Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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hyroot
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If the resi is empty you can pick them up. But a bit a heavy. When the resi's filled it makes it more difficult. I'd recommend having some help you. It will make it easier and faster. Especially if you have to adjust the stones.after accidentally pulling the tube out..........
But having the bottom watering and the dwc aspect of it makes it possible to run smaller pots with living soil. But we'll see the comparison
I do have (1) 5 gal quantum kush 1 week into flower. I forgot about that one. Then 3 18 gal quantum kushes at different times. So we'll see.
Joedank
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my distributor s are in the soil practically and seem fine . i enjoy the sence of security with blumats .
arudino platform (sp?) based pressure valves attached to the blumats so you can link the system to a solinoid valve . thus watering efficenty and monitoring the bars in real time on a cpu ....I am trying to figure out how to or what i can use to monitor 300 gallons of soil blumats are ok for top but looking at other alternatives for deep soil moisture and monitoring
This is what i am in search for presently for my green house this year blumats are great but i want deep water feeding instead of just top i want to know my root activity and development as well as bunch more
- Depth and amount of irrigation,
- Root activity and development,
- Extent of watertables within or just below a crop's root zone,
- Irrigation timing and forecasting based on water use (known as irrigation scheduling),
- Movement of solutes (salts) through the soil profile,
- Soil temperature.
So if anyone has any ideas or grows almond trees there using this tech i need to speak with you please pm me
Anyways couple updates getting all my solar panels up n running for green house power etc pumps exhaust fans and monitoring equipment auto feed running 6000
liters of totes Water and also couple pictures of my No till flowering girls green house will be no till water only and my nutrient line i am making and hoping to market in next year or so
a new meaning to Liquid Gold 100 % pure vegan organic nute line so far it appears to be kicking ass lol but green house grow is the documented grow with variety of veggies as well one feed every 2 weeks till harvest. from start to finish on any veggie or house plant she will be amazing
just like my flowering girls my nutes which i hope to market can go from 150 ppm to 2000 ppm and stay ph constant 6.5 View attachment 3639686 View attachment 3639687 View attachment 3639688 View attachment 3639691 View attachment 3639693 View attachment 3639694 View attachment 3639701 View attachment 3639702
you can also attach you blumats to drip line they use them in large farms now
Organicgrow42
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Thought I'd post this here. Good stuff on composting and organic gardening
Do with it what you like, as long as it's dirty. Get it? Ahh...anyways here it is..
https://www.oakgov.com/msu/Pages/info_pub/soil_mgt.aspx
Do with it what you like, as long as it's dirty. Get it? Ahh...anyways here it is..
https://www.oakgov.com/msu/Pages/info_pub/soil_mgt.aspx
Organicgrow42
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Rrog
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Just an observation / opinion. Each plant and pot will technically have different watering needs. 1 sensor for all isn't optimal, considering how much farting around you'd have to do just to get that far. My opinion, anyway. I've thought about it and decided to control each plant with a serious Tensiometer, not a Blumat. I like the concept of the blumats, but they are crude tech. Runoff potential is not something I'm comfortable with.
Dr.J20
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Hyroot,
what's good man? Those buckets look sweet, self watering it looks like. i've tried these with tomatoes. anyway you could shoot me a link to when you started using these or what you're build is? I might get back into self-watering designs for my late summer runs and would love to get a look at your design! Hope all is going well on your end buddy! been too long!
and love
Joedank
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they are not that sofistiated ..lol... they are more like a blumat than you may know brother both just use pressure defecits . blumats never runoff for me ....
http://www.specmeters.com/soil-and-water/soil-moisture/tensiometers/
also 60-120$ each .... lol.... i am looking that way but a arduino based platform carries ... here is what i got so far better an cheaper than whats outhtere :
Garduino is a gardening Arduino. So far, Garduino:
-Waters my plants whenever their soil moisture level drops below a predefined value.
-Turns on grow lights, but only when it's dark out and only long enough to make the plants get 15 hours of total light (sunlight + supplemental light) daily.
-Alerts me if the temperature around the plants drops below 50 degrees.
