POLL: Should rapist get the death penalty?

Should rape be punishable by death.

  • Yes (Make it a public event)

  • Yes

  • No


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ThickStemz

Well-Known Member
I think it's possible that some rapes could warrant the death penalty, but I think most of those instances rape is just one of several crimes each culminating in a death deserving deed. If the victim is a child or retarded, or if you use extreme violence then I could see the death penalty.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
because i cant physically prove hell exists to torture someone whos done harm the death penalty serves me no purpose and imho gives the person an easy way out
a rapist can rot in jail for life.


and imho you're no better sentencing someone to death and giving them a lethal injection or the chair in my eyes murder is murder you're committing a crime if you are apart of his or her death regardless of what they did.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
because i cant physically prove hell exists to torture someone whos done harm the death penalty serves me no purpose and imho gives the person an easy way out
a rapist can rot in jail for life.


and imho you're no better sentencing someone to death and giving them a lethal injection or the chair in my eyes murder is murder you're committing a crime if you are apart of his or her death regardless of what they did.
So you are saying lets feed a house the disgusting fucks who takes joy in violating the innocent?
If people where to see rape dealt with swiftly by a death penalty they might just think twice.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
the death penalty has been proven not to work. it doesnt solve crime nor does it stop it.
True, the death penalty has been proven not to work at reducing crime, but if all you care about is killing criminals, regardless of its effect on crime, (if your version of justice is punitive rather than reformatory) the death penalty totally works (albeit slowly) in that it successfully kills people.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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True, the death penalty has been proven not to work at reducing crime, but if all you care about is killing criminals, regardless of its effect on crime, (if your version of justice is punitive rather than reformatory) the death penalty totally works (albeit slowly) in that it successfully kills people.
How can it be proven not to reduce crime you remove a potential repeat offender.
Total number of executions since 1976 1,392. I wounder why it doesn't work, because it is barely used.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
So you are saying lets feed a house the disgusting fucks who takes joy in violating the innocent?
If people where to see rape dealt with swiftly by a death penalty they might just think twice.
Well, it's much cheaper to give them life in prison than it is to execute them. Death penalty cases cost the state between $500,000-$1,000,000 more than non-death penalty cases, and a death row inmate costs $90,000 more per year than an inmate in gen pop.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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Well, it's much cheaper to give them life in prison than it is to execute them. Death penalty cases cost the state between $500,000-$1,000,000 more than non-death penalty cases, and a death row inmate costs $90,000 more per year than an inmate in gen pop.
How about we reduce this price down to 10$ worth of fucking rope. The reason those numbers are so high is so prisons can use us as cash cows, you don't want to get rid of the thing making you money.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
How can it be proven not to reduce crime you remove a potential repeat offender.
Total number of executions since 1976 1,392. I wounder why it doesn't work, because it is barely used.
There are countries with the death penalty for rape and they have some of the highest rates of rape in the world. There is no correlation between instituting the death penalty for a crime and reductions in that crime. "Scientific studies have consistently failed to demonstrate that executions deter people from committing crime any more than long prison sentences. Moreover, states without the death penalty have much lower murder rates. The South accounts for 80% of US executions and has the highest regional murder rate." As a matter of fact when states stop executing people, the murder rate goes down. Explain that.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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There are countries with the death penalty for rape and they have some of the highest rates of rape in the world. There is no correlation between instituting the death penalty for a crime and reductions in that crime. "Scientific studies have consistently failed to demonstrate that executions deter people from committing crime any more than long prison sentences. Moreover, states without the death penalty have much lower murder rates. The South accounts for 80% of US executions and has the highest regional murder rate." As a matter of fact when states stop executing people, the murder rate goes down. Explain that.
Cite me a site. Tell me this does it not remove all possibility of a repeat offender for rape. Also the states don't execute rapist so that doesn't really hold any water in this conversation.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Cite me a site. Tell me this does it not remove all possibility of a repeat offender for rape. Also the states don't execute rapist so that doesn't really hold any water in this conversation.
Yes it does, but it won't stop a new offender from committing rape, and is no more effective at preventing repeat offenses than a life sentence would be. As to your second assertion, you were also questioning whether the death penalty works to deter crime, period, so they totally do hold water. If it doesn't work to deter murder, it doesn't work. And if it doesn't work to deter murder, why would it work to deter rape?
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
Yes it does, but it won't stop a new offender from committing rape, and is no more effective at preventing repeat offenses than a life sentence would be. As to your second assertion, you were also questioning whether the death penalty works to deter crime, period, so they totally do hold water. If it doesn't work to deter murder, it doesn't work. And if it doesn't work to deter murder, why would it work to deter rape?
Look at the astoundingly low execution numbers no duh it doesn't make a reduction in crime because it is barely even used. A life sentence is a drag on the economy. 85% of the counties in the US have not executed someone in 45 years .
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Cite me a site.
Have at it:

(http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=82)
"A July 2009 study titled "DO EXECUTIONS LOWER HOMICIDE RATES?: THE VIEWS OF LEADING CRIMINOLOGISTS" by Michael L. Radelet and Traci L. LaCock, demonstrates an overwhelming consensus among criminologists that the empirical research conducted on the deterrence question strongly supports the conclusion that the death penalty does not add deterrent effects to those already achieved by long imprisonment."
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Look at the astoundingly low execution numbers no duh it doesn't make a reduction in crime because it is barely even used. A life sentence is a drag on the economy. 85% of the counties in the US have not executed someone in 45 years .
It's not just America, world wide countries that execute criminals do not have lower crime rates. "Fagan and two collaborators recently compared murder rates in Hong Kong, where capital punishment was abolished in 1993, and Singapore, where a death sentence is mandatory for murder and other crimes and is typically administered within a year and a half. The researchers found little difference between the two Asian metropolises."
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Look at the astoundingly low execution numbers no duh it doesn't make a reduction in crime because it is barely even used. A life sentence is a drag on the economy. 85% of the counties in the US have not executed someone in 45 years .
And they all have lower murder rates than the ones that actually do execute people. Hmmmmmmmmmm
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
Total number of forcible rapes in 2012--------------------78,287
Total number of people currently on death row ----------3,261
Total number of people currently in the USA-----323,995,528
Hmmmmmm

The death penalty is not applied correctly. We are not executing enough people to make the system work correctly. The deaths should be held as a public viewing at a courthouse or other public government facility.

EDIT: RAPIST HAVE A 35% LIKELY HOOD TO REPEAT SEXUAL OFFENSES....
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
Total number of forcible rapes in 2012--------------------78,287
Total number of people currently on death row ----------3,261
Total number of people currently in the USA-----323,995,528
Hmmmmmm

The death penalty is not applied correctly. We are not executing enough people to make the system work correctly. The deaths should be held as a public viewing at a courthouse or other public government facility.
Again, you ignore the simple fact that where executions are most common, murder rates are the highest. Also, international statistics do not support you. If you were correct, the more people a country executes the lower its crime rates should be. That is not the case. As I have pointed out. Over and over. And over.
But by all means, keep ignoring the plethora of information in front of you. You probably know better than 88% of criminologists.
"That study found that over 88 per cent of the criminologists did not believe the death penalty deterred murderers."
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-26/fact-check3a-does-the-death-penalty-deter3f/6116030)
 
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