Say goodbye to Clean Air and Water

Lucky Luke

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*you're. you clearly have no clue man, and it's pretty evident. i was attempting to engage you in an intelligent conversation, clearly not possible. namaste.
"You","I", "Namaste"
If you dont understand how the first part works how they hell are you going to understand the rest?
 
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mikeyboy2121

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*you're. you clearly have no clue man, and it's pretty evident. i was attempting to engage you in an intelligent conversation, clearly not possible. namaste.
Impossible to have an intelligent logical discussion with people like this. I tried and got accusations and insults for my efforts. Now I return the favor. These people don't want to talk, they want to fight. Don't try to be nice, they'll just spit in your face. That's my take on it...
 

Lucky Luke

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Impossible to have an intelligent logical discussion with people like this. I tried and got accusations and insults for my efforts. Now I return the favor. These people don't want to talk, they want to fight. Don't try to be nice, they'll just spit in your face. That's my take on it...
Most company's dont pay tax due to operating losses.. Company tax is paid in the country the business is based in (Do they even have an office in America?). Tariffs only apply if they exists and are not negotiated in the contact if they do (they are normally negotiated out). A Canadian company has already been chosen to build it ..i dont see what he was going for in regard to an American one... That was strange. What fees will be paid? Why? Who to? Oil is going to China..Why refine and then ship? Its more expensive.

I think he even deleted his own post im trying to answer as he knows how silly he is. He even had a go at my spelling (which is shocking) and made more mistakes than me..Typical Trump voter.
 
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b4ds33d

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Most company's dont pay tax due to operating losses.. Company tax is paid in the country the business is based in (Do they even have an office in America?). Tarrifs only apply if they exists and are not neg in the contact if they do. A Canandian company has already been chosen to build it ..i dont see what he was going for in regard to an American one... That was strange. What fees will be paid? Why? Who to? Oil is going to China..Why refine and then ship? Its more expensive.

I think he even deleted his own post im trying to answer as he knows how silly he is. He even had a go at my spelling (which is shocking) and made his more mistakes than me..Typical Trump voter.
i didn't delete anything. you decided to act like a child, that's when i bowed out. you can have it pal, zero desire to expend a single calorie of energy dealing with mental vegetarians. and i corrected your grammar, not your spelling, because instead of engage in the conversation you thought it was a good idea to instead insult my intelligence. so yeah, that's what happened there. and the guy you replied to was bitching about people like you and agreeing with me, but you were too full hubris and bullshit to see that eh?
 

Lucky Luke

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i didn't delete anything. you decided to act like a child, that's when i bowed out. you can have it pal, zero desire to expend a single calorie of energy dealing with mental vegetarians. and i corrected your grammar, not your spelling, because instead of engage in the conversation you thought it was a good idea to instead insult my intelligence. so yeah, that's what happened there. and the guy you replied to was bitching about people like you and agreeing with me, but you were too full hubris and bullshit to see that eh?
"I", "You",..I wont go on.....

You really think I didnt know who the Nazi was referring to in his bitching?..my God..
 

b4ds33d

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"I", "You",..I wont go on.....
you won't go on because there's nothing for you to go on. you had no point, and that hasn't changed. i don't use caps unless i'm going to enunciate something. the funniest part is you thinking mikeyboy was agreeing with you lmao when in fact he was complaining about you. GREAT JOB THERE SMART GUY!!
 

Budget Buds

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"We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me?
Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet? I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos.
Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years.
Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? George Carlin.
 

Lucky Luke

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You clearly didnt read my last line... (thats a reply to the guy who like's to correct grammar whist not using capital letters..)
 
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ttystikk

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True story. I went to a grandchild birthday party. Talking to a deplorable redneck relative and he was talking hunting. I have a few acres and have been trying to reintroduce native secies by providing habitat. I hunted many years ago because we had to. I take no pleasure in killing. We butchered every fall etc. as we farmed. He said "yeah you don't see many quail anymore. Me and my buddy saw 4 but only got 2". Yeah we are deplorable. He couldn't connect the relationship. He eats deplorable and is younger than me. His list of medications he takes is deplorable. He'll never retire. Lives in a singlewide. Sad
I wonder if people like him might have voted for the Chump out of some twisted sense of shadenfruede.
 

ttystikk

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"We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me?
Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet? I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos.
Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years.
Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? George Carlin.
If we work together, we CAN save the planet- for ourselves. He was right; Mother Earth gives no fucks. But if we want to keep living, WE damn well better.

RIP, George. Ya done good.
 

Lucky Luke

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"We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me?
Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet? I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos.
Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years.
Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? George Carlin.
It aint just the planet..its the life on it that we as Humans kill with no thought at all, not a one...like a plastic bag killing a dolphin...WE just go about extexting shit..for no reason.
 

mikeyboy2121

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Hey tittystick!

Wow we're the cause of the next extinction? That's a new one. When is this supposed to be happening and what exactly is causing it?
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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OH NO, THE ONLY THING STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE APOCALYPSE WAS DEDICATED BUREAUCRATS AHHHHHHH. Liberalism is a cult of big government, confirmed.

Impossible to have an intelligent logical discussion with people like this. I tried and got accusations and insults for my efforts. Now I return the favor. These people don't want to talk, they want to fight. Don't try to be nice, they'll just spit in your face. That's my take on it...
You basically have to look at this place like an infinite prank phone call.
 

Budget Buds

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I'm not ignorant, The planet is getting warmer, The michigan winters are not the same as they were 15 years ago. But the earth goes through cycles , This is one of them, I dont believe that we are dumping enough co2 into the atmosphere to cause it, Like a drop in the ocean so to speak, the clean air act just put alot of people out of business and made lots of folks around here mad as hell , I'm sure the woodstoves are the cause of the bad air. Hell the last forrest fire put off more smoke in one day then all the woodburners in michigan have for the last 100 years.
 

SneekyNinja

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I'm not ignorant, The planet is getting warmer, The michigan winters are not the same as they were 15 years ago. But the earth goes through cycles , This is one of them, I dont believe that we are dumping enough co2 into the atmosphere to cause it, Like a drop in the ocean so to speak, the clean air act just put alot of people out of business and made lots of folks around here mad as hell , I'm sure the woodstoves are the cause of the bad air. Hell the last forrest fire put off more smoke in one day then all the woodburners in michigan have for the last 100 years.
You're a serious dumb-dumb and extremely ignorant.

You have absolutely no idea what the carbon output of any of the things you mentioned are, pure anecdotal BS.

Forest fires don't "make CO2", they release whatever they've captured but then produce fertile soil and the forest regrows to re-sequester the CO2.
 

ArcticGranite

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I'm not ignorant, The planet is getting warmer, The michigan winters are not the same as they were 15 years ago. But the earth goes through cycles , This is one of them, I dont believe that we are dumping enough co2 into the atmosphere to cause it, Like a drop in the ocean so to speak, the clean air act just put alot of people out of business and made lots of folks around here mad as hell , I'm sure the woodstoves are the cause of the bad air. Hell the last forrest fire put off more smoke in one day then all the woodburners in michigan have for the last 100 years.
We've had 6 million acres of boreal forest go up in smoke. In the interior folks are required not to burn solid fuel in the winter due to non attainment. EPA reg. They burn regardless. Exempt from measurement of output are aircraft, trains, power plants, governmental vehicles. Major contributors. Hypocritical. Makes no sense. When forest fires rage in summer, ahh that's just nature.
 
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