Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[iHearAll]

I have a slight mg deficiency I tested my soil ph and it was 6.2 do I need to add lime or something to get the ph up to stop the mg deficiency ?
I also need to know if adding ph up and or down to my water is safe for rols soil ?

yea, you can water in a gypsum or lime tea if youd like but clean your container you brew the tea in afterwards. itll throw the pH of for the next few teas. try adding some epsom salt. ~~~1T per gallon and let it dissolve before watering in. then dont add any more until you see a mg deficiency since its ionic

 

[CallmeTex]

I have a slight mg deficiency I tested my soil ph and it was 6.2 do I need to add lime or something to get the ph up to stop the mg deficiency ?
I also need to know if adding ph up and or down to my water is safe for rols soil ?

I had a similar situation outdoors before when I didn't let my mix break down enough before planting. Top dressing with a couple tablespoons of garden lime should help raise the ph. I wouldn't recommend any ph up in the water though.

 

[GreenSanta]

I have a slight mg deficiency I tested my soil ph and it was 6.2 do I need to add lime or something to get the ph up to stop the mg deficiency ?
I also need to know if adding ph up and or down to my water is safe for rols soil ?

I never use a pH meter, it is what it is. Use mulch and worms, properly made compost should be neutral so creating habitat for worms as mulch will help with soil ph

 

[malignant]

I never use a pH meter, it is what it is. Use mulch and worms, properly made compost should be neutral so creating habitat for worms as mulch will help with soil ph

I only use it once in a great while more as a check up on my organic material. Poop is poop.

 

[JayY2015]

I had a similar situation outdoors before when I didn't let my mix break down enough before planting. Top dressing with a couple tablespoons of garden lime should help raise the ph. I wouldn't recommend any ph up in the water though.

I use RO water and it is usually pretty low like 6 what does using ph up and down do to the soil ?Should I use tap water instead of ro ? I have some dolomite lime is it ok to use ?

 

[CallmeTex]

I use RO water and it is usually pretty low like 6 what does using ph up and down do to the soil ?Should I use tap water instead of ro ? I have some dolomite lime is it ok to use ?

I like Green Santa's idea of using mulch and worms or just worm castings to balance the soil and help give them what they need. RO water is fine, as is 6 ph water. I'm discouraged from using tap water because of the numerous chem. I use alfalfa pellets as a mulch which are filled with good stuff. Dolomite lime is what you want, see if it works.

 

[bizfactory]

What do you think guys? Mg deficiency? I've been doing foliars with light epsom salt with no real change for the better. I top dressed with ewc mixed with 1/4c BAS nutrient blend about 5 days ago in anticipation for flower.

 

[CallmeTex]

What do you think guys? Mg deficiency? I've been doing foliars with light epsom salt with no real change for the better. I top dressed with ewc mixed with 1/4c BAS nutrient blend about 5 days ago in anticipation for flower.

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I'm not sure about this one? Are they still showing signs?

 

[iHearAll]

looks like iron def. idk how that happens but i just remember a guidesheet showing iron def with the new growth coming out yellow.

or you've backed off the nitrogen? i guess yea cal mag would block out N. hmmm

im seeing something similar on my brw growth too. i was going to ignore it for a while and see if it comes back cuz i had just transplanted twice (first soil was too hot) pretty sure i just have transplant shock tho. the compost pile is hungry

 

[bizfactory]

I'm not sure about this one? Are they still showing signs?

looks like iron def. idk how that happens but i just remember a guidesheet showing iron def with the new growth coming out yellow.

or you've backed off the nitrogen? i guess yea cal mag would block out N. hmmm

im seeing something similar on my brw growth too. i was going to ignore it for a while and see if it comes back cuz i had just transplanted twice (first soil was too hot) pretty sure i just have transplant shock tho. the compost pile is hungry

It is definitely not getting worse...I think the top dress of the BAS craft blend, comfrey and ewc is turning them around. Good thing too because I flippped on Tuesday (so 4 days in). They seem to be growing fine but the new growth doesn't look perfect.

