, because Putin told him so.

…And so, hey John Bolton and hey Mike Pompeo, are you guys enjoying your jobs right now? You each thought your job this week was to name, and shame, and threaten, and counter Russian government involvement in Venezuela while saber-rattling about how everybody else better get out of the way because the US is really mad about it. Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.”


Put your bullshit deflectors up before reading the following. The so-called "Progressive Left" propaganda spin is:

Rachel Maddow wants Venezuela war to stop 'the Russians'
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/05/07/rachel-maddow-endorses-regime-change-venezuela-push-russia-back-sympathizes-with-bolton-pompeo/

To check, I pulled up the video where Maddow lampooned the differences between Pompeo and Bolton who are alarmed over Russia's involvement in Venezuela while Trump "talked to Putin about it and said that Putin told him he wasn't doing anything". Maddow poked fun at P and B about working for Trump. Then the propaganda machine fires up with fabrications over what Maddow said. They are spinning a fake story. @ttystikk then hurks up that story here. These guys are sucking down Russian propaganda or right wing propaganda put out there for idiots like tty to soak up.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
I went out on google to see what he was talking about regarding Rachel Maddow.

The propaganda organ fired up when Maddow said this:

Maddow: “Even though his whole administration spent all week saying that Russia was interfering in Venezuela, and propping up the Venezuelan dictator there, turns out President Trump now says: Putin isn’t doing that at all, because Putin told him so.

…And so, hey John Bolton and hey Mike Pompeo, are you guys enjoying your jobs right now? You each thought your job this week was to name, and shame, and threaten, and counter Russian government involvement in Venezuela while saber-rattling about how everybody else better get out of the way because the US is really mad about it. Guys, turns out your actual job is figuring out how and why you work for a president who says whatever Vladimir Putin tells him.”


Put your bullshit deflectors up before reading the following. The so-called "Progressive Left" propaganda spin is:

Rachel Maddow wants Venezuela war to stop 'the Russians'
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/05/07/rachel-maddow-endorses-regime-change-venezuela-push-russia-back-sympathizes-with-bolton-pompeo/

To check, I pulled up the video where Maddow lampooned the differences between Pompeo and Bolton who are alarmed over Russia's involvement in Venezuela while Trump "talked to Putin about it and said that Putin told him he wasn't doing anything". Maddow poked fun at P and B about working for Trump. Then the propaganda machine fires up with fabrications over what Maddow said. They are spinning a fake story. @ttystikk then hurks up that story here. These guys are sucking down Russian propaganda or right wing propaganda put out there for idiots like tty to soak up.
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Tty is an idiot with no clue how easily they are playing him. Plus, he's totally lazy and never checks with the original sources. It took me 15 seconds to prove that the Carter Foundation did not certify Maduro's election. But Tty can't be bothered with that.

Oh, but nevertheless, he's not wrong - we're Republicans. Yeah, ok.

Sad. What a twat.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Not long after that vote, Democrats lost control of the Senate. Since then, there has been no action taken by the Republican controlled Congress to reform campaign finance laws.

The assbite just drones on about Democrats as if they are why Republicans have fucked this country up. Even better though. Pad once claimed that Alabama had a huge but silent liberal population that refused to vote because they would rather let Republicans control the state than vote for a moderate Democrat.

I can't make this shit up.
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Yes you can. You just did.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
no, it's completely factual. You and Pad are completely bonkers.
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And that's your opinion.

Meanwhile you eagerly swallow the propaganda spoon fed to you by those who have it in their obvious self interest to lie to you and keep you, along with millions of other Americans, completely in the dark.

Disagree with me if you like, that's your right.

The future will prove who's right.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
And that's your opinion.

Meanwhile you eagerly swallow the propaganda spoon fed to you by those who have it in their obvious self interest to lie to you and keep you, along with millions of other Americans, completely in the dark.

Disagree with me if you like, that's your right.

The future will prove who's right.
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It is a fact that Maddow said nothing of the sort that you claimed.
ttystikk said:
No, it's even worse than that; I listen to Democrats and self professed 'liberals' all day.

Fucking Rachel Maddow has actually come out in support of John Bolton's desires to start wars in both Venezuela and Iran.

It's your party, not mine.
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It's all over the internet. Strange unknown blogs claiming to be leftist are saying exactly what you claimed. Almost to the letter.

She poked fun at Trump swallowing Putin's lies and schadenfreude over Bolton's life now that even he is at odds with Trump. Then the internet blossoms with a repeated lie about Maddow endorsing military invasion and regime change. You are a tool of somebody tty. Maybe it's right wing manipulators, maybe it's Russia. IDK. But the whole thing took place very quickly with practically the same words used across multiple sites. Yet, she did not say what they claim.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
And that's your opinion.

Meanwhile you eagerly swallow the propaganda spoon fed to you by those who have it in their obvious self interest to lie to you and keep you, along with millions of other Americans, completely in the dark.

Disagree with me if you like, that's your right.

The future will prove who's right.
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I cited fact. Facts aren't the same as opinion.
 
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