UncleBuck
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It was trump who cheated and that’s why his campaign manager and lawyer are in prison and trump is an unindicted co conspirator
Americans Maintain a Positive View of Bernie Sanders
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Fogdog
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Totally discredited theory.
You alt.right white boys do hate the idea of the majority deciding elections. I'll agree with you on that.
Fogdog
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I just got through three minutes of the video and have to ask. With Bernie's being "furious about low turnout" and how it helped Republicans, with his inspiring speeches like this one advocating that people should vote, especially his encouragement of young people to vote, why do Bernie's supporters keep saying they aren't going to vote? What about "Our job in the next 18 days is to turn that scenario (people not voting) upside down" don't they get?
SB85
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I feel there is no need to watch the every day person suffer due to republicans in leadership. It's time for his supporters to let it go and vote for the party{Democrats} which happens to have policy in place that all citizens could benefit from all the way from living standards- health care. There is no need to sit out with trying to prove a point because in the end i am sure everybody has family/friends which benefit from the programs which Trump/Republicans are aiming to cut.
Fogdog
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After the first few minutes, it just turned into a stump speech for Bernie. The rally was for Gretchen Whitmer to support her bid for governor of Michigan and he hardly even mentioned her or Michigan. He just talked about national politics and his own policies. I'm not surprised because he always does that at these rallies. Bernie's not good at bringing people together.
Buddha2525
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Which would make us a one party state, also known as Marxism. Why don't you stop beating around the bush and say you wish that those Republican mongrels could be forced to vote your way or sent to the gulag. Then your Marxist utopia would be complete.
SB85
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It's not about my way, it's about all these politicians remembering that they are supposed to serve the USA citizens. That means having programs up and running which helps the every day person.
Buddha2525
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Hillary MAGA'd 42 states to the right. Maybe she can do 8 more and DC too next time? Hillary's 2020 slogan should be, "Because we need more MAGA!"
Hillary was the original sin.
Buddha2525
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Then you could say the Republican party needs reform, which it does desperately need, along with the Democrats too. Otherwise we'll become exactly what I said.
Buddha2525
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No the DNC is. Hillary was just their shill and willing to be bought and paid for. Bernie refused to play ball and was severely punished by his puppet masters when he told them, "you got no strings on me!"
SB85
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Fogdog
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It's not my fault that Bernie is a poor and divisive leader.
Fogdog
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I like Duckworth much more than Bernie. I'm going to wait for the debates before I make up my mind but Bernie has only stumped for himself. He could have reached out to people who didn't vote for him in 2016. Instead he said things that did the opposite. He pretty much sunk his campaign on April 4 when he spoke out against Democrats and especially Obama at a rally meant to honor Martin Luther King.
Remember the "coming together" tour with Perez? Yeah, the things he said then were hardly that.
Buddha2525
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It's not my fault Hillary divided your party so much which hadn't been seen since Reagan.
Fogdog
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Hillary didn't divide the Democratic party. Only 7% of all registered Democrats voted for Trump. More crossover votes came from Republicans who voted for Clinton. Clinton won the popular vote too. If not for an arcane slave era agreement that allowed a minority to vote in Trump, you'd be whining about president Clinton.
You simply cannot get the facts straight. I mean, one would think some time you'd make a typo and then be right by accident, but nope. Every time you are wrong.
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ttystikk
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You're either a bad liar, a complete idiot or utterly obtuse.
Two out of three, perhaps?
Fogdog
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Hillary Clinton did not divide the party. Nor did Bernie, for that matter. The crossover voting from those who voted for Bernie to those that voted for Trump was small -- roughly 9%.
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
Or perhaps you would prefer CNN's exit polls:
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
Only about 8% of registered Democrats voted for Trump. Tell me again how the party is divided.
I quote the facts presented by exit polls from 2016. They are facts and not debatable unless you can point out a rational reason why they are inaccurate. Please, though, do only cite reputatable sources. Jimmy Dore is not one of them and neither is Kyle Kulinski. I don't much care what moonofalabama or whatever other nutjob propaganda organ you listen to says to soothe your confirmation bias.
ttystikk
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Ok, I'll tell you again about how the Democrap party is divided.
Their main job is subverting any movement to the Left in American politics.
Progress will be made when they fail.