This is the first grow-light and auto-water setup i know of that takes into account natural sunlight received and soil moisture level before turning on water / light.
all for about the cost of the one tensionmeter...here is the 13$ arduino tensionmeter in case you were wondering ...oh its a set of 5 for 13 $ ... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-Set-of-Tensiometer-Detection-Module-Soil-Moisture-Sensors-Module-For-Arduino-Robot-Intelligent-Car/1574549462.html
so i think that the blumats are a great way to start but robotic/cpu platforms are the best for new greenhouse controlls that require many systems inone modulle...
hyroot
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Hyroot,
what's good man? Those buckets look sweet, self watering it looks like. i've tried these with tomatoes. anyway you could shoot me a link to when you started using these or what you're build is? I might get back into self-watering designs for my late summer runs and would love to get a look at your design! Hope all is going well on your end buddy! been too long!
Just go to my thread in the led section.
hyroot
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Not really. Gg4 will eat what you give her but less is more I guess. With a built soil the plant eats what it wants so it doesn't really matter. Just as long as the soil is amended enough.
Organicgrow42
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What mix u running w her? Coots? Have u amended his amendments to cater to what she needs? I'm making up his mix when I go get some quality compost this weekend and just want to know all I can before I make it up
hyroot
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Sort of coots mix. It's
Equal parts peat moss, vermicompost, pumice
Per cubic foot
1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/4 cup neem cake
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup fish bone meal
1 cup oyster shell flour
4 cups basalt rock dust
Every 2 weeks light top dress of pureed malted barley seed and light top dress of ewc
Organicgrow42
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I was thinking since each plant is different ( @Rrog ) when building a soil, how would I be able to make a general mix for everything? Is it kind of like start w coots and then amend it to what you see?
He uses either peat or leaf mold, then his EWC and then aeration. Leaf mold> peat if he indeed uses leaf mold but the big thing is his castings. He runs a specific batch of compost then runs that through his worm bin. I would think since I'm far behind harvesting my castings, that I would probably show deficiencies since I don't have HIS high quality castings and or leaf mold.
I would think in my mind ok, deficiency...let me add x amount of whatever I see. If I had better castings and or leaf mold that may not be the case. Once I introduce better castings and or leaf mold, the mix would change and my original observations would be null correct?
So I guess what I'm saying is should I wait to mix it up until I have the higher quality castings and or leaf mold or just do it now and add the high quality castings and or leaf mold as a top dress at some point throughout the grow?
Too many factors always to consider in this line of work I feel!
He uses either peat or leaf mold, then his EWC and then aeration. Leaf mold> peat if he indeed uses leaf mold but the big thing is his castings. He runs a specific batch of compost then runs that through his worm bin. I would think since I'm far behind harvesting my castings, that I would probably show deficiencies since I don't have HIS high quality castings and or leaf mold.
I would think in my mind ok, deficiency...let me add x amount of whatever I see. If I had better castings and or leaf mold that may not be the case. Once I introduce better castings and or leaf mold, the mix would change and my original observations would be null correct?
So I guess what I'm saying is should I wait to mix it up until I have the higher quality castings and or leaf mold or just do it now and add the high quality castings and or leaf mold as a top dress at some point throughout the grow?
Too many factors always to consider in this line of work I feel!
Organicgrow42
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hyroot
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I think Rrog is just referring to the different water needs of each plant. A built soil can be a general mix for all plants. The plants will eat what and when they want. The only issue is if it's not enough amendments. As some strains are calcium hogs and some are potassium hogs and some are phos hogs.
Organicgrow42
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Makes sense! You run botanical too? I emailed jeremy at buildasoil on his use of botanical teas. It wasn't very clear if you use them from day 1 of veg through last day of flower so I'm getting some clarification.
Right now I run
kelp+aloe
coconut water
SST malted barley
just aloe ( not exactly in this order I think it's sst, aloe, coconut, aloe+kelp if I'm not mistaken)
Then repeat. I'd say I'm doing it about once a week but will be upping to twice a week with possibly 3 times a week after that. I only water 2-3 times a week, they usually go about 3 days before needing water again.
Right now I run
kelp+aloe
coconut water
SST malted barley
just aloe ( not exactly in this order I think it's sst, aloe, coconut, aloe+kelp if I'm not mistaken)
Then repeat. I'd say I'm doing it about once a week but will be upping to twice a week with possibly 3 times a week after that. I only water 2-3 times a week, they usually go about 3 days before needing water again.
hyroot
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No tea's of any kind anymore because I run sips - sub irrigated planters. So my plants get only plain water. The top dress of malted barley flour replaced sst's. Needs to be applied less often than sst's. And top dress ewc also. I only use aloe in foliars. I started using gro kashi as a topdress too.
Scotch089
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Yea, but I'm still on my first mix. No burn though.
I didnt get any burns my first round but after a few cycles my plants seems to have a bit of a nute burn.