 

[DonBrennon]

looks like iron def. idk how that happens but i just remember a guidesheet showing iron def with the new growth coming out yellow.

or you've backed off the nitrogen? i guess yea cal mag would block out N. hmmm

im seeing something similar on my brw growth too. i was going to ignore it for a while and see if it comes back cuz i had just transplanted twice (first soil was too hot) pretty sure i just have transplant shock tho. the compost pile is hungry

Those were my thought's exactly.................then I thought, a tablespoon of bloodmeal per pot, topdressed before next watering should sort that right out. What do you reckon?

I know a lot of people don't like bloodmeal, but it does have it's uses in organics

 

[iHearAll]

Those were my thought's exactly.................then I thought, a tablespoon of bloodmeal per pot, topdressed before next watering should sort that right out. What do you reckon?

I know a lot of people don't like bloodmeal, but it does have it's uses in organics

hellyea i forgot that blood meal has Fe!! i was scratching my head with the Fe source.good thinkin. yea im running out of blood meal. i use it in teas and my gallon finally ran out.

edit: id just make tea every time but its really the same thing. there's only a slim chance the large particles would work their way into the root system. so its really just like a slow release tea but you could be saving the spent blood meal and mixing it in seeding soil.

 

[GreenSanta]

does anyone have a lot of experience with growing with seaweed? I ve been getting great results using nothing but liquid (or powdered) seaweed for my vegging plants and also my flowering plants are looking super healthy since Ive started using once in a while. of course my pots are filled with other old amendments and mostly compost. my question is has anyone had negative effects from using too much in flowering? thanks

 

[bizfactory]

Coconut and top dressing malted barley powder....redundant?

 

[DonBrennon]

does anyone have a lot of experience with growing with seaweed? I ve been getting great results using nothing but liquid (or powdered) seaweed for my vegging plants and also my flowering plants are looking super healthy since Ive started using once in a while. of course my pots are filled with other old amendments and mostly compost. my question is has anyone had negative effects from using too much in flowering? thanks

I think @DonTesla has been experimenting with high amounts of kelp in his mix with great results.

 

[GreenSanta]

I think @DonTesla has been experimenting with high amounts of kelp in his mix with great results.

thanks looking forward to hearing from @DonTesla

 

[DonTesla]

Kelp is awesome stuff

What brand and form are u gonna rock

 

[GreenSanta]

Kelp is awesome stuff

What brand and form are u gonna rock

http://www.welcomeharvestfarm.com/p_description2.htm#solublekelp
that's the stuff Ive been using right now. it's powdered form, I always eyeball it, what I have noticed is everytime I thought I went overboard the next morning the plants look super ubber healthy almost bluer than green... also I have yet to actually over do it even on seedlings. Since then Ive been using it here and there in the flower room where I normally use nothing but tap water and I was starting to wonder if I could actually overdo it to the point that it might ruin the taste but so far so good. nothing but healthy plants!

 

[DonTesla]

http://www.welcomeharvestfarm.com/p_description2.htm#solublekelp
that's the stuff Ive been using right now. it's powdered form, I always eyeball it, what I have noticed is everytime I thought I went overboard the next morning the plants look super ubber healthy almost bluer than green... also I have yet to actually over do it even on seedlings. Since then Ive been using it here and there in the flower room where I normally use nothing but tap water and I was starting to wonder if I could actually overdo it to the point that it might ruin the taste but so far so good. nothing but healthy plants!

I be down with WHF

Rock their kelp a lot myself, actually
Definitely something babies can handle more than other amendments

Do u know what percentage your at rn in your mix, roughly?
Of total volume
..That's what I prefer as a measurement
Once you start topdressing tho, it gets harder to measure
And harder to make it burn clean and ultra smooth
Not that you won't see great results meanwhile

It's fkn packed with great stuff

..what size pots are you flowering in?
The smaller, the higher I might recommend
(Harder to correct or weaken a big batch)
1.5% if doing over 20gal vs 2.5% total volume, if doing a 10 gal less, for example
Unsoaked, aka pre-expansion numbers shown

I measure then soak then sprinkle, then wait.
No topdress or foliar after, unless cloning

Kelp my fav amendment to add last, other than aeration of course

 

[GreenSanta]

hey how about this guys : http://www.alika-inc.com/product.asp?cat=1&Classid=3&Nclassid=6&i=3
coco discs ... when you are in a hurry, might be a great way to mulch your pots... sprinkle some dry amendments before placing a couple of those disks on top of a pot, voila!!! I gotta give this a try, such a clean yet effective mulch.