2 bagseed “grape ape” clone run

dstroy

dstroy

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I built it as a light timer, I used to transition gradually from veg to flower, I don't really do that anymore. I can customize to do non24hr day or pretty much any timing I can figure the math out too. I have 2, 1 is running my party cup comp cabinet, it runs light (cobs, red eod and uv) and a humidifier and monitors temp and rh. The other runs my tent light (cobs and red eod), circulation fans, dehumidifier or humidifier, monitors temp and rh (it used to kick on an exhaust fan when either got too high).

When I ordeded the AC infinity in mid january amazon was ahead of the product release and sent the one that just did temp control although the listing indictated temp and humidity. AC infinity was quick to resolve and sent the right controller so I have an extra temp controler if you can use it.

Their control logic is a 2 stage response, alert level and alarm level. The alert level is set by the user on a 1 to 10 scale in the on/off mode, the alarm level is full on (10). The user sets alert and alarm values for high/low temperature and humidity. The alerts and alarms can be individually enabled or disabled. It will gradually ramp the fan up as an alert or alarm is hit then gradually back down as condition is satisfied. I know I missing some of the features, all in all I like it alot, I am still tweaking the setup but basically I exhaust only part of the air. Fan pushes into tent, tent exhausts to Y connected to a carbon filter and the fan inlet.
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that's pretty slick.

The way my room is setup, I "manufacture" air outside the tents and the extraction fan is only there to pull in the already conditioned air. They only have to run for maybe 5-30 seconds and only to regulate humidity inside of the tent.

I also have a function that runs the fans periodically if they haven't ran in a while (every few minutes), for odor elimination. Even if none of the other run conditions are met.

I have a separate scrubber in the room as well that runs continuously.
 
SSGrower

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dstroy said:
that's pretty slick.

The way my room is setup, I "manufacture" air outside the tents and the extraction fan is only there to pull in the already conditioned air. They only have to run for maybe 5-30 seconds and only to regulate humidity inside of the tent.

I also have a function that runs the fans periodically if they haven't ran in a while (every few minutes), for odor elimination. Even if none of the other run conditions are met.

I have a separate scrubber in the room as well that runs continuously.
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My space is not well conditioned, thats why I recirculate most of the air.

Cant remember if you suplement co2?
I like running it low for a more continuous airflow, ensuring adequate co2, I like the run if not run in a while. maybe I'll ask if AC infinity can make beta programs, it would be nice if their interface allowed for more custom setup like time based functional values. The more I think about it I am going to ask them, why should I build their wheel for them? Also want to know if they intend to make any companion products like deheueys, heaters, chillers....
 
dstroy

dstroy

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My space is not well conditioned, thats why I recirculate most of the air.

Cant remember if you suplement co2?
I like running it low for a more continuous airflow, ensuring adequate co2, I like the run if not run in a while. maybe I'll ask if AC infinity can make beta programs, it would be nice if their interface allowed for more custom setup like time based functional values. The more I think about it I am going to ask them, why should I build their wheel for them? Also want to know if they intend to make any companion products like deheueys, heaters, chillers....
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My environment is very tightly controlled.

I don’t supplement co2 but I monitor it, and that has an influence on the extraction fans behavior. I have everything to run co2 (bottle, regulator, solenoid), but don’t need to because I get enough medicine without it.

It’s a standard molex 4 pin connector on the fan. You just need a female plug and you can power and control it yourself.
 
SSGrower

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dstroy said:
My environment is very tightly controlled.

I don’t supplement co2 but I monitor it, and that has an influence on the extraction fans behavior. I have everything to run co2 (bottle, regulator, solenoid), but don’t need to because I get enough medicine without it.

It’s a standard molex 4 pin connector on the fan. You just need a female plug and you can power and control it yourself.
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LOL.
I did pop off a few questions to ac infinity about companion products like heaters and chillers, custom programmig, time based programming.... I said it would be nice if I didn't have to hack it with my arduino and then asked if they were hireing.

I got a response from them.
They aren't hiring project engineers but my ideas will be passed on to the development team.

I still have not done pwm on the arduino because I have not upgraded to a driver with 3 in 1 dimming, I kind of wanted to try out the d(2) series (user programmable) of meanwell driver for that.

What are you using to monitor co2? I tried the "cheap" $60 dollar thermal type and it failed instantly. I didn't have budget to try the $130 IR type.
 
dstroy

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LOL.
I did pop off a few questions to ac infinity about companion products like heaters and chillers, custom programmig, time based programming.... I said it would be nice if I didn't have to hack it with my arduino and then asked if they were hireing.

I got a response from them.
They aren't hiring project engineers but my ideas will be passed on to the development team.

I still have not done pwm on the arduino because I have not upgraded to a driver with 3 in 1 dimming, I kind of wanted to try out the d(2) series (user programmable) of meanwell driver for that.

What are you using to monitor co2? I tried the "cheap" $60 dollar thermal type and it failed instantly. I didn't have budget to try the $130 IR type.
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They’re cozir NDIR co2/temp/humidity sensors, they were $110ish when I bought them.

Haven’t had any problems with them at all.
 
beacher

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Nice. How much longer will you veg them? I did a scrog my last round and didn't fill the screen up nearly as much as I should have..
 
MI.BUDZ

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Lookin good.
Just curious of your current on/off run cycles and your operating head/ nozzle pressure?

Still thinking SOG style and don’t feel I will need a very large grow chamber. Watching your grow and trying to maintain Atomizer recommendation of 16+”. Do you get any current root pics?

Seen Larry’s root tips but he went clear thought veg and ended up @23” diameter in the chamber.

Little veg and straight to flower in the ones below should be doable by looking at the size of yours.

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dstroy

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MI.BUDZ said:
Lookin good.
Just curious of your current on/off run cycles?
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Thank you

.5-1 on 180 off

If the humidity is low and the temperature is high it will start increasing feed times, and do the opposite when environmental conditions are inverse. If they’re optimal it’ll move around slowly seeing if humidity increases or decreases, trying to keep it at a set point without using extraction more than necessary.
 
SSGrower

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dstroy said:
Thank you

.5-1 on 180 off

If the humidity is low and the temperature is high it will start increasing feed times, and do the opposite when environmental conditions are inverse. If they’re optimal it’ll move around slowly seeing if humidity increases or decreases, trying to keep it at a set point without using extraction more than necessary.
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Do you set it to "ignore" or something when you open the tent then? This seems a very useful for targeting particular vpd. I have a less exact system, look at plant, does it get two 5 second pours, a 5 and a 7, two 7s, or does it get a 1/2 gallon dump because I skipped a day.
 
dstroy

dstroy

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MI.BUDZ said:
Lookin good.
Just curious of your current on/off run cycles and your operating head/ nozzle pressure?

Still thinking SOG style and don’t feel I will need a very large grow chamber. Watching your grow and trying to maintain Atomizer recommendation of 16+”. Do you get any current root pics?

Seen Larry’s root tips but he went clear thought veg and ended up @23” diameter in the chamber.

Little veg and straight to flower in the ones below should be doable by looking at the size of yours.

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Operating pressure is 110psi nominal at the nozzle. No, I don’t have any current root pics, I will take some when I harvest if I remember.
 
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