Official 'FUCK THE POLICE' Thread. (Examples of Police Brutality)

[curious2garden]

Britain is not here. And I think you'll be hard pressed to find an armed bobbin anywhere. Sewing machines generally do not roll on treads and fire cannon.

You have not established that they sell the same unit to military and police. Show me the civilian order form police MUST use when buying a military item. (Easy ... the military have a rather clear model numbering protocol. all you have to do is show civilian sales of the M(number) Military Widget.) Without that, your lie is just a lie.

Lol, me an apologist for fascism. I guess I am just not German enough for you.

LOL no matter how I read the instructions and how many times I put it together it was always a machine gun!

 

[curious2garden]

More crime, higher Ins. rates


Ins. Companies. One of the last expenses a city makes before bankruptcy.

Theres a method to the madness.

Yup subtle enslavement while we all are distracted by the sucker fish at the edges!

Edited: for english (very bad english)

 

[whitebb2727]

"Military style" is not the same as "military"

Actually they are synonymous. All military equipment is made by civilians. LEO can take that money and buy direct from the manufacturer.

Red Jacket also has supplied the military. The show also showed them trying to secure a military contract with prototype weapons.

Lets look at ar15's. M&P15 by Smith and Wesson is marketed directly to LEO and the military. Hell there is only a handful of shops that make all at parts.

Slowly our police are becoming more militarized.

 

[cannabineer]

Actually they are synonymous. All military equipment is made by civilians. LEO can take that money and buy direct from the manufacturer.

Red Jacket also has supplied the military. The show also showed them trying to secure a military contract with prototype weapons.

Lets look at ar15's. M&P15 by Smith and Wesson is marketed directly to LEO and the military. Hell there is only a handful of shops that make all at parts.

Slowly our police are becoming more militarized.

That is distinct from the police buying actual, serialized military equipment.

I have long argued against the police getting what other civilians cannot. Nonetheless that does not change the simple fact that applying pressure to the police is the wrong placement of the lever. Legislators make the laws police must then enforce. If I want to change police practices, I look first to who gives the police their marching orders.

ceterum censeo I believe you said the other day that you think it is a good idea fror police to fear for their lives when on duty. Did I hear that right? If so, how possibly does that improve citizen/police relations? That sounds like a recipe for division and ultimate war to me. I do not want to be in or near a civil war ... those are nastier than the name suggests.

 

[whitebb2727]

Why would they need to 'purchase' something when they are given more than they can use from the Feds via direct grants, DLA and Dept. of Homeland Security. I know out here in Los Angeles a lot of that money went to education and training etc... The important question is why are the feds so invested in militarizing local law enforcement? Who benefits?

The soldier with boots on the ground is never the issue he's only the most visible part of the equation and while we argue over good cops/bad cops the plot continues from the top enslaving us all. This is not going to end well when reasonable rational Americans are willing to shrug and accept arbitrary execution without due process of our police and expect that somehow that will resolve with less restrictions as opposed to more. While the people behind this militarization process smile and continue the enslavement.

Edit: Sorry whitebb I've got a horrendous cold and am posting under the influence of tons of cold medicine LOL. Let me see if I can be more succinct in my argument.

There are many bad police currently but I'm arguing that is a symptom of a MUCH bigger issue that can't be solved by targeting the police. Until we fix the root cause, from the top, merely treating symptoms isn't a fix. Hope that was a little clearer

I agree with a lot of what you said.

Why would they buy it when they can get it for free? Several reasons.

What the military purchases is distinct from what nonmilitary agencies buy. A third-hand account of what someone else saw on TV does not constitute a reference.

Produce one single untruth in what Annie posted. Just one.

Dude come on. I built my ar15 with mil-spec parts bought off the civilian market.


The shop in question is real and supplies civilian, police and military weapons. They sell nfa and class 3 weapons. Full auto. They also are able to build full autos for police and military units.

It is quite common now to buy mil-spec parts on the civilian market. It is also quit common to falsify that your product is mil-spec.

I wont name it but a few hours from me there is a gun shop that does the same thing. They cater to police. You outta see the shit they come in and buy.

 

[curious2garden]

I agree with a lot of what you said.

Why would they buy it when they can get it for free? Several reasons.


Dude come on. I built my ar15 with mil-spec parts bought off the civilian market.


The shop in question is real and supplies civilian, police and military weapons. They sell nfa and class 3 weapons. Full auto. They also are able to build full autos for police and military units.

It is quite common now to buy mil-spec parts on the civilian market. It is also quit common to falsify that your product is mil-spec.

I wont name it but a few hours from me there is a gun shop that does the same thing. They cater to police. You outta see the shit they come in and buy.

The problem is the federal militarization of local LEO. There is an agenda.

 

[ttystikk]

Actually they are synonymous. All military equipment is made by civilians. LEO can take that money and buy direct from the manufacturer.

Red Jacket also has supplied the military. The show also showed them trying to secure a military contract with prototype weapons.

Lets look at ar15's. M&P15 by Smith and Wesson is marketed directly to LEO and the military. Hell there is only a handful of shops that make all at parts.

Slowly our police are becoming more militarized.

NOT slowly. It's amazing how fast the civilian fascist forces have bellied up to the military hardware bar, and watch how greedily they consume!

 

[cannabineer]

I agree with a lot of what you said.

Why would they buy it when they can get it for free? Several reasons.


Dude come on. I built my ar15 with mil-spec parts bought off the civilian market.


The shop in question is real and supplies civilian, police and military weapons. They sell nfa and class 3 weapons. Full auto. They also are able to build full autos for police and military units.

It is quite common now to buy mil-spec parts on the civilian market. It is also quit common to falsify that your product is mil-spec.

