My Amare, Hydroponics Hut, & SunCloak Grow

PetFlora

PetFlora

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Big smo said:
Your absolutely right PSUAGRO I'm sure most of us are guessing and guessing is costly. Any recommendations on a certain type or model?
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Amare says when using lenses minimum of ~ 28", seems like a good place to start, especially if the stretch is over
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Take the damn lenses off and drop it to 10- 12 inches above the canopy....... on amare panels your taking an output hit on the reflector&lens; it's stupid imo..... just use the reflectors and wrap reflective material around the grow.

Apogee makes standalone usb connected sensor s....... it's not handy to have a laptop attached, but your saving money on it.

Or the hydrofarm par meter, video floating around here that it's fairly accurate compared to a licor ....... hard to believe though...... your just spot checking sooooooo who cares in the end.
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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PSUAGRO. said:
Take the damn lenses off and drop it to 10- 12 inches above the canopy....... on amare panels your taking an output hit on the reflector&lens; it's stupid imo..... just use the reflectors and wrap reflective material around the grow.

Apogee makes standalone usb connected sensor s....... it's not handy to have a laptop attached, but your saving money on it.

Or the hydrofarm par meter, video floating around here that it's fairly accurate compared to a licor ....... hard to believe though...... your just spot checking sooooooo who cares in the end.
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I hear you but w/ lenses there's deffinetly No lack of light or intensity.
The canopies are actually twice as bright by the eye & the footprints are on point.
Things are picking up. I guess I'm just buggin.
Why I'd expect colas on a plant from 150 watts a plant is beyond me. The SE-450 had 3 plants under it. Any one of those 3 could've taken up the whole footprint on its own.
The HH X5-500 had 2 plants under it. 225 Burple watts each.
Both had 100 watts of Cloak on the sides to but that wasn't helping the colas form.
The Cloak is designed to run many plants at a low wattage to each one.
My HPS plants have an average of 600 watts each plant. If I want to have led plants that look anything like them, I'd need to be @ around 350-400 watts a plant. Granted, those plants are bigger so maybe we'll say 300-350 led watts a plant would suffice for these medium sized plants.
Now that I added the Pro-4 to the SE-450 I'm @ 283 watts each plant & they are fattening up rapidly. On the HH side I've replaced that light w/ a Pro-4 which will give me 200 watts each plant but much better light quality & quantity.
The SunCloak is running @ 150 watts each plant.
So, aside from the things I did differant that may have slowed things down, I'm thinking the reason they look behind to me is because I'm comparing 150w plants to 600w plants.
Duh, that's not fair at all.
The 1 added light & the HH switch just happened a few days ago w/ hopes of retaining yields. Maybe I will a little. But the whole point here is: I should not expect similiar results @ 1/8 the wattage used per plant.
Next run will have 400 Amare watts per plant. Then & only then can I compare my HPS plants to my led plants.
Does that make sense to everyone?
As for now, the thread continues. The plants are healthy, & fattening up. They are very, very frosty. More so then my HPS weed by far.
Hopefully I can manage 4 plates out of this.
Better then nothing.
 
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Big smo

Big smo

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A guy over in afn did a test grow with a new light. New water only soil and new strain. The outcome was shit and people blamed a tried and true light. To many variables.

Defoliating surely slows down progress. It probably works but you have to figure you stripped your plants naked.
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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Big smo said:
A guy over in afn did a test grow with a new light. New water only soil and new strain. The outcome was shit and people blamed a tried and true light. To many variables.

Defoliating surely slows down progress. It probably works but you have to figure you stripped your plants naked.
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Yup, I believe that to be one reason. I did it at day 4 or so & again at day 20. I'm not usually a DeFoliatir either. Just a Big-Leafer.
I also think running Co2 super high by accident in the beginning stunted their growth. Much higher then 15-1700 is not good. Forget about the first 15-20 days of it. I was monitoring the other room instead w/ the one meter I had after checking the regulation once. Super sealed room. Dumb, simple mistakes can cost you.
I think those are the 2 main reasons.
Then of course the plant per light thing is huge. I'm dying to just throw one of my regular plants under the 450.
 
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Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Big smo said:
A guy over in afn did a test grow with a new light. New water only soil and new strain. The outcome was shit and people blamed a tried and true light. To many variables.

Defoliating surely slows down progress. It probably works but you have to figure you stripped your plants naked.
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Didn't slow any of my 10 different strains down one bit.
 
Hybridway

Hybridway

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Big smo said:
Then definitely 1 vs 3 will be a huge difference. Someone just told me that new test show anything over 1000ppm is a waste. Not sure what to believe anymore.
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I usually shoot for 1250-1400 w/ a few 800 drops between lights if that, using my eyecromiter! lol!
Ooooops, thought we were talking PPFD.

1200-1500 optimal Co2 PPM.
 
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Big smo

Big smo

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It's unbelievable how much longer my bottles last dropping 500ppm. I was doing 1.5 a week between my 3 spaces now 1 lasts me 2 weeks. That's a 60% savings for 30% less ppm
 
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