I hear you but w/ lenses there's deffinetly No lack of light or intensity.
The canopies are actually twice as bright by the eye & the footprints are on point.
Things are picking up. I guess I'm just buggin.
Why I'd expect colas on a plant from 150 watts a plant is beyond me. The SE-450 had 3 plants under it. Any one of those 3 could've taken up the whole footprint on its own.
The HH X5-500 had 2 plants under it. 225 Burple watts each.
Both had 100 watts of Cloak on the sides to but that wasn't helping the colas form.
The Cloak is designed to run many plants at a low wattage to each one.
My HPS plants have an average of 600 watts each plant. If I want to have led plants that look anything like them, I'd need to be @ around 350-400 watts a plant. Granted, those plants are bigger so maybe we'll say 300-350 led watts a plant would suffice for these medium sized plants.
Now that I added the Pro-4 to the SE-450 I'm @ 283 watts each plant & they are fattening up rapidly. On the HH side I've replaced that light w/ a Pro-4 which will give me 200 watts each plant but much better light quality & quantity.
The SunCloak is running @ 150 watts each plant.
So, aside from the things I did differant that may have slowed things down, I'm thinking the reason they look behind to me is because I'm comparing 150w plants to 600w plants.
Duh, that's not fair at all.
The 1 added light & the HH switch just happened a few days ago w/ hopes of retaining yields. Maybe I will a little. But the whole point here is: I should not expect similiar results @ 1/8 the wattage used per plant.
Next run will have 400 Amare watts per plant. Then & only then can I compare my HPS plants to my led plants.
Does that make sense to everyone?
As for now, the thread continues. The plants are healthy, & fattening up. They are very, very frosty. More so then my HPS weed by far.
Hopefully I can manage 4 plates out of this.
Better then nothing.
i agree with why you think they are smaller in most regards.
i have had plants that hate defo and are stunted by it.
the cloak with less power per square surface area will always have smaller consistant sized buds.
if the buds are denser under leds then your hps ,looking like they are not as far along,they might not be due to the density.
my lights are diy cxb 3590 at 50 watts per cob and have lens on each and am running mine around 12 to 16 inches away.you are running much farther away.
if you doubled the distance from your hps to the plants what would happen?smaller buds.
i am no expert on leds but running farther to get more coverage is not efficient.if the plants can take the light and have correct environment go closer.
looking great either way.
did you put the hh in your veg?i used to use cheap ebay burple lights exclusivily for veg and they did great.they were no where near as efficient as my cxb lights are in veg though.