Fogdog
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GOP Keystone Kongress failed to fund the bill. You sound as misinformed as Sanders supporter.
Dumbshit.
What Democrats have sponsored or cosponsored a bill to enact universal healthcare?
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Dumbshit.
Fogdog
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ThaMagnificent
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It's not their duty to fund a partisan bill that was not even supported when it was rammed through Congress in the first place. Strong liberal logic
ThaMagnificent
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Good. No issue with that at all. It's called "negotiating" a deal, not throwing a bunch of crap together and ramming it down our throats like the Dems did in the first place
ThaMagnificent
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But it was cool when 22m lost insurance under ACA and the millions more that it was in fact not affordable. I'm not even arguing whether or not 24+ million people will lose their insurance (but I'd love to see evidence of that claim). I'm arguing about the idiots saying that they'll denied healthcare in masses for having social anxiety or for having ADHD. Absolutely ridiculous and completely untrue.
Fogdog
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Mmmmhummm, Republicans aren't fat.
The elephant in the room nobody is talking about. 20% of the people use 70% of the health care, because they are purposely disgusting FATBODIES. America is FAT. I'm not talking about medical conditions where you can't help it. You just eat too much. When you go on 20% overweight or much more, to morbid obesity, your diabetes, blood pressure, chlorestoral, skeletal joint problems and the whole shebang are directly due to your lifestyle choice. You don't clinically need that go-cart to get around the Walmart, you can walk. You just don't want to. And I as a responsible gym goer who disciplines myself even though I would like that whole cherry pie gotta pay for YOU! I am in the lowest risk pool, haven't been to a doctor in years except for ortho issues related to my past sports life and I have to subsidize your tests and meds most of which you need for the side effects of other meds, and the industry is making a MINT off of you, WITH MY MONEY! Tax those people who are hoarding the healthcare system. Unhealthy people are why we spend so much money on healthcare. Most diseases and sicknesses people have they bring on themselves. Fat people are unhealthy because of the choices they make. Smokers are unhealthy because of the choices they make. I don't want to subsidize irresponsible people. No ****ing thanks. Any unhealthy person should have to pay more for their healthcare. It's only fair and it's the only way for our healthcare system to work, whether private or public.
ThaMagnificent
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Goddamn you are so partisan it's impossible to even have a conversation with you. I didn't even bring up a party name and you go straight to Republican bashing.....classic...that's why the Politics section is a joke. No one uses logic around here and as soon as you bring up a good point it's immediate partisan hit job attempts.Mmmmhummm, Republicans aren't fat.
I'm done
UncleBuck
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The elephant in the room nobody is talking about. 20% of the people use 70% of the health care, because they are purposely disgusting FATBODIES. America is FAT. I'm not talking about medical conditions where you can't help it. You just eat too much. When you go on 20% overweight or much more, to morbid obesity, your diabetes, blood pressure, chlorestoral, skeletal joint problems and the whole shebang are directly due to your lifestyle choice. You don't clinically need that go-cart to get around the Walmart, you can walk. You just don't want to. And I as a responsible gym goer who disciplines myself even though I would like that whole cherry pie gotta pay for YOU! I am in the lowest risk pool, haven't been to a doctor in years except for ortho issues related to my past sports life and I have to subsidize your tests and meds most of which you need for the side effects of other meds, and the industry is making a MINT off of you, WITH MY MONEY! Tax those people who are hoarding the healthcare system. Unhealthy people are why we spend so much money on healthcare. Most diseases and sicknesses people have they bring on themselves. Fat people are unhealthy because of the choices they make. Smokers are unhealthy because of the choices they make. I don't want to subsidize irresponsible people. No ****ing thanks. Any unhealthy person should have to pay more for their healthcare. It's only fair and it's the only way for our healthcare system to work, whether private or public.
red states and counties are way more obese and unhealthy than the the productive blue states and counties. that is a fact.
blame your fellow racist rednecks, retard.
Fogdog
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No, no this won't do.
You make up shit and divert to avoid answering a direct question.
You made a claim that it is a lie that tens of millions have healthcare coverage who would not under the do-nothing policies of GW Bush. I ask you to post factual information to back your claim.
After you do this, I will be glad to take your question.
UncleBuck
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so you railed on obamacare saying it was falling apart, now you say "good" when shown that it is your retarded representatives making it fall apart on purpose.
you are fucking retarded.
say, where can i read the text of the republican health care bill which they are gonna vote on next week?
UncleBuck
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how do you square up that lie with the fact that the uninsured rate went down dramatically thanks to obamacare?
you are fucking retarded.
UncleBuck
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it's a fact, the most obese and unhealthy parts of the nation are also the most republican. the healthiest parts of the nation are all democrat.
you're done here?
good. see ya, retard.
UncleBuck
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it's falling apart because the GOP won't fund it. the insurers even say so when they pull out.
say, where can i read a copy of the republican bill set to be voted on next week?
would hate to have to pass it to see what's in it.
ThaMagnificent
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....Because you get penalized for not having insurance.....really? are you fucking retarded
ThaMagnificent
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Partisan politics has nothing to do with obesity you hack. Fat is Fat regardless. Stop being such a liberal cuck
UncleBuck
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that didn't answer my question.
you said 22 million people lost insurance under obamacare. but the uninsured rate went way down.
how can you reconcile those two claims?
UncleBuck
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a cuck is someone who gets off on being humiliated, and you are definitely the one being humiliated here.
partisan politics may not have anything to do with obesity, but the most obese and unhealthy parts of the nation are all republican areas. every single one of them.
also, where can i read a copy of the republican health care plan they vote on next week?
would hate to have to pass it to see what's in it.
thanks, cuck.
ThaMagnificent
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"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan"
-get kicked off current plan
-have to buy new plan = counted as Obamacare insured
liberal math
keep coping
UncleBuck
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so you're saying 22 million people lost their insurance, and then bought an obamacare plan?
how does that explain the massive drop in the uninsured rate?
i don't think you're very bright at all.
no wonder donald loves the poorly educated.
Fogdog
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It was the law of the land. A contract between the government, health care providers and the people of the US. The GOP Kongress reneged on the part of the government to fund high risk pool of people who otherwise could not afford health care.
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20161205/NEWS/161129937
The federal government owes insurers roughly $8.3 billion from the ACA's risk-corridor program to offset losses on the exchanges from 2014 and 2015. Insurers are owed more than $5.8 billion in net risk-corridor payments for 2015 alone, according to the latest CMS data.
The 2015 total comes on top of the $2.5 billion shortfall to cover insurers' 2014 losses. All told, the federal government is barely making a dent in the mounting requests for payments
So, insurers are passing the unpaid bill on to American taxpayers in the form of higher premiums. We can thank the GOP Kongress for the higher premiums. The high risk "corridor" is mainly disabled and sick people who are without work. They were covered in the ACA through government commitments to pay for their coverage. It was a contract with insurance providers that was not honored. A lawsuit is still working it's way through courts. The GOP Kongress has most certainly failed to live up to obligations.