Voter ID Laws

Catfish1966 said:
The 0.007% figure is for CONVICTIONS, in a field where prosecution is almost impossible to prosecute without voter ID. Your whole argument is a lie. And, of course, you add the typical argument used by the political wing of the Klan, "disagree with me and you are a racist!"
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You clearly don't know anything about this subject, Red. Why do you worry about a non-problem when the actions of right wing politicians are disenfranchising tens of thousands of people in important districts for the upcoming election. Talk about fraud, that's the real one. The courts say so too. That really chaps you ass doesn't it? Scalia died just in time to prevent the right wingers on the court from backing those racist Republicans from stealing votes away from legal voters.

And then that loser, Benedict Donald has the gall to cry "unfair" when his own actions are the reason for losing. White supremacists are an entitled bunch of shits, that's for sure.
 
MuyLocoNC said:
It's quite simple, CCW permits and military IDs are issued by the government. Student IDs are issued by liberal douchebag businesses/institutions that are operated and administered by liberal douchebags known to bend or break any law to further their agenda. Ends justifies the means, doesn't buy you much credibility.
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Man you scream myopic half wit at the top of your lungs in that post.
 
Fogdog said:
You clearly don't know anything about this subject, Red. Why do you worry about a non-problem when the actions of right wing politicians are disenfranchising tens of thousands of people in important districts for the upcoming election. Talk about fraud, that's the real one. The courts say so too. That really chaps you ass doesn't it? Scalia died just in time to prevent the right wingers on the court from backing those racist Republicans from stealing votes away from legal voters.

And then that loser, Benedict Donald has the gall to cry "unfair" when his own actions are the reason for losing. White supremacists are an entitled bunch of shits, that's for sure.
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You making up numbers does imply you know anything, just that you will lie to achieve your agenda. Stop calling me Red
 
Wilderb said:
I know many states with conservative governments had put in place voter id laws. I have heard the "reasons" for these and have a hard time believing their need. More important, why are these same states making it harder to gain the needed ID?

I live in a voter ID state, WI. I had to renew my DL this week. So there is ONE DMV in 40 mile radius, 3 in a 75 mile radius. The one that is closest is open 8-5 Tue & Th. Other two are same hours, M-F.

So if you work a normal job with 8-5 hours, how are you going to get this done?
I suppose "on your lunch hour" is reasonable. Or is it?
I went to the closest.
Just to RENEW my DL took 90 min. Paperwork was ready, had everything I needed. I asked the guy at the counter if this was normal. He said that it was actually very fast because they were having a good day. Said to get an Id from scratch takes several hours IF the person has the proper paperwork, which he said is unusual. So it takes some people MORE than one trip to gain this id.
And my area is by far one of the better ones in the state. Some places to the west and north have dmvs that are only open 1 or 2 days a month.

The only voter fraud I know for a fact that has occurred in this state has happened in the legislature. Several times our lawmakers have been caught voting for other members who are absent. This was documented by John Oliver awhile back.

Explain to me the real reason for voter id. If it is really to "protect" our elections, then show me the fraud.
Shouldn't we want as many as possible to participate in our elections?

And if you agree with Paul Weyrich, and you don't think everyone should be able to vote, have the balls to say it and explain.
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Voter suppression is the new republican answer to making the middle class shut up and accept their monied overlords.

Oligopoly on parade! Don't like it? Hurry up and get rich! Oh, you can't? You're just lazy!

Oh, the irony; this country was built by people who left one aristocratic country after another- and whose grandchildren are now creating here.

Tax ALL income over $1 million at 50%, NO deductions. Golly, that's a squeeze? Try going hungry and homeless instead.
 
Catfish1966 said:
You making up numbers does imply you know anything, just that you will lie to achieve your agenda. Stop calling me Red
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No Red, your republican party has done most of the lying, committed most of the fraud and is engaging in a nationwide campaign of voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
 
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ttystikk said:
No Red, your republican party has done moat of the lying, committed most of the fraud and is engaging in a nationwide campaign of voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
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Because 5 people couldn't get ID to vote but somehow got a welfare card? Stop calling me Red.
I noticed you seem to have admitted that Democrats are lying. Lol
 
Catfish1966 said:
You making up numbers does imply you know anything, just that you will lie to achieve your agenda. Stop calling me Red
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What numbers were made up, Red? The Republican Party is actively suppressing the vote. The courts agree with me on this. That chaps your ass doesn't it? Because when the facts are reviewed, we find out that this claim of voter ID fraud turns out to be just a false story.
 
Fogdog said:
What numbers were made up, Red? The Republican Party is actively suppressing the vote. The courts agree with me on this. That chaps your ass doesn't it? Because when the facts are reviewed, we find out that this claim of voter ID fraud turns out to be just a false story.
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Some liberal judges do, the Supreme Court doesn't
ttystikk said:
I'm not defending democrats. Where did you get your numbers, Red?
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Yes you are, even when you know they are lying.
 
Catfish1966 said:
Some liberal judges do, the Supreme Court doesn't

Yes you are, even when you know they are lying.
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Scalia died. The SCOTUS could not make a ruling.

Show me the source for your numbers, Red.

Here's one article that says you are either lying or made a fool by a liar:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
2012 Voter Fraud
A list of instances supposedly proving voter fraud in the 2012 U.S. presidential election only demonstrates that some people are really bad at math.

Are you bad at math, Red?

This fraud thing is just Trump setting up for making an excuse when he gets trounced in November. What a loser. With this lie, he's undermining Democracy. Along with toadying up to Putin and selling out US interests for his help, Benedict Donald is a traitor to this country.
 
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