I wont name it but a few hours from me there is a gun shop that does the same thing. They cater to police. You outta see the shit they come in and buy.

Mil spec and military are not the same thing. I can buy mil-spec bits online all day long, and they were never part of a TO&E. The argument doesn't hinge on mil spec but on military assets being given to mthe police via the 1033 program.

 

[ttystikk]

The problem is the federal militarization of local LEO. There is an agenda.

The locals are ALL FOR IT.

But you're a coward, because you won't engage in debate with me.

That would be the first time I've called you a name, btw. It fits.

 

[cannabineer]

The locals are ALL FOR IT.

But you're a coward, because you won't engage in debate with me.

That would be the first time I've called you a name, btw. It fits.

She did engage in direct debate and you ignored everything she contributed. You are a liar.

 

[whitebb2727]

That is distinct from the police buying actual, serialized military equipment.

I have long argued against the police getting what other civilians cannot. Nonetheless that does not change the simple fact that applying pressure to the police is the wrong placement of the lever. Legislators make the laws police must then enforce. If I want to change police practices, I look first to who gives the police their marching orders.

ceterum censeo I believe you said the other day that you think it is a good idea fror police to fear for their lives when on duty. Did I hear that right? If so, how possibly does that improve citizen/police relations? That sounds like a recipe for division and ultimate war to me. I do not want to be in or near a civil war ... those are nastier than the name suggests.

It is distinct? How? That was my whole point. The equipment does the same job and identical in every way except a number.

Go to any large gunstore that caters to police and watch the shit they come in and buy. Those cops don't make that much so it has to be department money.

I don't want civil war either. It is bound to happen. No society has escaped unscathed in history. As a society becomes bigger the more people with opposing ideas.

Fine, no fear of death then. Kind of comes with the job. They need a fear of something to keep them in check.

 

[ttystikk]

Mil spec and military are not the same thing. I can buy mil-spec bits online all day long, and they were never part of a TO&E. The argument doesn't hinge on mil spec but on military assets being given to mthe police via the 1033 program.

Don't you attempt to reframe my arguments, hot shot.

I said police forces are getting military style weapons AS WELL AS actual military hardware.

If the weapon performs the same as 'mil spec' as it does in 'civilian spec', then your argument dies on the thorns of difference without distinction.

Go suck more cop dick; I want to see the motherfuckers disarmed. They can have a night stick if they can manage to use it without violating people's civil rights.

 

[whitebb2727]

Forgot to add the shop link.
http://www.redjacketfirearms.com/

 

[ttystikk]

She did engage in direct debate and you ignored everything she contributed. You are a liar.

I didn't ignore it, I have my own points to make.

You're a cheap verbal trickster, 'bobbin'.

 

[ttystikk]

It is distinct? How? That was my whole point. The equipment does the same job and identical in every way except a number.

Go to any large gunstore that caters to police and watch the shit they come in and buy. Those cops don't make that much so it has to be department money.

I don't want civil war either. It is bound to happen. No society has escaped unscathed in history. As a society becomes bigger the more people with opposing ideas.

Fine, no fear of death then. Kind of comes with the job. They need a fear of something to keep them in check.

Agreed. Because district attorney's offices sure aren't holding them accountable.

 

[cannabineer]

Don't you attempt to reframe my arguments, hot shot.

I said police forces are getting military style weapons AS WELL AS actual military hardware.

Yes you asserted it and gave zero backup. I do not believe you.

If the weapon performs the same as 'mil spec' as it does in 'civilian spec', then your argument dies on the thorns of difference without distinction.

No. Military and mil spec are completely different things. Ask any procurement pro. Your obfuscation didn't work.

Go suck more cop dick; [/quote] Fuck you.

I want to see the motherfuckers disarmed

. They can have a night stick if they can manage to use it without violating people's civil rights.

If you really want to achieve the bolded, the laws are the place to accomplish that. Vote accordingly. Otherwise you are slyly advocating murder, and long before then I say No.

 

[whitebb2727]

Mil spec and military are not the same thing. I can buy mil-spec bits online all day long, and they were never part of a TO&E. The argument doesn't hinge on mil spec but on military assets being given to mthe police via the 1033 program.

I never said they didn't get free stuff from the government. I'm just saying they buy it to. So what it wasn't in the military. A military ar and one bought from the store are equally deadly.

 

[cannabineer]

I didn't ignore it, I have my own points to make.

You're a cheap verbal trickster, 'bobbin'.

Do you even know what a bobbin is?

You have not made a single point yet, and you imperil your honor by having called Annie a liar and you will not back it up. Not only are you a sore loser, but you are publicly displaying a serious lack of character.

So for my having demolished your "not German enough" argument, I am a cheap trickster!! Oh is that what the millennials are calling "someone with an unpopular opinion we cannot knock down on its merits"? Oh Lord ... please supply me with a better grade of idiot. I am getting bored.

 

[cannabineer]

I never said they didn't get free stuff from the government. I'm just saying they buy it to. So what it wasn't in the military. A military ar and one bought from the store are equally deadly.

But that is not the point being argued! Police can ONLY get military hardware via the 1033 program. Mere "mil spec" is a separate issue, and imo it clouds the main argument that was raised some pages back.

 

[ttystikk]

Yes you asserted it and gave zero backup. I do not believe you. No. Military and mil spec are completely different things. Ask any procurement pro. Your obfuscation didn't work.

Okay, genius- enlighten us as to the FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCES between 'military' and 'mil spec'.

Different numbers stamped on the same frame, as much different as an Olds Bravada was from a Chevy Blazer. It's a cosmetic difference and your pathetic attempts to point out differences only serve to expose where your real loyalties lie.

You're a closet fascist, aren't you? You're fine with ignoring the civil rights of American citizens, aren't you?

Just admit it. You'll feel better.